We have our new HC. Do not know who yet. I know its not exactly groundbreaking information but i figured i would share...my assumption is its Wilks, but that is a guess. Either way, we apparently have our new coach.
Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
Well yeah that's where the fear comes from, you get called on the carpet, told you don't know shit and then people mistrust you. Why go out on a limb when it may break and the people below will bludgeon you with their keyboards?
I personally don't want McDaniels or Wilks, Shurmur I have no opinion on yet. I think it takes a certain type of personality and demeanor to be good at this and I don't see that in either of those guys. Wilks seems like a yes man and McDaniels still gets in tiffs with Tom Brady like a 10 year old. Now Munchak breaks free, which means one more opening but also maybe one more candidate?
Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
It's more about being careful with what is shared and when, especially when things get relayed to places like Twitter.
There was no confirmation given, we each shared hearing what the chatter was yesterday. Without a confirmed deal signed the situation is fluid.
Given this morning's news out of Tennessee, am I right to assume that what you guys Eric, JonC, hotdog, etc..) were hearing yesterday is no longer applicable? Or would you not completely write that off yet?
Now the info shared yesterday alluded to the fact that we were in agreement w/someone & the coaching search was over.We used to call that a Gentleman's Agreement. However if this agreement was broken,the Giants have no recourse in this matter.It's why anyone w/"asshat"info on BBI is very careful on how & what they share as they have no control of that situation going forward. It's why I appreciate people like JonC,Eric & hitdog still,in spite of the assholes who react to asshats info if it doesn't come true,trying to tell us what they have heard.Please don't stop fellas,it's one of the great things about BBI.You can only control what you can control & for the majority of us it is greatly appreciated!
Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
So some of you saying McDaniels... other's agreeing but saying that if it's Shurmur you would have no clue... other's saying Wilks and Shurmur but NOT McDaniels....
As someone who just registered, it's really hard to decipher what's BS and what's not lol....
Don't try. Thank the lead, take it for what it is worth and go on your merry way.
These situations are very fluid. It could be that team is settled on Candidate A and then the contract negotiations become a headache and the team or the Candidate moves on or threatens to move on, it could be that team and Candidate A are all on board but the Cadidate's family objects or wants to move closer to home or other family and Candidate A balks, it could be a team or an agent spreading disinformation or trying to create some buzz in the fanbase in one direction or another.
Unfortunately, there are some posters who do not comprehend this and want a "scoop". They pile on immediately in many cases and start scorekeeping as though someone guaranteed them something. The net result of this idiocy is posters say nothing or leave rather than put up with the bullshit.
Personally, if Jawn Mara walked up to me, furnished ID and told me who the next coach was, I wouldn't say a word on here because it isn't worth the nonsense.
Now the info shared yesterday alluded to the fact that we were in agreement w/someone & the coaching search was over.We used to call that a Gentleman's Agreement. However if this agreement was broken,the Giants have no recourse in this matter.It's why anyone w/"asshat"info on BBI is very careful on how & what they share as they have no control of that situation going forward. It's why I appreciate people like JonC,Eric & hitdog still,in spite of the assholes who react to asshats info if it doesn't come true,trying to tell us what they have heard.Please don't stop fellas,it's one of the great things about BBI.You can only control what you can control & for the majority of us it is greatly appreciated!
Given this morning's news out of Tennessee, am I right to assume that what you guys Eric, JonC, hotdog, etc..) were hearing yesterday is no longer applicable? Or would you not completely write that off yet?
I've heard nothing new today, but the chatter on tv about the Titans gig opening up potentially changing things.
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As much as Titans covet Josh McDaniels, there's little to no shot of landing him this late in the game. The Colts remain heavy favorites
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McDaniels is a virtual lock to be Colts next head coach. Patricia going to Detroit. Shurmur heading to NYG. Leaves AZ/TEN needing HCs...
Canfora has been pretty tied in to nyg since Gettleman was the hire
One of the problems the asshats bring upon themselves though...
is when they allow people to infer knowledge they have no business inferring. For example, a person who admittedly knows nothing about who was supposedly hired unofficially yesterday, but has heard that the Giants have made that commitment then allows people to infer that they know who the Giants have signed causes much argument and strife over who knows what.
It would be easier (and imo better to read through the threads) if the asshats were a little clearer about what they've heard.
Whatever - this is admittedly pretty petty stuff to get in a twist about, but then it might help us read through fewer posts trying to decipher what seems like purposefully confusing prose.
(I've also heard they've reached an agreement, but I can't say with who) is so much clearer than (I've also heard they've reached an agreement, but my people don't know who with).
who only look for color under threads titled Asshat, usually will miss a lot of the color.
people who have color dont enjoy making anything obvious, as that would be quite selfish/stupid to do.
I didnt make the thread to be selfish. People have been going crazy (myself included) to know who the new coach will be. It is a worrisome time, but an exciting time too. Personally, i love coming here and reading when you or the other credible guys relay what you hear. Whether you discreetly put something in a different thread, or give it its own thread, its being put out there regardless.
its so much more fun when people with sources post what they hear
i dont understand why anyone gets bent out of shape about it. you'd rather just argue amongst yourselves over whether patricia's a jerk for preferring detroit over nyc? now that seems like a waste of time
who only look for color under threads titled Asshat, usually will miss a lot of the color.
people who have color dont enjoy making anything obvious, as that would be quite selfish/stupid to do.
I didnt make the thread to be selfish. People have been going crazy (myself included) to know who the new coach will be. It is a worrisome time, but an exciting time too. Personally, i love coming here and reading when you or the other credible guys relay what you hear. Whether you discreetly put something in a different thread, or give it its own thread, its being put out there regardless.
That there is an unknown candidate for the giants still. Anyone else see that? Who could it be?
Not gonna happen, but I'd laugh if, after all the wild speculation and hand-wringing, the Giants somehow landed Belichick. I'd laugh even harder if both Patricia and McDaniels got jobs elsewhere and left the Pats holding the bag.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Belichick isn't coming. Let it go.
Arc - We will see what happens. I understand where you are coming from - it does sound too good to be true. Thanks for being polite and not being a dick. "beELIve it and it will happen." m strahan
That there is an unknown candidate for the giants still. Anyone else see that? Who could it be?
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"YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF, AND YOU SHIT DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray."
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Belichick isn't coming. Let it go.
Arc - We will see what happens. I understand where you are coming from - it does sound too good to be true. Thanks for being polite and not being a dick. "beELIve it and it will happen." m strahan
I'm just not sure what is making you so confident in this.
All indications are that Shurmur is the guy and if not for the miracle play to Diggs last night, it would probably be official right about now.
Of course, until it is final, it is not final.
But I think the Giants are pretty intent on offering him the job and by all accounts, he plans on accepting it.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
Wilks or Shurmur. Not McDaniels.
Too many asshats spoil the broth.
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Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
I personally don't want McDaniels or Wilks, Shurmur I have no opinion on yet. I think it takes a certain type of personality and demeanor to be good at this and I don't see that in either of those guys. Wilks seems like a yes man and McDaniels still gets in tiffs with Tom Brady like a 10 year old. Now Munchak breaks free, which means one more opening but also maybe one more candidate?
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Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
I think it's less them fearing getting something wrong and more the fact that a lot of people around here are flaming assholes about this kind of stuff.
It's more about being careful with what is shared and when, especially when things get relayed to places like Twitter.
There was no confirmation given, we each shared hearing what the chatter was yesterday. Without a confirmed deal signed the situation is fluid.
Given this morning's news out of Tennessee, am I right to assume that what you guys Eric, JonC, hotdog, etc..) were hearing yesterday is no longer applicable? Or would you not completely write that off yet?
Now the info shared yesterday alluded to the fact that we were in agreement w/someone & the coaching search was over.We used to call that a Gentleman's Agreement. However if this agreement was broken,the Giants have no recourse in this matter.It's why anyone w/"asshat"info on BBI is very careful on how & what they share as they have no control of that situation going forward. It's why I appreciate people like JonC,Eric & hitdog still,in spite of the assholes who react to asshats info if it doesn't come true,trying to tell us what they have heard.Please don't stop fellas,it's one of the great things about BBI.You can only control what you can control & for the majority of us it is greatly appreciated!
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Hinting dont want to get it wrong for fear of ruining some track record. Its like a surgeon turning down a risky surgery that can mess up his or her rating. Hand me the scalpel, the source that two of the people mentioned repeatedly on this thread are the same guy. Its the same guy who shares with me, only I generally stay away from the breaking news thing because well I really dont care to be first or seen as clued in. The same guy who told two of those people told me he heard it was McDaniels. He could be wrong, the information may change based on last nights game, people change their minds, which is why those hearing things refuse to speak out of turn in case they are wrong. Ultimately who gives a fart, I heard Josh McDaniels from the same guy.
So some of you saying McDaniels... other's agreeing but saying that if it's Shurmur you would have no clue... other's saying Wilks and Shurmur but NOT McDaniels....
As someone who just registered, it's really hard to decipher what's BS and what's not lol....
These situations are very fluid. It could be that team is settled on Candidate A and then the contract negotiations become a headache and the team or the Candidate moves on or threatens to move on, it could be that team and Candidate A are all on board but the Cadidate's family objects or wants to move closer to home or other family and Candidate A balks, it could be a team or an agent spreading disinformation or trying to create some buzz in the fanbase in one direction or another.
Unfortunately, there are some posters who do not comprehend this and want a "scoop". They pile on immediately in many cases and start scorekeeping as though someone guaranteed them something. The net result of this idiocy is posters say nothing or leave rather than put up with the bullshit.
Personally, if Jawn Mara walked up to me, furnished ID and told me who the next coach was, I wouldn't say a word on here because it isn't worth the nonsense.
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opened the can of worms yesterday.
Now the info shared yesterday alluded to the fact that we were in agreement w/someone & the coaching search was over.We used to call that a Gentleman's Agreement. However if this agreement was broken,the Giants have no recourse in this matter.It's why anyone w/"asshat"info on BBI is very careful on how & what they share as they have no control of that situation going forward. It's why I appreciate people like JonC,Eric & hitdog still,in spite of the assholes who react to asshats info if it doesn't come true,trying to tell us what they have heard.Please don't stop fellas,it's one of the great things about BBI.You can only control what you can control & for the majority of us it is greatly appreciated!
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opened the can of worms yesterday.
Given this morning's news out of Tennessee, am I right to assume that what you guys Eric, JonC, hotdog, etc..) were hearing yesterday is no longer applicable? Or would you not completely write that off yet?
I've heard nothing new today, but the chatter on tv about the Titans gig opening up potentially changing things.
TheMick, great post!
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As much as Titans covet Josh McDaniels, there's little to no shot of landing him this late in the game. The Colts remain heavy favorites
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McDaniels is a virtual lock to be Colts next head coach. Patricia going to Detroit. Shurmur heading to NYG. Leaves AZ/TEN needing HCs...
Canfora has been pretty tied in to nyg since Gettleman was the hire
It would be easier (and imo better to read through the threads) if the asshats were a little clearer about what they've heard.
Whatever - this is admittedly pretty petty stuff to get in a twist about, but then it might help us read through fewer posts trying to decipher what seems like purposefully confusing prose.
(I've also heard they've reached an agreement, but I can't say with who) is so much clearer than (I've also heard they've reached an agreement, but my people don't know who with).
people who have color dont enjoy making anything obvious, as that would be quite selfish/stupid to do.
I didnt make the thread to be selfish. People have been going crazy (myself included) to know who the new coach will be. It is a worrisome time, but an exciting time too. Personally, i love coming here and reading when you or the other credible guys relay what you hear. Whether you discreetly put something in a different thread, or give it its own thread, its being put out there regardless.
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who only look for color under threads titled Asshat, usually will miss a lot of the color.
people who have color dont enjoy making anything obvious, as that would be quite selfish/stupid to do.
I didnt make the thread to be selfish. People have been going crazy (myself included) to know who the new coach will be. It is a worrisome time, but an exciting time too. Personally, i love coming here and reading when you or the other credible guys relay what you hear. Whether you discreetly put something in a different thread, or give it its own thread, its being put out there regardless.
Wasnt directed at you
Your thread is fine
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Tom Quinn.
Not gonna happen, but I'd laugh if, after all the wild speculation and hand-wringing, the Giants somehow landed Belichick. I'd laugh even harder if both Patricia and McDaniels got jobs elsewhere and left the Pats holding the bag.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
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says we're getting BB.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Belichick isn't coming. Let it go.
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says we're getting BB.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Belichick isn't coming. Let it go.
Arc - We will see what happens. I understand where you are coming from - it does sound too good to be true. Thanks for being polite and not being a dick. "beELIve it and it will happen." m strahan
Ed "Straight Arrow" Gennaro
"YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF, AND YOU SHIT DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray."
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In comment 13788318 Ryan in Albany said:
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says we're getting BB.
Still true. That is why the Giants have said they are not doing any wink wink agreements. If McDaniel and Patricia are out some are ASSUMING that means Shurmer.
Belichick isn't coming. Let it go.
Arc - We will see what happens. I understand where you are coming from - it does sound too good to be true. Thanks for being polite and not being a dick. "beELIve it and it will happen." m strahan
I'm just not sure what is making you so confident in this.
All indications are that Shurmur is the guy and if not for the miracle play to Diggs last night, it would probably be official right about now.
Of course, until it is final, it is not final.
But I think the Giants are pretty intent on offering him the job and by all accounts, he plans on accepting it.