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Giants better have a plan B

bluepepper : 1/12/2018 10:45 am
I know the question's been posed in other threads - what if we end up with none of Patricia, Shurmur or McDaniels? But I am not sure anyone has spelled out how plausible this scenario is. It's not some crazy one in a hundred bank shot. It's not even a matter of all 3 turning us down. It could happen if just one guy (Patricia) delays his decision a bit and then turns us down.

1) Giants and Lions both offer Patricia. He's unsure which to take and wants more time. Since he's number one on both lists they give him time.
2) Arizona offers Shurmur - even if he prefers NYG he can't pass and accepts
3) Indy offers McDaniels - again even if he prefers NYG he can't turn down a live offer and accepts
4) Patricia finally decides and takes the Lions job
5) Giants???




Mentioned it earlier today  
The_Boss : 1/12/2018 10:47 am : link

“Rapoport thinks Wilks is going to return to Carolina. If true, one team is going to be caught with their pants down as these 3 guys are the only men in the running for these 4 jobs. It would be a colossal embarrassment if Mara hired Gettleman quickly in part to get a jump on the HC search (as he mentioned) and in the end, that team left standing when the music stops is the NYG.”
They are totally  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/12/2018 10:48 am : link
negotiating right now with an agent.
I would have to assume  
MotownGIANTS : 1/12/2018 10:49 am : link
since we shut down interviews and told candidates they are not in the running we have a verbal agreement with someone in the postseason that is the most logical thing at this point.

After rushing and misfiring on Mc and TC, Eli fallout and complete FO overall no way they botch this by being caught with their pants down.
nah  
djm : 1/12/2018 10:49 am : link
they don't. The Giants will probably just stand around, maybe take a ski trip up to Vermont this weekend, sleep in late, dance around like nobody is watching and forget that about the HC openings for a while. Then all the HC candidates will go elsewhere and the Giants will just rehire Mcadoo.
Peppers is convinced  
Rocky369 : 1/12/2018 10:51 am : link
something is happening today
RE: Mentioned it earlier today  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/12/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13784533 The_Boss said:
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“Rapoport thinks Wilks is going to return to Carolina. If true, one team is going to be caught with their pants down as these 3 guys are the only men in the running for these 4 jobs. It would be a colossal embarrassment if Mara hired Gettleman quickly in part to get a jump on the HC search (as he mentioned) and in the end, that team left standing when the music stops is the NYG.”


The Colt's are going to be pants-less.

Look we are the most attractive job. Great draft pick, with an established QB, and attractive pieces on both sides of the ball. You could pick your own Qb, or stay with Eli.

Plan B might be Plan A  
mrvax : 1/12/2018 10:55 am : link
Which is to sign Belichick.
why would anyone think we don't have a plan B?  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2018 10:57 am : link
Gettelman doesn't strike me as an idiot who doesn't have a fall back plan. That said a deal is likely in place for someone that hasn't been eliminated yet.
RE: Plan B might be Plan A  
EricJ : 1/12/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 13784557 mrvax said:
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Which is to sign Belichick.


Matt... come on. Stop already
RE: RE: Plan B might be Plan A  
mrvax : 1/12/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 13784560 EricJ said:
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In comment 13784557 mrvax said:


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Which is to sign Belichick.



Matt... come on. Stop already



But but but Bob Kratch stakes his life on it.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2018 11:03 am : link
No worries, Slade says Belichick is the guy. ;)
I am sorry  
TrueBlue56 : 1/12/2018 11:03 am : link
I must have missed the reports that everyone we interviewed turned us down or already accepted agreements with other teams.

NFL teams are not stupid and especially not the giants!! Everyone knows the process and the the time constraints.

The giants already made their decision and they are probably working out details as some of you post this garbage!!

This is all I see and hear!! The giants aren't attractive to potential coaches. We are a mess, blah blah blah
Plan B = $  
RetroJint : 1/12/2018 11:05 am : link
Blow their asses out of the water with compensation . There is no salary cap covering coaches . Hedging , being reactive , going on bi-polar starvation followed by binging has become the “Giant way.” If Gettleman has his guy don’t let him get away .
Yawn  
Rflairr : 1/12/2018 11:05 am : link
They’ll get which ever one they want. None of them are taking those jobs over the Giants job
I thought the Giants job was coveted  
Arkbach : 1/12/2018 11:06 am : link
I guess all the bloggers believed the hype that everyone wanted the Giants job.
Coach  
Pete44 : 1/12/2018 11:12 am : link
You would have to hope that the Giants have a commitment and that is why they have shut things down and are not worried about a plan B. They could be negotiating with all 3 and seeing what happens.

As for whether the Giants job is attractive or not is up for debate, but I default to job security. If a coach does a good job and represents the organization well, the Giants will give that guy every opportunity to coach the team for 10 years, even if he goes 7-9 for 2 years straight. You can't say that about the other teams. If you add in that there is talent on this team and the #2 pick, the job is not unattractive.
I don't think the Giants  
bluepepper : 1/12/2018 11:17 am : link
are blithering idiots but they've been caught with their pants down before. George Young 1996 draft - Pick 5 and only 4 guys on his list. Also 1993 coaching search ended up being a wing-it job. And Reese in the 2016 with the Tunsil/Floyd/Apple situation doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

I don't get this notion that there is no Plan B.  
Matt M. : 1/12/2018 11:24 am : link
They've interviewed a number of candidates already. That amounts to Plan A, B, C, etc. Frankly, if Spags is their backup, then they may as well have none. I would have no confidence in the health of the franchise.
Man...  
Chris in Philly : 1/12/2018 11:26 am : link
some of you guys worry too much...
RE: Man...  
Matt M. : 1/12/2018 11:29 am : link
In comment 13784598 Chris in Philly said:
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some of you guys worry too much...
You mean you don't worry that every single coach in the NFL and college will be spoken for by the time we make a decision?
RE: I don't think the Giants  
YAJ2112 : 1/12/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 13784586 bluepepper said:
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are blithering idiots but they've been caught with their pants down before. George Young 1996 draft - Pick 5 and only 4 guys on his list. Also 1993 coaching search ended up being a wing-it job. And Reese in the 2016 with the Tunsil/Floyd/Apple situation doesn't exactly inspire confidence.


Are George Young or Reese still here?
RE: ...  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/12/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 13784570 Eric from BBI said:
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No worries, Slade says Belichick is the guy. ;)


Golf clap.
Are you guys getting stupider?  
Joey in VA : 1/12/2018 11:38 am : link
No, an NFL franchise run by educated, hard working professionals who have brought us to 5 Super Bowls have no contingencies in place for anything. It's almost like some of you have no perspective on anything and worry just to worry.
RE: I don't think the Giants  
TrueBlue56 : 1/12/2018 11:44 am : link
In comment 13784586 bluepepper said:
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are blithering idiots but they've been caught with their pants down before. George Young 1996 draft - Pick 5 and only 4 guys on his list. Also 1993 coaching search ended up being a wing-it job. And Reese in the 2016 with the Tunsil/Floyd/Apple situation doesn't exactly inspire confidence.


Right because George young and Reese are still here. Scream and holler all you want when the speculated top 3 (shurmur, Patricia and McDaniels) take jobs elsewhere.
RE: I thought the Giants job was coveted  
GoDeep13 : 1/12/2018 11:48 am : link
In comment 13784576 Arkbach said:
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I guess all the bloggers believed the hype that everyone wanted the Giants job.
I think there are a number of factors bogging this job down. 1. The Eli Manning/QB situation. The increasing involvement of Ownership. The giant media market that is NY where every difficult move that has to be made in the coming offseason will be under the strongest microscope in football.

Lots of coaches wouldn’t want to deal with that.
RE: I don't think the Giants  
jvm52106 : 1/12/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 13784586 bluepepper said:
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are blithering idiots but they've been caught with their pants down before. George Young 1996 draft - Pick 5 and only 4 guys on his list. Also 1993 coaching search ended up being a wing-it job. And Reese in the 2016 with the Tunsil/Floyd/Apple situation doesn't exactly inspire confidence.


THe last one was not being caught with pants down it was just stupid handling of the draft (and not just those examples) under Reese.
RE: Are you guys getting stupider?  
jvm52106 : 1/12/2018 11:54 am : link
In comment 13784626 Joey in VA said:
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No, an NFL franchise run by educated, hard working professionals who have brought us to 5 Super Bowls have no contingencies in place for anything. It's almost like some of you have no perspective on anything and worry just to worry.

Second time today I agree completely with you. It is pretty funny. For those freaking out, why are you? All the teams mentioned are looking at the same guys, thus nobody can actually be signed (wink wink) before hand. Unless you think the others are negotiating with agents but the Giants are just waiting for the candidates current teams to play their final games before negotiating....
George Young is a borderline HOF'er  
bluepepper : 1/12/2018 11:59 am : link
the point is - if he can be caught flat-footed when thrown a twist then the current crew can be as well.
reading tea leaves  
JonC : 1/12/2018 12:01 pm : link
suggests they're actively negotiating with their choice.
RE: RE: Are you guys getting stupider?  
JonC : 1/12/2018 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13784653 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 13784626 Joey in VA said:


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No, an NFL franchise run by educated, hard working professionals who have brought us to 5 Super Bowls have no contingencies in place for anything. It's almost like some of you have no perspective on anything and worry just to worry.


Second time today I agree completely with you. It is pretty funny. For those freaking out, why are you? All the teams mentioned are looking at the same guys, thus nobody can actually be signed (wink wink) before hand. Unless you think the others are negotiating with agents but the Giants are just waiting for the candidates current teams to play their final games before negotiating....


Whiny bunch of hand-wringing washwomen.
I really hope that both the Pats  
allstarjim : 1/12/2018 12:05 pm : link
And Vikings lose this weekend if for no other reason we don't have to endure another week of hand-wringing threads about the head coaching situation.

Everyone...just be patient. When the Patriots lose, or after their Super Bowl, we will have our guy and everyone will know. Just be patient and relax.

Obviously I believe it will be one of the Patriots coordinators.
RE: RE: I thought the Giants job was coveted  
Ryan in Albany : 1/12/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13784646 GoDeep13 said:
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I guess all the bloggers believed the hype that everyone wanted the Giants job.

Then they're pussies and not wanted in NY.

I think there are a number of factors bogging this job down. 1. The Eli Manning/QB situation. The increasing involvement of Ownership. The giant media market that is NY where every difficult move that has to be made in the coming offseason will be under the strongest microscope in football.

Lots of coaches wouldn’t want to deal with that.
^^Then they're pussies and not wanted in NY.  
Ryan in Albany : 1/12/2018 12:08 pm : link
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RE: reading tea leaves  
Rocky369 : 1/12/2018 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13784659 JonC said:
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suggests they're actively negotiating with their choice.
legally?
Can’t wait  
bradshaw44 : 1/12/2018 12:16 pm : link
Until they announce Cowher.
What would be illegal about  
JonC : 1/12/2018 12:18 pm : link
working with an agent on a deal?
RE: Can’t wait  
Peppers : 1/12/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13784676 bradshaw44 said:
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Until they announce Cowher.


LOL
RE: What would be illegal about  
mrvax : 1/12/2018 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13784677 JonC said:
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working with an agent on a deal?


I really don't think BB is going anywhere but I have to wonder what made Bob Kratch go over the top on this subject last week.
banks was on with Joe and evan  
micky : 1/12/2018 12:23 pm : link
now I'd expect him to shoot down any belichick rumors/dreams/etc. Well, he really didn't poo poo the idea that something is up there. He said, if he was the giants "they should stay the course as they are doing business now" (to para phrase) and being or waiting this out.

any of the two, McDaniels or Patricia, in NE would have to wait when done to hire. However, if there is truth to the turmoil in NE between BB, Kraft, etc..then something further could transpire as in BB leaving. it leaves risks in seeing if so..but..it seems most whom you'd expect to shoot this "pipe dream" down that are close to team ..aren't quite doing so. that leads to one believe some "smoke"...

just something isn't right and this isn't dying down..js
RE: Plan B might be Plan A  
ArcadeSlumlord : 1/12/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13784557 mrvax said:
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Which is to sign Belichick.


+1 f the rest.
RE: RE: Plan B might be Plan A  
djm : 1/12/2018 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13784560 EricJ said:
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In comment 13784557 mrvax said:


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Which is to sign Belichick.



Matt... come on. Stop already


Don't stop. Believe. Believe!
RE: Can’t wait  
Rflairr : 1/12/2018 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13784676 bradshaw44 said:
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Until they announce Cowher.


Dude I really wouldn’t be surprised
RE: ...  
Slade : 1/12/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13784570 Eric from BBI said:
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No worries, Slade says Belichick is the guy. ;)

So if you are wrong  
figgy2989 : 1/12/2018 12:50 pm : link
You will finally go away?
Some of you guys need to chill out.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2018 12:55 pm : link
Have a drink. Smoke some grass. Spend time with a woman.
RE: RE: What would be illegal about  
JonC : 1/12/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13784680 mrvax said:
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In comment 13784677 JonC said:


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working with an agent on a deal?



I really don't think BB is going anywhere but I have to wonder what made Bob Kratch go over the top on this subject last week.


I don't think it's BB.
Bill B  
Pete44 : 1/12/2018 12:59 pm : link
Even if Little Bill left NE, he would want full control and a lot of money, I just don't see the Giants giving him either.

If he left NE, I could see him taking a year off and resurfacing with a team like Dallas or the Redskins.
Gruden reset the HC market  
ATL_Giants : 1/12/2018 1:03 pm : link
I'm sure the coaches agents are climbing the ladder on salary.
Love Slade's  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/12/2018 1:08 pm : link
minimalist bomb posts (even if they are fantasy).

Salt and pepper on the stew that is BBI.
RE: RE: ...  
Greg from LI : 1/12/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13784720 Slade said:
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In comment 13784570 Eric from BBI said:


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No worries, Slade says Belichick is the guy. ;)




RE: So if you are wrong  
SJGiant : 1/12/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13784727 figgy2989 said:
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You will finally go away?


This is BBI Hold Em. If you put all your chips in and you lose, you have to leave the BBI table
RE: RE: Can’t wait  
bradshaw44 : 1/12/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13784719 Rflairr said:
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In comment 13784676 bradshaw44 said:


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Until they announce Cowher.



Dude I really wouldn’t be surprised


I do have a funny feeling it could be something out of left field like Cowher. They are being pretty shifty this go around.
RE: Bill B  
micky : 1/12/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13784741 Pete44 said:
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Even if Little Bill left NE, he would want full control and a lot of money, I just don't see the Giants giving him either.

If he left NE, I could see him taking a year off and resurfacing with a team like Dallas or the Redskins.


think about this..and is or may be a pipe dream..so be it..but if BB wants full control..break free from ne..come coach here..getts is up there in age..when getts says enough is enough..BB take over

RE: Bill B  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/12/2018 1:48 pm : link
micky said:
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think about this..and is or may be a pipe dream..so be it..but if BB wants full control..break free from ne..come coach here..getts is up there in age..when getts says enough is enough..BB take over
The age difference between Gettleman and Belichick is less than 14 months.
RE: I thought the Giants job was coveted  
Vanzetti : 1/12/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13784576 Arkbach said:
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I guess all the bloggers believed the hype that everyone wanted the Giants job.


$$$$ is coveted
RE: RE: ...  
FStubbs : 1/13/2018 7:36 am : link
In comment 13784720 Slade said:
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In comment 13784570 Eric from BBI said:


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No worries, Slade says Belichick is the guy. ;)




No, we aren't going back to Fassel.
RE: Gruden reset the HC market  
FStubbs : 1/13/2018 7:37 am : link
In comment 13784753 ATL_Giants said:
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I'm sure the coaches agents are climbing the ladder on salary.


None of the guys in question have Gruden's ring.
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