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I don't think I've ever seen BBI so rattled

exiled : 1/15/2018 11:17 am
It'd be funny if I weren't somewhat rattled myself. After all, I am checking in almost every hour, hoping for updates.

But thinking with a little clarity, I'm sure the organization has a sound strategy moving forward. There's no doomsday scenario playing out. Weren't we all hoping that they'd take their time with the HC and hire the right guy? Well, that's what's happening.

Or maybe they're just toying with us.

I’m happy with the way things are going so far.  
bradshaw44 : 1/15/2018 11:19 am : link
No rushing into dumb decisions like with BM.
RE: I’m happy with the way things are going so far.  
Bill in UT : 1/15/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13789961 bradshaw44 said:
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No rushing into dumb decisions like with BM.


you can mosey into bad decisions, too
What decisions has this organization made  
bigbluehoya : 1/15/2018 11:23 am : link
In the last 5 years that would give you comfort that they have a sound strategy in place moving forward?

I think that’s where a lot of the hysteria is rooted. They’ve been a joke for going on 5 years, and it would appear that NYG aren’t exactly viewed as a prime destination by (what was) the top crop of available coaching candidates.
RE: What decisions has this organization made  
bLiTz 2k : 1/15/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 13789969 bigbluehoya said:
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In the last 5 years that would give you comfort that they have a sound strategy in place moving forward?

I think that’s where a lot of the hysteria is rooted. They’ve been a joke for going on 5 years, and it would appear that NYG aren’t exactly viewed as a prime destination by (what was) the top crop of available coaching candidates.


Firing Reese/Ross is a good start to bouncing back.
I don't know why  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 11:26 am : link
but I'm surprisingly serene
I Just hope  
JINTin Adirondacks : 1/15/2018 11:32 am : link
The popcorn holds out till we name a new HC.. all that's left is for the site to crash just moments before we do!
gidie I think its because  
Dave on the UWS : 1/15/2018 11:36 am : link
we believe we have a competent GM to lead. That he will find a coach that he can work with.
If this is rattled  
section125 : 1/15/2018 11:36 am : link
wait until draft day approaches.

Seems normal to me - usual bluster and BS...
Right now, the Giants don't seem to have fucked this up.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/15/2018 11:36 am : link
So I'm good.

No announcement yet means it could still be Bill Bellichik.
you think BBI is rattled now?  
Josh in the City : 1/15/2018 11:37 am : link
wait until the head coach is actually announced...
RE: gidie I think its because  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 11:38 am : link
In comment 13790001 Dave on the UWS said:
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we believe we have a competent GM to lead. That he will find a coach that he can work with.


I admit -- I like Gettleman and it does give me a sense that there is competence on board
I am sure we will get  
bluepepper : 1/15/2018 11:39 am : link
a qualified head coach. Every year there is a somewhat arbitrary list of candidates. Some guys who were candidates a year ago but not hired drop off. Remember Teryl Austin? Other guys come out of nowhere and jump to the top of the list - see Matt Nagy. Not hard to believe that you could start over today and come up with some pretty damned good coaches who just weren't deemed "hot" for whatever reason.

And yes, I get a bit hyped up but I know the end game will be okay. It's kind of like when you're watching a game and curse this guy out or you kick that chair or whatever. It's fleeting emotions not really reflective of any long term state of mind.
I got confidence in Gettleman.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2018 11:39 am : link
& that we'll make the right decision. I'm pretty calm.
RE: I don't know why  
bigbluehoya : 1/15/2018 11:40 am : link
In comment 13789980 gidiefor said:
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but I'm surprisingly serene


I’m with you in the sense that I don’t believe they’ve missed out on any can’t-miss coaches. I don’t think the crop was all that exciting.

What does give me some concern is the idea (if the reports are to be believed) that coaches like Patricia and McDaniels are passing them over for seemingly mediocre gigs like Detroit and Tennessee.

New York City, organizational history, 2nd pick in the draft, and OBJ should be a pretty attractive bill of goods. Especially, you’d think, with Belichick only having positive things to say about NYG in terms of any private/personal advice he’s shared with the two.

And they’re getting skipped over for the “opportunity” to live in the greater Detroit area, and for Marcus Mariota coming off the brutal season he just had?

I find it a little concerning. There’s something at least a little bit unattractive about the job as it’s currently being offered right now. As always, it would be great to be a fly on the wall for those interviews.
I'd agree DG's decisions so far  
JonC : 1/15/2018 11:42 am : link
have generated some confidence. But, the HC decision is a pivotal one ...
.  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2018 11:43 am : link
Not me.

I'm enjoying seeing this unfold and am glad nothing is being rushed.
Sometimes  
PaulN : 1/15/2018 11:43 am : link
You get a little lucky, maybe losing out on some of the guys that this now extremely questionable owner wanted, are gone, maybe he let's the fucking GM pick his guy and it all works out in the end despite, what is growing increasingly obvious, a fucking stooge of an owner.
I like the really darkhorses in this race. The way it is playing out  
wgenesis123 : 1/15/2018 11:45 am : link
could bring one of them into the picture soon.
RE: What decisions has this organization made  
Reb8thVA : 1/15/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 13789969 bigbluehoya said:
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In the last 5 years that would give you comfort that they have a sound strategy in place moving forward?

I think that’s where a lot of the hysteria is rooted. They’ve been a joke for going on 5 years, and it would appear that NYG aren’t exactly viewed as a prime destination by (what was) the top crop of available coaching candidates.


I’ve been extremely critical of this organization over the last five years but I am more confident going forward with the selection of Gettleman. I think picking the right GM was the most critical decision this off season and I think they got it right. I’m more confident that talent acquisition will improve. I understand the handwringing about the coach but I think a lot of people are just gravitating to the big names. I’m not sold on Mc Daniels and Patricia may also prove he is a better DC than head coach. We will be ok
wait till lord eli  
sundayatone : 1/15/2018 11:47 am : link
gets released,it will be like 1929.
JonC = Asshat  
arniefez : 1/15/2018 11:48 am : link
So why would you think Gettleman has the authority to hire the HC? Everyone knows the Mara Bros will hire the head coach and Gettleman will have very little say.
I think  
joeinpa : 1/15/2018 11:48 am : link
People are rattled because they think they know things that they really
Don t.

It will play out and Giants will hire a competent head coach, maybe a great one.

There is no doomsday scenerio
RE: RE: I don't know why  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 13790018 bigbluehoya said:
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What does give me some concern is the idea (if the reports are to be believed) that coaches like Patricia and McDaniels are passing them over for seemingly mediocre gigs like Detroit and Tennessee.


These things actually don't concern me -- they speak about the individual making the decision. If Patricia feels safer in Detroit then NY he's probably not a good coach for us. I've never warmed up to McDaniels so if he's taking his act to Tennessee -- so be it. There is nothing about him that excites me and his ego is the size of Texas.

I know this is not the popular view - but I'm feeling back to being positive -- which I wasn't from game 4 on this season. I let a lot go when the Giants fired Mac, Reese and Ross. And I'm a big Gettleman fan. I think he's just a plain ol' real football guy!
If you think this is bad  
mfsd : 1/15/2018 11:50 am : link
you’ve haven been around for a while...this represents moderate BBI hysteria, compared to times like the 2004 draft
RE: JonC = Asshat  
section125 : 1/15/2018 11:58 am : link
In comment 13790035 arniefez said:
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So why would you think Gettleman has the authority to hire the HC? Everyone knows the Mara Bros will hire the head coach and Gettleman will have very little say.


Yes Mara and Tisch will ultimately pick the HC. No, Gettleman will have a very big say in who. I'm fairly certain after the last few years, Mara and Tisch will try to get it right and Gettleman will push somebody or two to the forefront, with a strong recommendation on one.
Well  
Gman11 : 1/15/2018 11:59 am : link
their top 3 candidates are still in the playoffs, so I don't see any problem here.
section125  
arniefez : 1/15/2018 12:06 pm : link
I don't agree and I don't think Tisch will have any say either. John & Chris Mara will choose the coach they want. Wellington & John chose Coughlin, Ernie wanted no part of Coughlin. John & Chris chose McAdoo. Just my opinion. Nothing I've seen since 2004 says Gettleman will have much of a say.
RE: wait till lord eli  
exiled : 1/15/2018 12:23 pm : link
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gets released,it will be like 1929.

It will be for me. I love that guy.
I don't understand why..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2018 12:27 pm : link
people think Patricia or McDaniel's taking other jobs is reflective of the Giants.

Both of them have strong ties to the GM or FO at Detroit and Tenn.

It isn't like they are going to complete unknowns.
A few years back,  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/15/2018 12:28 pm : link
the Giants probably would have been destination #1 in comparison to teams like the Lions and Titans. Pretty amazing to witness this.

Thanks, Reese!
RE: wait till lord eli  
mfsd : 1/15/2018 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13790034 sundayatone said:
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gets released,it will be like 1929.


It’s past time you came up with some new material
Not rattled or concerned  
Jason in OR : 1/15/2018 12:38 pm : link
in 1991 George Young made arguably the biggest mistake in choosing a HC, and in 1993 we were not a good looking franchise, mediocre talent and close enough to the dysfunction of prior years to make some of our "wants" balk so we got Dan Reeves.

The 2017 Giants were not a 3-13 team, they just played like it, we are not the browns, and any coach worth his salt knows that if you come to NY and perform to reasonable standards you get a long rope with a stable franchise (recent fubars aside).

Mcadoo was a case where we went shopping while hungry, after offloading a coach that had somewhat gotten stale, and was like the handley decision, likely also based off some Jerry Reese self preservationist input. Sobeit, its done, we know the outcome.

The difference is we aren't the 1993 Giants. We are not a 3-13 team, just had a bad season, we have a great pick(s), a solid but not super great roster, but enough for a coach with ambition and a vision to build upon. Arguably a once in a generation talent at WR, and an ownership that hates turnover and chaos (for the most part)

So if one of our picks feels better at TN or Indy, oh well. I want a measured approach to getting our next coach, not a knee jerk shopping while hungry approach, and if its No McD, or Patricia, Or Shrumur, I wont lose sleep Ill wait and see who the guy they bring in is and what he does before getting overly upset any more.

I used to get so mad over TC at times, I stopped enjoying watching the Giants. This year was a fun year for me as for once I wasn't watching games all knotted up, I didn't like losing but i loved not hating Sunday when we lost.

Im taking that approach this season, and during this coaching search. (there are some on here who have known me for a very long time that will wonder where Jason went and what did the aliens do with him)

Hey look..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2018 12:38 pm : link
it's another thread where the fuckstick works in his lord eli shit.

On a thread that has nothing to do with Eli!

Awesome!

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wait till lord eli
sundayatone : 11:47 am : link : reply
gets released,it will be like 1929.
RE: I don't understand why..  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2018 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13790144 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people think Patricia or McDaniel's taking other jobs is reflective of the Giants.

Both of them have strong ties to the GM or FO at Detroit and Tenn.

It isn't like they are going to complete unknowns.


People like to create their own narratives even when there's nothing to back them up.
With every passing day  
mrvax : 1/15/2018 12:41 pm : link
and no announcement, I believe more that the HC target has A)a deal made with a handshake and B)is on 1 of those 4 teams left.
RE: Hey look..  
bLiTz 2k : 1/15/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13790176 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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it's another thread where the fuckstick works in his lord eli shit.

On a thread that has nothing to do with Eli!

Awesome!



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wait till lord eli
sundayatone : 11:47 am : link : reply
gets released,it will be like 1929.



yep...this douche of a troll makes EliteMobster look like an absolute genius.
I don't even care at this point  
SHO'NUFF : 1/15/2018 2:20 pm : link
the wheel keeps spinning, where it stops? Nobody knows...
RE: JonC = Asshat  
JonC : 1/15/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13790035 arniefez said:
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So why would you think Gettleman has the authority to hire the HC? Everyone knows the Mara Bros will hire the head coach and Gettleman will have very little say.


I wasn't inferring it's solely his decision, we know it's a group-think decision.
Not rattled at all  
Modus Operandi : 1/15/2018 3:09 pm : link
Perfectly content with this off-season thus far. Love the Gettleman hiring. Like the Schurmer hiring. It's been a lot of fun, considering we haven't made any real roster changes yet.
3-13 with a string of bad drafts, losing a locker room ...  
Boy Cord : 1/15/2018 5:27 pm : link
... and the uncertainty at QB will do that to a fan base.
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