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Ok so hes a great Defensive coach..

Shockwave : 1/13/2018 4:02 pm
And obviously has right skills and leadership to be a head coach. But what if his pick as defense coach sucks.

Same thing could happen as with Macadoop
Who  
darren in pdx : 1/13/2018 4:03 pm : link
are we talking about?
Great thread  
B in ALB : 1/13/2018 4:04 pm : link
Congratulations.
Now apply this logic to any HC  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2018 4:12 pm : link
try it, and post a thread for each guy we interviewed.
RE: Great thread  
OBJRoyal : 1/13/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13786053 B in ALB said:
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Congratulations.


Slow hand clap.....
McAdoo was not a good coach  
superspynyg : 1/13/2018 4:28 pm : link
He was qb coach for Rodgers who did not need a qb coach. He was never OC for GB.

He was OC for one year and we were in the top 10. Not enough to evaluate his ability to be a HC IMHO. We panicked when Eagles were interested in him.
RE: McAdoo was not a good coach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13786072 superspynyg said:
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He was qb coach for Rodgers who did not need a qb coach. He was never OC for GB.

He was OC for one year and we were in the top 10. Not enough to evaluate his ability to be a HC IMHO. We panicked when Eagles were interested in him.


Two years.
Giants made a mistake with Mack  
Alwaysblue22 : 1/13/2018 11:38 pm : link
He did not have the total amount of experience needed and did not have a track record nearly as impressive as the three finalist we are hearing about. I don't know why Mara moved so fast to promote McAdoo. He should have allowed the Eagles to hire him, and then they would be the screwed up team in our division..or maybe Mack would have thrived with Carson Wentz.....who knows? But the front office is taking a different approach THIS TIME because we have a GM with balls THIS TIME. From what I read, Reese was against the hire of Mack.but did not press the issue in order to keep Mara happy. Now Mara will let DG make the football decision among the candidates which was obviously a condition that DG wanted before he accepted the GM job.
Big Mac and Patricia are two completely different personalities  
PatersonPlank : 1/14/2018 12:09 am : link
Plus Patricia has been much more successful. Its always a risk promoting a coordinator, some work (like McVay) some don't (like Mac), but this guys at least has the success. Big Mac was an awful hire, but we shouldn't let that get in the way of finding the next McVay.
RE: Big Mac and Patricia are two completely different personalities  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 1/14/2018 3:37 am : link
In comment 13786747 PatersonPlank said:
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Plus Patricia has been much more successful. Its always a risk promoting a coordinator, some work (like McVay) some don't (like Mac), but this guys at least has the success. Big Mac was an awful hire, but we shouldn't let that get in the way of finding the next McVay.


Mac was never a coordinator.
RE: Big Mac and Patricia are two completely different personalities  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 1/14/2018 3:50 am : link
In comment 13786747 PatersonPlank said:
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Plus Patricia has been much more successful. Its always a risk promoting a coordinator, some work (like McVay) some don't (like Mac), but this guys at least has the success. Big Mac was an awful hire, but we shouldn't let that get in the way of finding the next McVay.


Mac was never a coordinator.
Dont Need a Coordinator  
Samiam : 1/14/2018 5:51 am : link
At least now. Heaf Coach and coordinators are different jobs -,different skills are required. Lots of great coordinators suck at being head coaches. Look up Bill Arnsbarger in Giants history. And personally I think McAdoos biggest mistake was calling the plays. He needed to spend time managing the whole team. Im hoping whoever they hire does a better job of managing the coaching staff and the players.
I keep hearing a similar argument from  
joeinpa : 1/14/2018 6:55 am : link
Those opposed to taking a quarterback in the first round:

"There are no guarantees, what if you pick Ryan Leaf"

What is remarkable to me is they never seem to consider there have been "Ryan Leafs" picked at every position at the top of the draft.

You make the move you feel is the best for your team and hope you re correct.

Because there are no guarantees.

I suppose the OP is referring to Patricia. Ok, are you suggesting they don t select this success defensive coach because he might pick a bad coaching staff?

Which candidates out there do you not share this concern about.
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Brown Recluse : 1/14/2018 8:03 am : link
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Brown Recluse : 1/14/2018 8:05 am : link
RE: Giants made a mistake with Mack  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/14/2018 8:11 am : link
In comment 13786740 Alwaysblue22 said:
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He did not have the total amount of experience needed and did not have a track record nearly as impressive as the three finalist we are hearing about. I don't know why Mara moved so fast to promote McAdoo. He should have allowed the Eagles to hire him, and then they would be the screwed up team in our division..or maybe Mack would have thrived with Carson Wentz.....who knows? But the front office is taking a different approach THIS TIME because we have a GM with balls THIS TIME. From what I read, Reese was against the hire of Mack.but did not press the issue in order to keep Mara happy. Now Mara will let DG make the football decision among the candidates which was obviously a condition that DG wanted before he accepted the GM job.

Who is "Mack"? And please use line breaks. There are probably decent points within your unreadable walls of text.
RE: RE: Big Mac and Patricia are two completely different personalities  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/14/2018 8:13 am : link
In comment 13786818 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:
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In comment 13786747 PatersonPlank said:


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Plus Patricia has been much more successful. Its always a risk promoting a coordinator, some work (like McVay) some don't (like Mac), but this guys at least has the success. Big Mac was an awful hire, but we shouldn't let that get in the way of finding the next McVay.



Mac was never a coordinator.

Were you asleep through 2014-15 when he was the Giants' OC? Obviously, the context is about hiring a HC, so McAdoo absolutely was a coordinator prior to that.
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