Matt Ryan is the new Peyton Manning

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In comment 13786769 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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?? Didn't get it.

But he's also not close to Manning in anything else. It's was more shocking when Peyton failed because he was so excellent in the regular season. Ryan's been good but not special, IMO.

He's a guy that had one great year and still blew it in the Super Bowl in the greatest collapse in Super Bowl history. He's nothing to write home about.

Maybe we should just call him Matt.

That said, I don't get the Peyton comparison fully.

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring. He's frustrating at times, but good enough to get it done. We should consider ourselves lucky if the QB we pick at #2 is as good as Ryan.

and a thing for shitty pizza?

He is touted by the football media as the Second Coming. Has been for a while. Especially after last year.

No one is Manning. Obviously. The point I was trying to make is that he is bad in the playoffs.

In comment 13786777 j_rud said:

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and a thing for shitty pizza?

Good one. Well played.

It was actually pretty pedestrian. I think people were thinking they would see the Matt Ryan of last year once the playoffs rolled around, but it didn't happen that way.

In comment 13786778 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:

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He is touted by the football media as the Second Coming. Has been for a while.

I'm not sure why you think this. He's in the top 10 of active QBs, sure but nobody thinks of matt ryan as the second coming of anything. Are you only watching TV from Atlanta?

In comment 13786772 BestFeature said:

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He's a guy that had one great year and still blew it in the Super Bowl in the greatest collapse in Super Bowl history. He's nothing to write home about.

lol c'mon man, that was an entire team collapse. Can't put that on just him.

Good enough to get to a Super Bowl. But now he's going to have that can't-win-the-big-one label following him around.

Is overrated like Ben is in Pittsburgh.

All talent is great in the offense yet why make it a struggle? He had several dropped picks today. He stunk.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring. He's frustrating at times, but good enough to get it done. We should consider ourselves lucky if the QB we pick at #2 is as good as Ryan.

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure.

But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl,

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring.

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring. He's frustrating at times, but good enough to get it done. We should consider ourselves lucky if the QB we pick at #2 is as good as Ryan.

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure.

But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring. He's frustrating at times, but good enough to get it done. We should consider ourselves lucky if the QB we pick at #2 is as good as Ryan.

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl, Matt Ryan's got himself a ring. He's frustrating at times, but good enough to get it done. We should consider ourselves lucky if the QB we pick at #2 is as good as Ryan.

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl,

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

In comment 13786776 bceagle05 said:

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If Kyle Shanahan calls three run plays and kicks a FG at the end of last year's Super Bowl,

Shit, they could have won running the same plays but just waiting until the play clock hit 3 before snapping the ball.

Payton won SB’s.

BBI just went apeshit..

In comment 13786784 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13786778 TheGhostofBlueGuy said: Quote: He is touted by the football media as the Second Coming. Has been for a while. I'm not sure why you think this. He's in the top 10 of active QBs, sure but nobody thinks of matt ryan as the second coming of anything. Are you only watching TV from Atlanta?

Think about the common media (and sometimes player) perception of Matt Ryan vs Eli.

When you used Peyton Manning as a standard for something bad.

Really, Peyton Manning!

In comment 13786777 j_rud said:

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and a thing for shitty pizza?

This. Best post on the thread

contact after 5 yards, and although Jones slips - db still gets on top of him before ball is thrown.

Ton of drops from his WRs including 3 by Jones. He can only do so much.
Oline did not protect him well.
Igrant you he is not top 2-3 Qb but come on. He made plays when things broke down. He gave them a chance.

much he screwed up the BBI space and time continuum.

Manning when it comes to big moments in big games. And Quinn also come up small. Terrible play calling at crunch time -- again.

And a Super Bowl MVP.

he has led an epic comeback win in the AFC Title game over Pats.

He’s won 2 other AFC Championships.

What are you talking about?

And Ryan cant touch Manning in the regular season either.

season, gags in big games and playoffs. Ask Mike Smith.

The whole game Philly had the seam locked down and were getting pressure. They never adjusted in the second half. The offensive gameplan was garbage.

Victor in CT said:

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season, gags in big games and playoffs. Ask Mike Smith.

How can Matt Ryan be a coach-killer? In his ten-year career, he has only played for two coaches. And Mike Smith's demise was a function of two straight losing seasons and his own post-season f*ck-ups in prior years, not Ryan's.

If I could enter the playoffs with my choice of:
(a) Mike Smith and a random NFL QB; or
(b) Matt Ryan and a random NFL head coach
I take Ryan every day and twice in January.

As for the comparison to Peyton Manning, I think Ryan's career currrently looks more like Romo, McNabb, Bledsoe, Rivers, Palmer and a lot of other good quarterbacks who never got the signature win.

Is the one who decided to throw on 1st and goal with 1:30 mins left and then followed up with that idiotic inside pitch screen (How hard is it to understand that the D will be playing more bunched up with a short field near the EZ) and then the roll out with only one option on the 4th and 2 play.

In comment 13787345 montanagiant said:

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Is the one who decided to throw on 1st and goal with 1:30 mins left and then followed up with that idiotic inside pitch screen (How hard is it to understand that the D will be playing more bunched up with a short field near the EZ) and then the roll out with only one option on the 4th and 2 play.

Sarkisian should get half the blame. The other half of the blame should be Dan Quinn for hiring Sarkisian.

between Ryan and Manning are:

Both are right-handed.
Both are white.
Both played the majority of their home games indoors.

Ryan has a BA in QB play. Manning has a PhD.

It's embarrassing even comparing the two...

In comment 13786806 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:

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But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure.

Dude has the best RB and WR playing with him. But how many titles?

year in and year out had to go up against some top teams, often with QB's like Brady or Ben.

Matt ryan just lost to Nick Foles.

Any comparison is horseshit.

Ryan is trash.

In comment 13787499 Toth029 said:

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In comment 13786806 TheGhostofBlueGuy said: Quote: But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure. Dude has the best RB and WR playing with him. But how many titles?

You could say the same thing for Peyton Manning or Marino or Drew Brees for that matter.

Yardage and %?

In 10 seasons, he's only thrown over 30 TD's twice.....

In comment 13787529 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13787499 Toth029 said: Quote: In comment 13786806 TheGhostofBlueGuy said: Quote: But overrated he is not. HOFer, fer sure. Dude has the best RB and WR playing with him. But how many titles? You could say the same thing for Peyton Manning or Marino or Drew Brees for that matter.

When did those guys have THE top rated RB and WRV plus a top five rated defense (pts) backing him? He has no excuses. Once Peyton and Drew had defenses worth a shit they win titles. I wonder why? Ben has had the best supporting cast of any QB since he has entered the league.

Have you ever seen Peyton in his prime

Matt Ryan isn’t in the same galaxy as Peyton

I do not blame the loss on Ryan.

of that nonsense and ran the ball.

NO ONE is or will ever be as arrogant or annoying as peyton.
Notice all his "jokes" are at someone else.
"peyton manning is a choker" - to nationwide jingle

In comment 13786771 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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But he's also not close to Manning in anything else. It's was more shocking when Peyton failed because he was so excellent in the regular season. Ryan's been good but not special, IMO.

That's a good way of putting it(brain lock) and it's different from any playoff missteps Peyton's had. Peyton Manning's bad playoff games were the definition of "pressing"

He is just not as good a QB.

use Jones as bait, let FB or some TE be primary

Peyton was one of the all time great QB's in NFL history.

to P. Manning. He was light years better than Matt Ryan.