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Duggan makes good point regarding Lions and Patricia

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2018 10:04 am
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You don't need Patricia's degree in aeronautical engineering to do the math on the Giants' coaching search: The team is reportedly down to three finalists and there are three other teams with head coaching vacancies. That means it's possible that the Giants could be left without a chair when the music stops. So they need a backup plan.

On cue, Newsday reported on Friday that the Giants have an unidentified "sleeper" candidate. There are plenty of potential candidates for the doomsday scenario outlined above. It also would be a shrewd PR move for the Giants to leak out the existence of a sleeper candidate because if they struck out with the three reported favorites, everyone would view their hire as a backup plan. But now the Giants can claim whoever they hire was the sleeper candidate all along.

Patricia has been reported as the favorite for the Giants job by the New York Daily News and ESPN's Giants blog, but the Patriots defensive coordinator is still considered the favorite for the Lions by Detroit outlets.

The tell that the Lions still believe they have a shot at Patricia is that they haven't moved onto their other top candidate, Texans defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel. Vrabel, who is also a finalist for the Colts' opening, is eligible to be hired now. If the Lions get word that Patricia is headed to the Giants, they'll pull the trigger on hiring Vrabel. Until that happens, they clearly believe they're still in the running for Patricia.


The weird thing about all of this is that BOTH the Lions and Giants are acting a bit like they may have their candidate already (or in negotiations with him). But although some on BBI poo-poo the idea of the Giants getting screwed with none of their top three candidates coming here, I think we have to consider this as a real possibility. This could be like 1993 all over again.
Everything you need to know for Day 13 of the Giants' coaching search: A sleeper candidate? - ( New Window )
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Why havent  
TommyWiseau : 1/14/2018 1:25 am : link
We interviewed Vrabel?
RE: Why havent  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2018 1:29 am : link
In comment 13786785 TommyWiseau said:
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We interviewed Vrabel?


Two years as a position coach
one year as a defensive coordinator in which his defense was ranked 32nd in points allowed and 20th in total yardage allowed.

Incredibly inexperienced and underqualified.
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Gatorade Dunk : 1/14/2018 8:34 am : link
In comment 13785810 Eric from BBI said:
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What makes me think the Giants may already have their man is the fact that they have publicly already written off Wilks. But if Patricia is coming here, then why is Detroit not interviewing anyone else?

Again, same with Shurmur in Arizona and McDaniels in Indy.

Right now, it appears someone is going to get burned.

It could also be as simple as the interview window for active playoff teams has closed until the week after the conference championship games or until their teams lose.

Jim Schwartz, George Edwards, Frank Reich and/or John DiFilippo (and others) could be candidates for any of the vacancies. Just because teams appear to be done interviewing doesn't mean that they actually are.
As an incoming HC with interest  
mdc1 : 1/14/2018 8:37 am : link
my first question would 1) what are your plans with Eli manning and are you drafting his replacement? 2) if Eli does not perform well in camp am I required to start him

This is important because it indicates willingness or non-willingness to have Eli as their real boss. If that individual accepts Eli with no draft implies that it could get choppy and a longer runway is needed to really turn things around. Important because the incompetence of the owners and staff in putting a guy without experience into a difficult job and then tossing them to the wolves does look good, nor does the handling of the previous coach and then promptly dumping millions on defensive position upgrades. This view is a complete reversal of the claims of the Giants franchise as one that is coveted.
My opinion is completely biased being a Giants fan.  
blueblood : 1/14/2018 9:14 am : link
However I simply dont see the Lions as a better choice than the Giants for a head coaching job.

RE: Honestly - if a potential coaching candidate  
montanagiant : 1/14/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13785688 gidiefor said:
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is spooked by the fans and the media in a particular market, they are not the right candidate for that market, no matter how high they are ranked

100% correct. I mean seriously do we really want an HC who is scared of the media and the scrutiny of the NYC area? That screams to me someone who lacks confidence and why would we want that person to coach the Giants?

I also disagree with the idea we are not a desirable spot because we fired 2 HC's in 3 years. Where the mistake was made was not firing Reese at the same time as TC which allowed him to pick McAdoo who was obviously in over his head. Who would the hell look at the disastrous season we just had AND NOT think McAdoo and Reese needed to go? That does not make us unstable that makes us proactive in righting a wrong and if any HC candidate does not see it that way is either stupid or lacks the confidence needed to be a HC
There is a good chance the Giants and Lions already have their guy.  
Captplanet : 1/14/2018 11:05 am : link
When Crennel(Cleveland) and Weis(Notre Dame) left the Pats in 2005 they did not announce their hirings until after the Conference championship game. Belechek does not like anything interfering with his process, so I'm sure a stipulation to the Pats giving permission to speak with their assistants, teams may have had to agree to not announce any contracts or hires, until a specific date.


Weis and Crennel leave Pats - ( New Window )
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Andy in Boston : 1/14/2018 11:34 am : link
In comment 13785784 Eric from BBI said:
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In terms of how the Giants are perceived, keep this in mind:

In the past few years, they have fired:

- One GM.
- One Director of College Scouting.
- Two head coaches.
- A bunch of assistant coaches.


And the colts and Lions do?

This organization doesn't reek of stability right now.
RE: If the Giants have to circle back  
PatersonPlank : 1/14/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13785811 AnnapolisMike said:
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It will be to Spags, not Wilks. The organization likes him, He has past experience as a HC (any experience is good experience). I think the fact that Spags has not been hired elsewhere indicates the Giants still want him as a coordinator at the least.

I don't think they will force him on someone, but if you are being honest, he is one of the top available DC's.


We could end up with Spags by default
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