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Dalvin Tomlinson ended the season really strong

gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 12:06 pm
stat wise he had a better season than Hankins did --

(Hankins had 44 Combined tackles and 2 sacks for Indiana this year)
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Stop being positive  
Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2018 12:09 pm : link
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Now if we could get  
hd9009 : 1/15/2018 12:11 pm : link
Some linebackers.
Tomlinson is really on his way, could be a great player.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/15/2018 12:15 pm : link
Wish he and Snacks were more dangerous pass rushers, though.
RE: Tomlinson is really on his way, could be a great player.  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13790108 81_Great_Dane said:
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Wish he and Snacks were more dangerous pass rushers, though.


I'm not sure they should have to do it all -- OV and JPP need to be better contributors -- and a couple of LBs would help
What's really surprising is how a guy that size went from  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/15/2018 12:20 pm : link
playing really limited snaps to playing full time.
We really need another DE  
DennyInDenville : 1/15/2018 12:20 pm : link
Way to thin there.

Would help a lot to kick JPP inside and have a edge rusher for passing downs

Good to see Tomlinson showed something, I didn't notice him much.
Still early but  
Snacks : 1/15/2018 12:20 pm : link
it looks like this last draft brought in some kids who can play.

Now lets get some coaches/teachers in here that can get the most out of them.
Thought he had some nice showings toward the end of the season  
Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2018 12:24 pm : link
but man...we have got to find a way to get some pressure up the middle or edge from someone other than OV...

RE: Tomlinson is really on his way, could be a great player.  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/15/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13790108 81_Great_Dane said:
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Wish he and Snacks were more dangerous pass rushers, though.

I’m hoping we have at least 3 or 4 years of those two playing together. The other DT spot has been a revolving door since the days of Cofield. Which actually shows how good we’ve been at identifying good DTs in the draft.
RE: Tomlinson is really on his way, could be a great player.  
mrvax : 1/15/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13790108 81_Great_Dane said:
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Wish he and Snacks were more dangerous pass rushers, though.


In a 4-3, You need your DTs to stop the run and collapse the pocket. Our DEs are just not providing the penetration they are being paid for.
More rush on the edge would open things up for the middle.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/15/2018 12:33 pm : link
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RE: More rush on the edge would open things up for the middle.  
Snacks : 1/15/2018 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13790157 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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+1
Tomlinson was one of the top rookies per PFF throughout the year  
adamg : 1/15/2018 12:36 pm : link
He was virtually always on their list of top ten rookies until the final two weeks.
Snacks a more dangerous pass rusher?????  
Marianne at PSU : 1/15/2018 12:37 pm : link
If I see this guy chasing me, I'm scared. Not sure how he could be more dangerous! Just ask Tom Brady!
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Brady..not Brad...  
Marianne at PSU : 1/15/2018 12:38 pm : link
I hate when I make typos!
on an unrelated note..  
bLiTz 2k : 1/15/2018 1:59 pm : link
NBC during the eagles game made it a point to show how much they cut down on the snaps of their DL during the season to keep them fresh. (Graham i believe went from 90% of the snaps last year to only 62%)...depth and production at DE on this team could cure a lot of ills.
Excited about Tomlinson -- 100%  
SamdaGiantsFan : 1/15/2018 2:15 pm : link
But I'd be wary comparing him to Hankins based solely off stats. For all football players, but even more so for DT IMO, there is so much more that goes beyond the stat sheet.

For someone like Hankins, I like to go to other team boards to get a sense for how thy did. I found the below write-up from a footballsfuture post on the Colts page of that site ... this is from December 2017 recapping the defensive side of the ball for Indy...

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The other new bigman Ballard was able to find during the off-season was Jonathan Hankins, he was our 1 kinda "big slash" in FA last year and he's been a beast. He signed a 3 year 27 million dollar contract and he's been worth every penny. Hankins is another guy who plays better than his stat line, especially working as a DE in our 3-4. But despite the little number, he's been putting in work stuffing the run, getting in pass lanes and pushing the pocket. He'll definitely be a big piece to our D and has even shown off he can excel in a 4-3, putting up 7 sacks with the Giants in in 2014.


I always liked Hankins, and it seems like he had a good start with the Colts
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And another 320lb + playmaker at DT  
idiotsavant : 1/15/2018 2:15 pm : link
Could be a key. Glad DT Tomlinson is coming along quick. But this team needs a snacks2.0 and/or a gigantic space eating NT in the mix.

Could be as early as Rd 2 or 3 depending.
For all the other well documented draft pick flubs  
mfsd : 1/15/2018 2:28 pm : link
The Giants history of hitting on stud DTs is pretty remarkable.

Tomlinson off to a great start...Hankins and Linval Joseph are still strong players in the league...Barry Cofield turned in a nice career...Cornelius Griffin, Keith Hamilton

And then there was Marvin Austin...ug

RE: For all the other well documented draft pick flubs  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/15/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13790466 mfsd said:
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The Giants history of hitting on stud DTs is pretty remarkable.

Tomlinson off to a great start...Hankins and Linval Joseph are still strong players in the league...Barry Cofield turned in a nice career...Cornelius Griffin, Keith Hamilton

And then there was Marvin Austin...ug


Barry Cofield as well.
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