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GiantGrit : 1/14/2018 4:49 pm
We have our new HC. Do not know who yet. I know its not exactly groundbreaking information but i figured i would share...my assumption is its Wilks, but that is a guess. Either way, we apparently have our new coach.
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RE: Well it looks like Shurmur maybe free on Monday given the NO score  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13788760 GFAN52 said:
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to take the lead, and be able to accept a HC offer.

Wow what a comeback. I would prefer Shurmur between the two especially if he can lure George Edwards to NY also.
RE: If it is McDaniels then it makes sense ro get a deal done prior to  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13788768 robbieballs2003 said:
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This game just in case Minnesota loses. If Shurmur was number 2 and you had McDaniels number 1 then if Minnesota loses you have to make up your mind if you want to risk losing Shurmur for the chance at McDaniels. So, now that McDaniels is locked up (assumin it is McDaniels) it puts the Giants in a better position.

The more important reason for hiring a HC ASAP is filling out the coaching staff. If they had to wait until after the SB they could miss out on several of their targets.
RE: RE: Well it looks like Shurmur maybe free on Monday given the NO score  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13788771 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13788760 GFAN52 said:


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to take the lead, and be able to accept a HC offer.


Wow what a comeback. I would prefer Shurmur between the two especially if he can lure George Edwards to NY also.


Maybe I spoke to quickly if the Vikings can get in FG range.
Things seem to be making sense now IMO.  
Aaron Thomas : 1/14/2018 7:52 pm : link
Not one defensive coach from the team in 2017 has left. Maybe the agreement all along has been to keep Spags and his staff and revamp the offense totally.
RE: Things seem to be making sense now IMO.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13788795 Aaron Thomas said:
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Not one defensive coach from the team in 2017 has left. Maybe the agreement all along has been to keep Spags and his staff and revamp the offense totally.


Pat Graham left
RE: Things seem to be making sense now IMO.  
Fast Eddie : 1/14/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13788795 Aaron Thomas said:
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Not one defensive coach from the team in 2017 has left. Maybe the agreement all along has been to keep Spags and his staff and revamp the offense totally.


Wrong
RE: My other stupid guess  
batman11 : 1/14/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13788556 BeckShepEli said:
[quote] is the Giants just hired someone big and the NFL doesn't want them to announce it during the game and it will break tonight [/quote.

Urban Meyer baby!!
RE: RE: My other stupid guess  
The_Boss : 1/14/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13788825 batman11 said:
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In comment 13788556 BeckShepEli said:
[quote] is the Giants just hired someone big and the NFL doesn't want them to announce it during the game and it will break tonight [/quote.

Urban Meyer baby!!


Maybe he’ll push to trade Eli Apple
Oh Fuck me is Philly going to get beat  
montanagiant : 1/14/2018 8:09 pm : link
What an ending to that game
What a  
mikeygiants : 1/14/2018 8:09 pm : link
disaster for Payton.
RE: What a  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 8:12 pm : link
In comment 13788889 mikeygiants said:
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disaster for Payton.


Brees deserved better.
if its Shurmur  
Andy in Boston : 1/14/2018 8:13 pm : link
my guess is defensive coordinator would be Jerry Gray...current Vikings secondary coach.
He's been a defensive coordinator before.
RE: if its Shurmur  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2018 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13788930 Andy in Boston said:
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my guess is defensive coordinator would be Jerry Gray...current Vikings secondary coach.
He's been a defensive coordinator before.

God I hope you're wrong. Gray was not a good DC.
Shurmur getting a HC job based on Keenum and this game alone  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 8:15 pm : link
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OK, game over!  
section125 : 1/14/2018 8:15 pm : link
tell us....
RE: Shurmur getting a HC job based on Keenum and this game alone  
section125 : 1/14/2018 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13788939 GFAN52 said:
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Hope not.
RE: RE: if its Shurmur  
Andy in Boston : 1/14/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13788932 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13788930 Andy in Boston said:


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my guess is defensive coordinator would be Jerry Gray...current Vikings secondary coach.
He's been a defensive coordinator before.


God I hope you're wrong. Gray was not a good DC.


Believe me....I hope I'm wrong too.
RE: RE: Shurmur getting a HC job based on Keenum and this game alone  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 13788946 section125 said:
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Hope not.


Even if not Giants, AZ is a done deal.
I'm warming on the Mike Munchak idea  
Andy in Boston : 1/14/2018 8:19 pm : link
guy is a winner.

And I'm curious why Dan Campbell with Saints isn't a head coaching candidate.
RE: OK, game over!  
eli4life : 1/14/2018 8:32 pm : link
In comment 13788943 section125 said:
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tell us....


I second this
RE: RE: OK, game over!  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13789005 eli4life said:
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In comment 13788943 section125 said:


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tell us....



I second this


Officially, if it's Patricia, McDaniels or Shurmur I guess the earliest you'll hear anything official is when they're teams are eliminated.
It's McDaniels  
Joey in VA : 1/14/2018 8:57 pm : link
Stop wondering, start listening.
I once stayed at a  
SJGiant : 1/14/2018 8:58 pm : link
Holiday Inn Express. Does that qualify me as an asshat?
So was this all for nothing?  
hitchchops2 : 1/14/2018 8:59 pm : link
No rumors from anywhere else, and this seems to be quieting down...false alarm?
RE: It's McDaniels  
Matt in SGS : 1/14/2018 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13789043 Joey in VA said:
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Stop wondering, start listening.


Joey,

I'm waiting for you to bust one of these out

If there is smoke here..  
Sean : 1/14/2018 9:00 pm : link
It should leak at some point tonight.
RE: So was this all for nothing?  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/14/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13789050 hitchchops2 said:
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No rumors from anywhere else, and this seems to be quieting down...false alarm?


Not at all. Pats and Vikes are still in it.
Sportscaster on FOX in Phoenix hearing....  
MOOPS : 1/14/2018 9:05 pm : link
Shurmur not high on the list for the Cards. Says it wouldn't be a good fit. Speculated that Munchak or James Bettcher would be more likely.
Also thought Shurmur makes much more sense for the Giants.
Ugh so  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2018 9:07 pm : link
Asshat info= McDaniels?

But it still could be shurmur? I’m fine with either just seems like we will never find out at this rate.
Like it or not McDaniels is a bold move...  
Chris684 : 1/14/2018 9:10 pm : link
McDaniels with Spags (if true) would ruin it.

You have to ask yourself how much better McD as HC with Spags defense would be than the failure that was Spags HC with McD O.
Hard to fathom multiple people on this board ...  
hitchchops2 : 1/14/2018 9:10 pm : link
...have sources no other reporter has...not expecting anything official, but a rumor coming from somewhere else seems reasonable, no?
Spags doesn't ruin McDaniels or Shurmur for me.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/14/2018 9:13 pm : link
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RE: Hard to fathom multiple people on this board ...  
giantsfaninphilly : 1/14/2018 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13789080 hitchchops2 said:
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...have sources no other reporter has...not expecting anything official, but a rumor coming from somewhere else seems reasonable, no?


Not really. hitdog42 has been a good source. Eric has sources that email him privately. He said he had the same info from 2 sources, one he knew and another he didn't. If you read the thread thoroughly it's pointing to McDaniels. Just because the beat writers don't have a clue doesn't mean that others on the board don't.
RE: Hard to fathom multiple people on this board ...  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13789080 hitchchops2 said:
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...have sources no other reporter has...not expecting anything official, but a rumor coming from somewhere else seems reasonable, no?


Nothing "official" is allowed so that's a pointless to look for until any coaches in playoffs are finished. But the Ian Rapport, Adam Schefter types getting wind of it would be nice.
From what I  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2018 9:20 pm : link
Can recall Hitdog is usually right and Eric’s inside info as well.
RE: Hard to fathom multiple people on this board ...  
section125 : 1/14/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13789080 hitchchops2 said:
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...have sources no other reporter has...not expecting anything official, but a rumor coming from somewhere else seems reasonable, no?


Eric has contacts, hitdog42 and JonC have contacts. If those three all agree on something, you have a pretty good chance that what they say is correct.

If you notice, none have come out directly as said so, but it is inferred/hinted. Each has to protect their contact and cannot confirm until the word comes out officially.
RE: From what I  
Big Rick in FL : 1/14/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13789098 cokeduplt said:
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Can recall Hitdog is usually right and Eric’s inside info as well.


Don't think Hitdog has ever been wrong
RE: RE: In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
paesan98 : 1/14/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13788728 Gmanfandan said:
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Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.



How come no one on BBI remembers his legacy in Denver.

Are you really going to trust the guy who used the 25th pick in the draft (that he traded up to get) on Tim Tebow with our future franchise QB?


Like you, they choose to remember only the parts that support their argument. You don't want him to be our coach, so you concentrate only on the negative aspects. All of these guys have some good and some bad things in their past.
RE: Hard to fathom multiple people on this board ...  
mfsd : 1/14/2018 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13789080 hitchchops2 said:
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...have sources no other reporter has...not expecting anything official, but a rumor coming from somewhere else seems reasonable, no?


Reporters have sources too, but they can’t publish every rumor they hear, they do try to verify from multiple sources before publishing (something I’m sure the beats are working on right now). Part of what makes internet chatter fun

Someone posts inside info and rumors here, they risk getting flamed by a bunch of anonymous fellow fans.

A reporter posts rumors, they risk losing access to the teams they cover...which is a career risk for them

Some of them still do post rumors in the ongoing game to one up each other...and look pretty bad if/when they’re proven wrong
If it’s McDaniels  
jeff57 : 1/14/2018 9:34 pm : link
Not wild about his preferred DC.
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RE: If it’s McDaniels  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13789123 jeff57 said:
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Not wild about his preferred DC. Link - ( New Window )


Don’t know him but the cowboy linebackers are usually good. What’s wrong with him?
RE: If it’s McDaniels  
UConn4523 : 1/14/2018 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13789123 jeff57 said:
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Not wild about his preferred DC. Link - ( New Window )


Why, their LB unit is arguably the best unit on the team other than the OL.
RE: RE: RE: In Denver, McDaniels helped Kyle Orton  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13789114 paesan98 said:
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In comment 13788728 Gmanfandan said:


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In comment 13788701 est1986 said:


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Throw for 3,800+ yards in year one with not much talent on offense outside of Brandon Marshall... got fired in year 2 because the team struggled on top of him trying to trade Jay Cutler to New England for Matt Cassell and they didn't like that he benched Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons.



How come no one on BBI remembers his legacy in Denver.

Are you really going to trust the guy who used the 25th pick in the draft (that he traded up to get) on Tim Tebow with our future franchise QB?



Like you, they choose to remember only the parts that support their argument. You don't want him to be our coach, so you concentrate only on the negative aspects. All of these guys have some good and some bad things in their past.


While that’s a valid point he’s not going to be the GM.
Well BBI rumors have made it onto twitter  
blueblood : 1/14/2018 9:40 pm : link
so this should be entertaining at least
RE: RE: If it’s McDaniels  
jeff57 : 1/14/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13789127 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13789123 jeff57 said:


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Not wild about his preferred DC. Link - ( New Window )



Why, their LB unit is arguably the best unit on the team other than the OL.


Their DL is better.

He’s been a LB coach for some 10 years with the Browns and the Cowboys. Hasn’t advanced or stood out.
The good thing about McDaniels  
ghost718 : 1/14/2018 9:42 pm : link
All the McAdoo nicknames would carry over well.

Just a few alterations here and there
I don’t agree  
UConn4523 : 1/14/2018 9:44 pm : link
that LB corps has been the highlight of their defense for years. Their Line had a good year this year but they’ve dealt with massive LB injuries over the years and still make it work.

No idea about the lack of advancement so I can’t speak to that. But there’s probably no better facility in the nfl and maybe the perks have just been really good over the years working in Dallas.
RE: Like it or not McDaniels is a bold move...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/14/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13789079 Chris684 said:
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McDaniels with Spags (if true) would ruin it.

You have to ask yourself how much better McD as HC with Spags defense would be than the failure that was Spags HC with McD O.


McD will want his own DC. I don't see Spags returning given the house cleaning we've just seen.
As for McDaniels  
UConn4523 : 1/14/2018 9:45 pm : link
how long will he have to suffer the Tebow pick? It was a long fucking time ago and he’s admitted previous mistakes. Should he never coach again because of it? What about all the good he’s done?

The perfect candidate doesn’t exist.
RE: I don’t agree  
cokeduplt : 1/14/2018 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13789144 UConn4523 said:
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that LB corps has been the highlight of their defense for years. Their Line had a good year this year but they’ve dealt with massive LB injuries over the years and still make it work.

No idea about the lack of advancement so I can’t speak to that. But there’s probably no better facility in the nfl and maybe the perks have just been really good over the years working in Dallas.


Also maybe we could have good Linebackers again!!
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