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FWIW: Mort tweet about Shurmur and Eli meeting last June

Defenderdawg : 1/14/2018 12:39 pm
Chris Mortensen (@mortreport)
1/14/18, 12:33 PM
@geoffschwartz Shurmur is solid with Eli Manning if there is a transition at some point. He attended Manning Passing Academy in June and got better acquainted w/ Eli and early glimpse at lot of college QBs who were there, including his son Kyle, the Vanderbilt QB.
Also earlier  
Defenderdawg : 1/14/2018 12:41 pm : link
Chris Mortensen (@mortreport)
1/14/18, 10:39 AM
No question Vikings OC Pat Shurmur checks a lot of boxes for Giants, as does Josh McDaniels. Shurmur has great pedigree, worked for Andy Reid, not too proud to grab a couple Chip Kelly concepts, has experienced demands of Mike Zimmer and never flinches with injuries/surprises.

Will Brinson (@WillBrinson)
1/14/18, 10:41 AM
Shurmur got a bad rap from time with the Browns - winning 9 games in 2 years looks a lot better in hindsight.
the andy reid coaching tree certainly seems to produce capable people  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2018 12:43 pm : link
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If we got Shurmur  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2018 12:45 pm : link
I'd be much more open about Darnold.
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arcarsenal : 1/14/2018 12:46 pm : link
Shurmur would be an excellent hire.

Make it happen.
He's always been my guy  
AcesUp : 1/14/2018 12:46 pm : link
No idea if he's truly head coaching material but the same can be said of all the candidates. He at least has prior experience to draw from and the offensive system upgrade from McAdoo to Shurmer would be more significant than any other upgrade we could make this offseason.
We don’t need to be making a hire  
Rflairr : 1/14/2018 12:47 pm : link
Based on How Eli Manning feels about the coach
If we end up with Shurmer so be it.  
j_rud : 1/14/2018 12:49 pm : link
The truth is none of us really know what's best. But I will say this: an entire offseason hearing the media talk about being spurned by hot commodities and Shurmer's time in Cleveland will border on unbearable. To say nothing of this boards resident mouth breathers.
RE: If we got Shurmur  
djm : 1/14/2018 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13787494 robbieballs2003 said:
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I'd be much more open about Darnold.


Me too. I'd be more open about any of the young qbs, especially darnold.
RE: We don’t need to be making a hire  
j_rud : 1/14/2018 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13787502 Rflairr said:
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Based on How Eli Manning feels about the coach


I don't think anyone would disagree, but no one is implying that. Pointing out familiarity as a positive in the event he's hired is quite different than stating it's the reason for the hire.
RE: We don’t need to be making a hire  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2018 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13787502 Rflairr said:
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Based on How Eli Manning feels about the coach


I don't think we have any reason to assume that's the primary motivation.
Who is running the defense  
DCPollaro : 1/14/2018 1:25 pm : link
Under Shurmur?.. Hopefully not spags. Anyone from Minnesota we can snag?
Shirker is the guy I want.  
Section331 : 1/14/2018 1:37 pm : link
Good OC and good with QB’s.
RE: Who is running the defense  
BleedBlue : 1/14/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13787582 DCPollaro said:
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Under Shurmur?.. Hopefully not spags. Anyone from Minnesota we can snag?


i think he would be VERY open to keeping spags and id puke. if its mcdaniels...he will bring the pats LBer coach to be DC. mans name is brian flores
this would confirm giants be sticking and building around eli  
micky : 1/14/2018 1:42 pm : link
if schurmur named hc
RE: this would confirm giants be sticking and building around eli  
Sammo85 : 1/14/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13787650 micky said:
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if schurmur named hc


No. Not at all. You don’t build around a QB who is 37 going on 38 next season.
RE: this would confirm giants be sticking and building around eli  
Sean : 1/14/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13787650 micky said:
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if schurmur named hc


I think the opposite. Your case is more likely with a defensive HC.
Yea let’s hire another coach with Eli in mind....  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 1:48 pm : link
I want no part of Shurmur or anyone else with ties to the Andy Reid coaching tree and indirectly Steve Spagnuolo who might find another way to stick around on this coaching staff.

A Shurmur here would have John Mara’s fingerprints all over it.
Isn’t hiring the coach Eli backs  
GoDeep13 : 1/14/2018 1:53 pm : link
How we ended up with Mcadoo in the first place?
Why would the pats guy come to  
DCPollaro : 1/14/2018 2:11 pm : link
Be a DC here when he can be a DC with the patriots
So, Eli will be good with backing up Case Keenum?  
Emlen'sGremlins : 1/14/2018 2:16 pm : link
It's been reported that Shurmur intends to bring him wherever he goes.
RE: So, Eli will be good with backing up Case Keenum?  
Greg from LI : 1/14/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13787738 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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It's been reported that Shurmur intends to bring him wherever he goes.


You are absolutely insufferable
Say it with  
jtgiants : 1/14/2018 2:25 pm : link
Me people. The Giants are not replacing eli manning with case Keenum. If shimmer is the guy he will know that going in
RE: RE: So, Eli will be good with backing up Case Keenum?  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/14/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13787753 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13787738 Emlen'sGremlins said:


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It's been reported that Shurmur intends to bring him wherever he goes.



You are absolutely insufferable


Agreed. 2 big idiots in complete denial in this thread.
RE: So, Eli will be good with backing up Case Keenum?  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13787738 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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It's been reported that Shurmur intends to bring him wherever he goes.


Certainly not widely reported..... :). He's not brining him here in any case.
Is anyone really comfortable with Eli’s presence  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 2:29 pm : link
having any impact on the coaching search this time around?

What about the potential for Spagnuolo sticking around as DC?
RE: Is anyone really comfortable with Eli’s presence  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13787802 Chris684 said:
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having any impact on the coaching search this time around?

What about the potential for Spagnuolo sticking around as DC?


Don't see any chance Spags stays around. Passed over for the HC then stay on? Very doubtful.
Don’t be so sure  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 2:49 pm : link
He has ties to Shurmur, Mara most likely loves him AND where the hell else is he going?
To throw names out there OC possibility Duce Staley Eagles  
Defenderdawg : 1/14/2018 3:32 pm : link
Shurmur's coaching stops:
• Michigan State graduate assistant, 1988-89
• Michigan State assistant (TE, OL, ST), 1990-97
• Stanford offensive line coach, 1998
• Eagles offensive line and tight ends coach, 1999-2001
• Eagles quarterbacks coach, 2002-08
• Rams offensive coordinator, 2009-10
• Browns head coach, 2011-12
• Eagles offensive coordinator, 2013-15 (Interim head coach, 2015)
• Vikings tight ends coach/interim offensive coordinator, 2016
• Vikings offensive coordinator, 2017


“Staley joined the Eagles as a coaching intern under Andy Reid before the 2010 season. He was promoted to special teams quality control coach in 2011 and became the Eagles running backs coach under Chip Kelly in 2013.

Staley is the only coach that has been with the Reid, Kelly, and Doug Pederson regimes. If he has it his way, one day Staley will have his own regime to oversee. He took a big step when he interviewed for the Eagles head coach position prior to the 2016 season.

“It was awesome to interview. To be able to go through that, I am thankful for it,” Staley said during a media availability session in June. “At the end of the day, you want to be a head coach. You want to be able to go out there and run your own team.”

The next step for Staley would probably have to be as an offensive coordinator either at the collegiate level or in the NFL. Staley had the opportunity to cut his teeth as a play caller at the East-West Shrine game.

Staley was the offensive coordinator for the East team. He had a week to implement his offense for the group of college all-stars to execute. Calling the plays for the East team at the Shrine Game was a valuable experience for Staley.”

On the Defensive side in some role a former DQ when Shurmur was in STL

Ken Flajole enters his 17th season as a coach in the NFL and his first in Philadelphia, where he will take over as the team’s linebackers coach.

Flajole (pronounced FLAY-juhl) has coached every defensive position during his 38-year coaching career and most recently coached the inside linebackers with the Cleveland Browns in 2013. While in Cleveland, Flajole worked with LB D’Qwell Jackson, who started all 16 games for the Browns at ILB and led the team with 143 tackles (93 solo).

In 2012, Flajole coached the secondary for the New Orleans Saints, where he worked with Eagles S Malcolm Jenkins.

Prior to his stint with the Saints, Flajole served as the defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams from 2009-11 under head coach Steve Spagnuolo. In his first season with St. Louis, Flajole helped develop rookie LB James Laurinaitis, who finished his rookie campaign with a team-high 144 tackles (96 solo), becoming just the second rookie in Rams history to lead the team in tackles.

Also during his time in St. Louis, Flajole helped develop Pro Bowl DE Chris Long, whose sack totals increased from 5.0 to 8.5 to a career-high 13.0 in his three seasons in Flajole’s defense.

Before earning St. Louis’ coordinator job, Flajole spent six years coaching linebackers for the Carolina Panthers under head coach John Fox. During his time with Carolina, Flajole helped the Panthers win two division titles, while making three playoff appearances, including two trips to the NFC Championship Game and one Super Bowl berth. While in Carolina, Flajole coached All-Pro LB Jon Beason, as well as LB Thomas Davis and Pro Bowl LBs Mark Fields and Dan Morgan.

what offensive scheme does Shurmur typically implement?  
mdc1 : 1/14/2018 5:02 pm : link
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There’s this  
Defenderdawg : 1/14/2018 5:29 pm : link
GiantsWFAN (@giantswfan)
1/14/18, 5:29 PM
Those who point to Shurmer's West Coast offense roots may be surprised that #VikingsGamedayLive 2nd in NFL with 31 rushes per game .... still smart enough to grind with a lead.
RE: We don’t need to be making a hire  
Mr. Bungle : 1/14/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13787502 Rflairr said:
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Based on How Eli Manning feels about the coach

Except that's not what it says. Good reading comprehension.
RE: There’s this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2018 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13788389 Defenderdawg said:
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GiantsWFAN (@giantswfan)
1/14/18, 5:29 PM
Those who point to Shurmer's West Coast offense roots may be surprised that #VikingsGamedayLive 2nd in NFL with 31 rushes per game .... still smart enough to grind with a lead.
This is a stupid tweet. "west coast offense" isn't another way of saying "don't run the ball".
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