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RE: RE: lol knew someone would come  
montanagiant : 1/13/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13786486 rebel yell said:
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.


Sure. He only lost the game on the last play of the game. You keep believing that.

Show me a playoff game where Eli Manning played like Ryan did today. He played against a crappy Defensive backfield and a backup QB and LOST
Being a Dawgs Alum  
big canoe jeff : 1/13/2018 7:56 pm : link
We will win a championship recruiting off the carts
Imagine that dialogue....  
bw in dc : 1/13/2018 7:57 pm : link
Quinn: “What do want to run Sark?”
Sark: “I’m thinking that delay undernand pitch we ran back in in OTAs...”
Quinn: “Oh, yeah! I remember that. Did it ever work?”
Sark: “I think so...”
Quinn: “Good enough. Let’s run it...”
RE: lol knew someone would come  
WillVAB : 1/13/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13786480 bluepepper said:
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.


Matt Ryan is treated with kid’s gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the “it” factor yet no one says shit about him.

If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.
RE: They lose the game passing  
montanagiant : 1/13/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13786468 RetroJint said:
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on 1st & goal. Also still wondering why Schwartz didn’t warrant an interview . Philadelphia has played great defense this season , working in new DBs .

The first of 3 dumb play calls. But that shovel pass was dumb but add a rollout with one option on a 4th down play near the EZ and those three play calls were spectacular in its stupidity
Atlanta  
greek13 : 1/13/2018 7:59 pm : link
Is following Seattle into irrelevance .... hopefully we are leaving the
That awful place soon
just having  
bluepepper : 1/13/2018 8:00 pm : link
fun with you guys who make everything about Eli. Hopefully when get a new QB you won't be so defensive about him that you have to trash every friggin QB in the league when his team loses a playoff game.
I’d fire Quinn right now and start reaching out  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2018 8:01 pm : link
to Patricia, Wilks and co immediately. They simply aren’t winning with this guy.
RE: That underhand pitch call...  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/13/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13786471 bw in dc said:
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on second and goal was just retarded.

Who the f-ck would even consider that as an option???

I turned it after that dumb call! Wasting a down when it’s win or go home 🤦🏾‍♂️
RE: just having  
NoPeanutz : 1/13/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13786497 bluepepper said:
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fun with you guys who make everything about Eli. Hopefully when get a new QB you won't be so defensive about him that you have to trash every friggin QB in the league when his team loses a playoff game.

In this corner of the Internet, coming up short to the Eagles is different that just coming up short.
it is amazing how these coaches  
Chris L. : 1/13/2018 8:02 pm : link
who get paid millions off dollars don't understand how to manage the clock. First play when it was first and goal HAS to be a run! Eagles would then have no time OR no timeouts and you likely are closer to the end zone for your three attempts to win the game.
RE: RE: lol knew someone would come  
montanagiant : 1/13/2018 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13786493 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13786480 bluepepper said:


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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.



Matt Ryan is treated with kid’s gloves nationally for some reason. He played like dog shit today in an optimal spot to go off. This guy is the opposite of having the “it” factor yet no one says shit about him.

If Eli and the Giants just lost a playoff game vs Eagles trash secondary and backup QB Eli and the Giants would be getting skewered in the media and on this board.

181 total yards of Offense...Ryan is the shizznit
QUINN  
Simms : 1/13/2018 8:03 pm : link
Coached one of the worse SB losses in history, and today he was suspect too.
RE: How in the world isn’t that a holding call on philly  
BigBlueinDE : 1/13/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13786463 dpinzow said:
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On that 4th and goal? Julio got assaulted


Agreed. I think the refs missed it. Plain as day.
Living in GA could care less about Falcons  
big canoe jeff : 1/13/2018 8:03 pm : link
And Arthur can devote his time to fixing the roof and his soccer team
Still a lot smarter then Mara
Was Ryan bad  
joeinpa : 1/13/2018 8:04 pm : link
Or was Eagle defense that good.

Schwartz s defense came up big
Ryan's pass went  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:10 pm : link
through Jones' hands..catchable. Sark needs to start drinking again to be an effective OC.. I kid I kid.
I was pissed when  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:12 pm : link
the Eagles drafted Brandon Graham one pick ahead of JPP..then i was happy for a few years..that tackle Graham made on Freeman was critical.
...  
christian : 1/13/2018 8:20 pm : link
Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.
I think u would be more pissed  
big canoe jeff : 1/13/2018 8:22 pm : link
Passing on Gurley for Flowers does anybody know if R&R boys have found another job?
At least the Falcons got back to  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:26 pm : link
the playoffs. Unbelievably, the Giants have never gotten to the playoffs in the 5 years after they were in the Super Bowl..

I don't think that record will ever be broken.
Sorry  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:26 pm : link
forgot about 2098..
2008- I  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:27 pm : link
guess that season was traumatic for me.
RE: RE: Atlanta is useless.  
Eman11 : 1/13/2018 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13786451 FStubbs said:
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Saints or Vikes will finish the Eagles.



Neither of those two teams is winning in Philly.


Completely disagree and think either will beat the Eagles next week. Minny's D will smother Foles and his O. Kennum won't have to do much but position them for a few FGs.

Brees and his O will score plenty on the Eagles secondary, and their D will limit Foles as well.

Eagles going down at home next week will be a great ending to the NFC year.
Philly still sucks!  
Fishmanjim57 : 1/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
They are so over rated! I hope they lose big time next week!
missing the playoffs  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
4 times out of 5 after being in the SB is still going to be hard to match.
Solace will be  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
gained at some point in these playoffs for Eagles haters.
RE: ...  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13786517 christian said:
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.


he played in one last year
RE: ...  
montanagiant : 1/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13786517 christian said:
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.

LMAO...Talk about a swing and a miss, he was in one last year. You know the one where our Receivers dropped multiple passes at least two of them for TD's?
RE: missing the playoffs  
bLiTz 2k : 1/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13786526 DG said:
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4 times out of 5 after being in the SB is still going to be hard to match.


it’s like your saying that proudly...go troll somewhere else..

AND F THE EAGLES
Eagles and Giants are in 2 completely different places.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
Eagles winning a playoff game with a backup QB. Giants could barely win a game all season with their starting QB, even before the injuries.

Incredible.
Nice  
DG : 1/13/2018 8:33 pm : link
try..

No I'm referring to the horrible job the Giants generally have done at managing their roster. It sucks and it's certainly not a source of pride.

Why is it that they can't even keep a roster together long enough to be in the playoffs consistently during their success cycles.. it's really strange.
RE: ...  
JCin332 : 1/13/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13786517 christian said:
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.


I've said this to Les and now I'll say it to you...

Please try not to speak...
RE: ...  
B in ALB : 1/13/2018 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13786517 christian said:
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.


I know, right?

Last season was forever ago.

Dumb ass.
RE: RE: ...  
Eman11 : 1/13/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13786536 B in ALB said:
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Manning hasn't played a bad playoff game in forever because he's not been to one in forever.



I know, right?

Last season was forever ago.

Dumb ass.


Haha. Well I guess this season did seem like an eternity for Giants fans and it does seem like forever since they played GB.
RE: RE: lol knew someone would come  
The_Boss : 1/13/2018 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13786483 montanagiant said:
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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.


I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today


Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina
Never send the Falcons to do a man's job.  
Boy Cord : 1/13/2018 9:21 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: lol knew someone would come  
WillVAB : 1/13/2018 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13786571 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13786483 montanagiant said:


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In comment 13786480 bluepepper said:


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in with the Eli crap here. Eli never effin makes the playoffs but let's get on Matt Ryan because his team lost a playoff game where Julio Jones fell down on 4th down. OK.


I'd love you to show me a Playoff game where Eli played like Ryan did today



Both playoff games vs Philly
His first playoff game vs Carolina


05 — first playoff game and the defense gave up like 250 yards rushing
06 — Eli had a way better game than Ryan today
08 — Eli’s number one receiver was Dominic Hixon, not Julio Jones
How does a Giants fan not know  
Mr. Bungle : 1/13/2018 9:39 pm : link
that the Giants were in the playoffs last year?
As for the 4th and Goal  
MBavaro : 1/13/2018 9:55 pm : link
I think this was supposed to go to #80 Toilolo. He engages the DE, then starts to break upfield. However, #53 Bradham comes flying in and blows Toilolo up.

It also looks like the center and left guard released and headed up field.

Only thing I can think of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=56ga0Znbwwk
Delayed TE screen? - ( New Window )
Winner of  
spike : 1/13/2018 10:06 pm : link
Vikings-Saints will be the NFC representative at the Super Bowl vs Pats
I Love  
lax counsel : 1/13/2018 10:09 pm : link
Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.
RE: I Love  
WillVAB : 1/13/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13786667 lax counsel said:
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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.


Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.

Despite all of that “Matty Ice” comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldn’t close the deal on a championship.
For a guy with the nickname Ice, he's developing a track record  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2018 10:52 pm : link
Of playoff game ineptitude. The one year he looked like a star was a success everybody happily gave to their offensive coordinator.
RE: RE: I Love  
lax counsel : 1/13/2018 11:05 pm : link
In comment 13786702 WillVAB said:
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In comment 13786667 lax counsel said:


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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.



Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.

Despite all of that “Matty Ice” comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldn’t close the deal on a championship.


I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!
RE: RE: RE: I Love  
WillVAB : 1/13/2018 11:11 pm : link
In comment 13786721 lax counsel said:
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In comment 13786702 WillVAB said:


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In comment 13786667 lax counsel said:


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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.



Look at the resources committed to the Falcons offense in terms of draft picks, trades, and FA acquisitions since Ryan was selected.

Despite all of that “Matty Ice” comes up small in the biggest spots. Last year he ran like God and still couldn’t close the deal on a championship.



I understand the criticism of Ryan. At least his team is in a position to compete. When was the last time the Giants were in that position? Losing 38-13 in Green Bay is not being competitive. Why not stat over? The pick is there, there are two potential qbs there, go for it!


“Being in a position to compete” is just a cocktease if you have a QB incapable of winning a big game.
RE: I Love  
montanagiant : 1/14/2018 12:34 am : link
In comment 13786667 lax counsel said:
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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.

When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce
RE: Winner of  
montanagiant : 1/14/2018 12:35 am : link
In comment 13786663 spike said:
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Vikings-Saints will be the NFC representative at the Super Bowl vs Pats

Yes indeed
RE: RE: I Love  
lax counsel : 1/14/2018 12:45 am : link
In comment 13786754 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13786667 lax counsel said:


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Eli as much as the next Giants fan. He's the best qb in Giants history. But for people to be on here pointing out Ryan's flaws while ignoring Eli's is just putting on rose colored glasses. The Giants haven't had a serious chance to compete for the NFC championship since 2012. Think about that. They haven't even been to the division round in 6 season. That's an eternity and a half in the NFL. I understand Eli isn't the entire reason for that. But he certiantly hasn't risen above his circumstances.

Case in point, the Giants have a 10 point lead on the Jets a couple of season ago. Coughlin elects to go for it on 4th down and trust his qb over his D. His qb proceeds to panic and throw an INT. Does a Brady or Brees do that, I don't know? To me it's just evidence that Eli hasn't risen above his circumstances over the past several seasons, despite putting up some nice numbers.

The crowd that wants to pass in a qb this year and go with Eli the next two years seems to be just delaying the inevitable and acquiescencing to more mediocre or worse football. That's why I'm all in on drafting one of the top 2 qbs and going for a rebuild. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But we're not being honest with ourselves if we think this is a team that's a piece or two away from a sb run.


When Ryan takes his team in the final 2 mins on his shoulders and wins two Super Bowls doing it against two of the best teams in the history of the NFL you can tell me all about it until then the Ryan argument is a complete fucking farce


I'm not arguing Eli's merits. He was able to accomplish something that no other qb has to date. But, how long are we all willing to live in the past? Is it such a bad thing to take a shot at a top young qb and try to duplicate the success of Eli and Co from 2005-2012? I'd rather say goodbye to him a year early then a year too late. This is a franchise that doesn't have an opportunity to draft top young qbs too often. And, they haven't exactly flopped on their last two true first round qb selections/acquisitions ( it may be selective, but I don't count Dave Brown in that, he was- for all intents and purposes- a second round selection to me).
2 points  
bc4life : 1/14/2018 8:51 am : link
Foles not really a backup.

Huge non-call on 4th and goal. If that was Eli to Beckham people would be blowing a gasket.
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