in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
Sure. He only lost the game on the last play of the game. You keep believing that.
Show me a playoff game where Eli Manning played like Ryan did today. He played against a crappy Defensive backfield and a backup QB and LOST
Quinn: What do want to run Sark?
Sark: Im thinking that delay undernand pitch we ran back in in OTAs...
Quinn: Oh, yeah! I remember that. Did it ever work?
Sark: I think so...
Quinn: Good enough. Lets run it...
in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
Matt Ryan is treated with kids gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the it factor yet no one says shit about him.
If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.
on 1st & goal. Also still wondering why Schwartz didnt warrant an interview . Philadelphia has played great defense this season , working in new DBs .
The first of 3 dumb play calls. But that shovel pass was dumb but add a rollout with one option on a 4th down play near the EZ and those three play calls were spectacular in its stupidity
fun with you guys who make everything about Eli. Hopefully when get a new QB you won't be so defensive about him that you have to trash every friggin QB in the league when his team loses a playoff game.
fun with you guys who make everything about Eli. Hopefully when get a new QB you won't be so defensive about him that you have to trash every friggin QB in the league when his team loses a playoff game.
In this corner of the Internet, coming up short to the Eagles is different that just coming up short.
who get paid millions off dollars don't understand how to manage the clock. First play when it was first and goal HAS to be a run! Eagles would then have no time OR no timeouts and you likely are closer to the end zone for your three attempts to win the game.
in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
Matt Ryan is treated with kids gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the it factor yet no one says shit about him.
If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.
Completely disagree and think either will beat the Eagles next week. Minny's D will smother Foles and his O. Kennum won't have to do much but position them for a few FGs.
Brees and his O will score plenty on the Eagles secondary, and their D will limit Foles as well.
Eagles going down at home next week will be a great ending to the NFC year.
Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.
LMAO...Talk about a swing and a miss, he was in one last year. You know the one where our Receivers dropped multiple passes at least two of them for TD's?
No I'm referring to the horrible job the Giants generally have done at managing their roster. It sucks and it's certainly not a source of pride.
Why is it that they can't even keep a roster together long enough to be in the playoffs consistently during their success cycles.. it's really strange.
in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today
Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina
in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today
Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina
05 first playoff game and the defense gave up like 250 yards rushing
06 Eli had a way better game than Ryan today
08 Elis number one receiver was Dominic Hixon, not Julio Jones
I think this was supposed to go to #80 Toilolo. He engages the DE, then starts to break upfield. However, #53 Bradham comes flying in and blows Toilolo up.
It also looks like the center and left guard released and headed up field.
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
For a guy with the nickname Ice, he's developing a track record
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!
Being in a position to compete is just a cocktease if you have a QB incapable of winning a big game.
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce
I'm not arguing Eli's merits. He was able to accomplish something that no other qb has to date. But, how long are we all willing to live in the past? Is it such a bad thing to take a shot at a top young qb and try to duplicate the success of Eli and Co from 2005-2012? I'd rather say goodbye to him a year early then a year too late. This is a franchise that doesn't have an opportunity to draft top young qbs too often. And, they haven't exactly flopped on their last two true first round qb selections/acquisitions ( it may be selective, but I don't count Dave Brown in that, he was- for all intents and purposes- a second round selection to me).
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
Sure. He only lost the game on the last play of the game. You keep believing that.
Show me a playoff game where Eli Manning played like Ryan did today. He played against a crappy Defensive backfield and a backup QB and LOST
Sark: Im thinking that delay undernand pitch we ran back in in OTAs...
Quinn: Oh, yeah! I remember that. Did it ever work?
Sark: I think so...
Quinn: Good enough. Lets run it...
Matt Ryan is treated with kids gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the it factor yet no one says shit about him.
If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.
The first of 3 dumb play calls. But that shovel pass was dumb but add a rollout with one option on a 4th down play near the EZ and those three play calls were spectacular in its stupidity
That awful place soon
Who the f-ck would even consider that as an option???
I turned it after that dumb call! Wasting a down when its win or go home 🤦🏾♂️
In this corner of the Internet, coming up short to the Eagles is different that just coming up short.
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
Matt Ryan is treated with kids gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the it factor yet no one says shit about him.
If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.
181 total yards of Offense...Ryan is the shizznit
Agreed. I think the refs missed it. Plain as day.
Still a lot smarter then Mara
Schwartz s defense came up big
I don't think that record will ever be broken.
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Saints or Vikes will finish the Eagles.
Neither of those two teams is winning in Philly.
Completely disagree and think either will beat the Eagles next week. Minny's D will smother Foles and his O. Kennum won't have to do much but position them for a few FGs.
Brees and his O will score plenty on the Eagles secondary, and their D will limit Foles as well.
Eagles going down at home next week will be a great ending to the NFC year.
he played in one last year
LMAO...Talk about a swing and a miss, he was in one last year. You know the one where our Receivers dropped multiple passes at least two of them for TD's?
its like your saying that proudly...go troll somewhere else..
AND F THE EAGLES
Incredible.
No I'm referring to the horrible job the Giants generally have done at managing their roster. It sucks and it's certainly not a source of pride.
Why is it that they can't even keep a roster together long enough to be in the playoffs consistently during their success cycles.. it's really strange.
I've said this to Les and now I'll say it to you...
Please try not to speak...
I know, right?
Last season was forever ago.
Dumb ass.
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.
I know, right?
Last season was forever ago.
Dumb ass.
Haha. Well I guess this season did seem like an eternity for Giants fans and it does seem like forever since they played GB.
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today
Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.
I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today
Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina
05 first playoff game and the defense gave up like 250 yards rushing
06 Eli had a way better game than Ryan today
08 Elis number one receiver was Dominic Hixon, not Julio Jones
It also looks like the center and left guard released and headed up field.
Only thing I can think of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=56ga0Znbwwk
Delayed TE screen? - ( New Window )
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!
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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.
Despite all of that Matty Ice comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldnt close the deal on a championship.
I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!
Being in a position to compete is just a cocktease if you have a QB incapable of winning a big game.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce
Yes indeed
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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.
Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.
The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce
I'm not arguing Eli's merits. He was able to accomplish something that no other qb has to date. But, how long are we all willing to live in the past? Is it such a bad thing to take a shot at a top young qb and try to duplicate the success of Eli and Co from 2005-2012? I'd rather say goodbye to him a year early then a year too late. This is a franchise that doesn't have an opportunity to draft top young qbs too often. And, they haven't exactly flopped on their last two true first round qb selections/acquisitions ( it may be selective, but I don't count Dave Brown in that, he was- for all intents and purposes- a second round selection to me).
Huge non-call on 4th and goal. If that was Eli to Beckham people would be blowing a gasket.