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GiantGrit : 1/14/2018 4:49 pm
We have our new HC. Do not know who yet. I know its not exactly groundbreaking information but i figured i would share...my assumption is its Wilks, but that is a guess. Either way, we apparently have our new coach.
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RE: RE: Well JonC's word is good enough for me  
The_Boss : 1/14/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13788651 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13788648 Jay on the Island said:


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It is obviously McDaniels.



He said McDaniels?


Read between the lines
RE: RE: Well JonC's word is good enough for me  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13788651 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13788648 Jay on the Island said:


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It is obviously McDaniels.



He said McDaniels?

Look above to his reply to Emil's post
RE: RE: Well JonC's word is good enough for me  
BigBlue4You09 : 1/14/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13788651 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13788648 Jay on the Island said:


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It is obviously McDaniels.



He said McDaniels?


Scroll up, logic says it's McDaniels and he agreed.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13788654 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13788649 GFAN52 said:


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But maybe this goes hand in hand with a decision to go with a QB with the 2nd pick.


That's what I was thinking. Gettleman might have decided this was the better hire for the new QB they take with the 2nd pick.


In which case, either going with Shurmur or McDaniels makes total sense.
Let's see if Slade honors his words  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:06 pm : link
He pushed all the chips into the middle of the table stating it was going to be Belichick.
I hope McDaniels has grown up.  
bceagle05 : 1/14/2018 7:07 pm : link
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If its McDaniels BOOM love it  
est1986 : 1/14/2018 7:07 pm : link
Had a hand in 5 NE superbowls. A+.
Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
BLUATHRT : 1/14/2018 7:07 pm : link
Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.
Are we trading Eli for Luck  
DCPollaro : 1/14/2018 7:08 pm : link
Since I heard that McDaniels wants Luck??
If this team hired anyone  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 7:09 pm : link
who intends to keep Spagnuolo then the whole situation is fucked.

I wanted Wilks or Patricia for this very reason.

I really hope that’s not true.
RE: Are we trading Eli for Luck  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:10 pm : link
In comment 13788673 DCPollaro said:
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Since I heard that McDaniels wants Luck??


The 2014 version of Luck?
RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:
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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.

God I hope you're source is wrong again.
RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
Matt in SGS : 1/14/2018 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:
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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.


Interesting. As the names gravitate more towards an offensive head coach, I think the Mara family likes Spags and to Spags credit, the Giants played hard for him down the stretch. I wouldn't be shocked to see them keep him as DC.
RE: RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13788679 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:


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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.


God I hope you're source is wrong again.


Been there done that with Spags. Time for new blood.
I like it if it's McDaniels.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/14/2018 7:13 pm : link
I wanted an offensive coach with some experience with the expectation we'd take a QB at 2. I like Spags, but I would prefer to simply start fresh there.
There are several talented DC candidates available  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:14 pm : link
George Edwards contract will expire at season's end. Kris Richard is also a FA. I hope the Giants at least take a look at other candidates rather than just settling on Spags.
RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
GiantTuff1 : 1/14/2018 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:
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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.


Why are people so anti Spags? Did a tremendous job in 2016 with some talent, then this year the wheels fell off the entire team with injuries and the McAdoo effect.
RE: There are several talented DC candidates available  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2018 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13788686 Jay on the Island said:
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George Edwards contract will expire at season's end. Kris Richard is also a FA. I hope the Giants at least take a look at other candidates rather than just settling on Spags.


Most of these guys know who will be coming with them when they interview.
In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
est1986 : 1/14/2018 7:17 pm : link
Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.
RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
Mr. Nickels : 1/14/2018 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:
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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.


AWESOME!!
I’m not anti-Spags  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 7:18 pm : link
I’m simply pro-a completely fresh start.

We need a look at guys like Apple, Thompson, DRC and others through a lens other than Spagnuolo’s
Gettleman  
Sammo85 : 1/14/2018 7:18 pm : link
May have talked about defense but we have had historically terrible offenses two years in a row.

An offensive minded HC with a great resume shouldn’t shock anyone. Whether it is Shurmur or McDaniels.
WITH kind of info, one can hardly be wrong.  
Ivan15 : 1/14/2018 7:18 pm : link
Unless the Giants are left out in the cold.
Best news of the day  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/14/2018 7:19 pm : link
Joey in CT!
Take this with a grain of salt  
BigBlueShock : 1/14/2018 7:19 pm : link
This is not asshat info by any means, but a good friend of mine in New England that happens upon some whispers sometimes said the word on the street up there is its McDaniels to the Giants and that McDaniels has no interest in Indy regardless of speculation.

Again, no idea if this is even true but figured I’d share...
Correction*  
est1986 : 1/14/2018 7:19 pm : link
He tried to trade Cutler to N.E. in year 1 and the organization felt some type of way about that according to my memory of reports from that time.
People are down on Spags because they’re sick of the soft  
arniefez : 1/14/2018 7:20 pm : link
(Steeler/old Eagles pre wide 9) zone and DLs reading and reacting and dropping into zones. The only chance a defense has now in the NFL is too attack the QB at all costs almost all the time.
any good HC choice would be ruined for me  
LG in NYC : 1/14/2018 7:20 pm : link
if it was also announced that Spags stayed on as DC.
Since when is BLUATHRT an asshat?  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/14/2018 7:20 pm : link
Not buying it for a second.
RE: Take this with a grain of salt  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13788708 BigBlueShock said:
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This is not asshat info by any means, but a good friend of mine in New England that happens upon some whispers sometimes said the word on the street up there is its McDaniels to the Giants and that McDaniels has no interest in Indy regardless of speculation.

Again, no idea if this is even true but figured I’d share...

McDaniels must've changed his mind after realizing he would be working for Jim Irsay.
So does this mean  
Aaron Thomas : 1/14/2018 7:22 pm : link
the "Doomsday Scenario" the writers have been writing about the past 2 days isn't going to happen?
RE: So does this mean  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13788716 Aaron Thomas said:
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the "Doomsday Scenario" the writers have been writing about the past 2 days isn't going to happen?


Apparently so.
RE: Since when is BLUATHRT an asshat?  
BLUATHRT : 1/14/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13788713 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Not buying it for a second.


Buy what you want. I’ve posted two things I’ve heard and both have been wrong- this could be as well. Just thought I’d share.
RE: RE: You guys complain about slade  
paesan98 : 1/14/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13788333 GiantGrit said:
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And don’t kill this guy ?



For what exactly? I heard something and i shared it. We all want to know who our next HC is going to be - figured people would like to know it seems the team finally chose someone.


But you didn't share any information. If you don't say who was hired, that's not sharing.
So, assuming this is true..  
Sean : 1/14/2018 7:25 pm : link
OAK- Gruden
CHI- Nagy
DET- Patricia
NYG- McDaniels
IND- Vrabel
ARI- Shurmur
RE: In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
Gmanfandan : 1/14/2018 7:25 pm : link
In comment 13788701 est1986 said:
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Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.


How come no one on BBI remembers his legacy in Denver.

Are you really going to trust the guy who used the 25th pick in the draft (that he traded up to get) on Tim Tebow with our future franchise QB?
Eric  
BeckShepEli : 1/14/2018 7:26 pm : link
You said you heard from two different people. One was someone that you heard from in the past and the other someone new. How accurate is the person in the past with news
RE: RE: In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13788728 Gmanfandan said:
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Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.



How come no one on BBI remembers his legacy in Denver.

Are you really going to trust the guy who used the 25th pick in the draft (that he traded up to get) on Tim Tebow with our future franchise QB?


A. He has a strong GM in Gettleman
B. QBs selected at 2 versus 25 are apples to oranges
It’s hard for me not to believe that  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 7:28 pm : link
Gettleman leaned toward Wilks or Patricia after he and Patricia hit it off.

And that fuckin Mara leaned McDaniels or Shurmur based on a couple of failed head coaching records that help him sleep at night after he botched the McAdoo hire 2 years ago.

RE: It’s hard for me not to believe that  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13788731 Chris684 said:
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Gettleman leaned toward Wilks or Patricia after he and Patricia hit it off.

And that fuckin Mara leaned McDaniels or Shurmur based on a couple of failed head coaching records that help him sleep at night after he botched the McAdoo hire 2 years ago.


The "prior HC experience" may have been the deciding factor.
RE: RE: In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
section125 : 1/14/2018 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13788728 Gmanfandan said:
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Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.



How come no one on BBI remembers his legacy in Denver.

Are you really going to trust the guy who used the 25th pick in the draft (that he traded up to get) on Tim Tebow with our future franchise QB?


You play that game and you'll eliminate virtually every coach in the NFL, including BB.

Did he suck? yes. He was 31 years old. People grow, mature, develop and improve.
My source is telling me that Patricia to Detroit  
mikeygiants : 1/14/2018 7:32 pm : link
is NOT a done deal.

RE: RE: Eric is playing you all  
micky : 1/14/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13788630 Eric from BBI said:
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lmao



I don't play games on BBI.



lighten up..it was a damn joke
RE: RE: Ok take this with a grain of salt because it’s from the same  
jeff57 : 1/14/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13788687 GiantTuff1 said:
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In comment 13788669 BLUATHRT said:


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Front office contact that told me Braylon Edwards to the Giants was a done deal and that they were signing Felix Jones a few years back but, word is it is McDaniels and he will retain Spags as his D coordinator- going back to the opportunity Spags gave him in St. Louis after his Denver HC job.



Why are people so anti Spags? Did a tremendous job in 2016 with some talent, then this year the wheels fell off the entire team with injuries and the McAdoo effect.


Horrible in 2015. Horrible with the Rams and Saints. Must have Tom Quinn’s photos.
RE: My source is telling me that Patricia to Detroit  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13788737 mikeygiants said:
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is NOT a done deal.



Not what Eric hears.
RE: RE: It’s hard for me not to believe that  
Matt in SGS : 1/14/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13788732 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13788731 Chris684 said:


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Gettleman leaned toward Wilks or Patricia after he and Patricia hit it off.

And that fuckin Mara leaned McDaniels or Shurmur based on a couple of failed head coaching records that help him sleep at night after he botched the McAdoo hire 2 years ago.




The "prior HC experience" may have been the deciding factor.


This is the part that has always stuck out for me. McAdoo was such a disaster and in over his head that as an owner, you get burned like that, you usually don't go back to the well again. Going after Patricia or Wilks both essentially is risking a defensive McAdoo. Shurmer and McDaniels always closer fit the bill for what Mara wanted.
RE: Most die hard Steeler fans  
djm : 1/14/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13788488 Sammo85 said:
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Have wanted him fired for years. His leadership of “looking ahead to the Pats in the AFCC” was really hallmark. Can’t believe he said it on national TV too.


And most die hard steeler fans are fucking dense. Want to put my statement to the test? Meet me at north jersey bar during a steelers playoff game. Please.
RE: RE: RE: It’s hard for me not to believe that  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13788749 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 13788732 GFAN52 said:


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In comment 13788731 Chris684 said:


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Gettleman leaned toward Wilks or Patricia after he and Patricia hit it off.

And that fuckin Mara leaned McDaniels or Shurmur based on a couple of failed head coaching records that help him sleep at night after he botched the McAdoo hire 2 years ago.




The "prior HC experience" may have been the deciding factor.



This is the part that has always stuck out for me. McAdoo was such a disaster and in over his head that as an owner, you get burned like that, you usually don't go back to the well again. Going after Patricia or Wilks both essentially is risking a defensive McAdoo. Shurmer and McDaniels always closer fit the bill for what Mara wanted.


Agreed. Either would work for me.
Well it looks like Shurmur maybe free on Monday given the NO score  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:39 pm : link
to take the lead, and be able to accept a HC offer.
If it is McDaniels then it makes sense ro get a deal done prior to  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2018 7:42 pm : link
This game just in case Minnesota loses. If Shurmur was number 2 and you had McDaniels number 1 then if Minnesota loses you have to make up your mind if you want to risk losing Shurmur for the chance at McDaniels. So, now that McDaniels is locked up (assumin it is McDaniels) it puts the Giants in a better position.
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