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La Canfora says Shurmur to the NYG

Big Rick in FL : 1/15/2018 12:42 pm
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@JasonLaCanfora: McDaniels is a virtual lock to be Colts next head coach. Patricia going to Detroit. Shurmur heading to NYG. Leaves AZ/TEN needing HCs...


He also broke the Gettleman news.
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RE: Hard for me to get excited  
gmen9892 : 1/15/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13790295 Beer Man said:
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about any of the remaining HC choices. All of them have poor track records as HCs or no HC experience at all. Where is the next Bill Parcells?


You are really putting that much stock into his 2 bad years in Cleveland? You know who else had a bad couple years in Cleveland? Belichick and EVERY other coach over the the past 30 years.
If its true  
superspynyg : 1/15/2018 2:22 pm : link
I just hope he brings a change in culture and attitude to this team. No more letting the bad seeds run the team.

Get in line or GTFO!

RE: Btw  
Big Rick in FL : 1/15/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13790317 bradshaw44 said:
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Pretty sure Lacanfora broke the Patricia to the Gmen crap last week.


No he didn't. He did break the Gettleman to the Giants as the GM though.
RE: RE: Btw  
The_Boss : 1/15/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13790452 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 13790317 bradshaw44 said:


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Pretty sure Lacanfora broke the Patricia to the Gmen crap last week.



No he didn't. He did break the Gettleman to the Giants as the GM though.


I could have broken that story the day Reese was canned.
RE: RE: Hard for me to get excited  
BigBlue4You09 : 1/15/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13790443 gmen9892 said:
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In comment 13790295 Beer Man said:


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about any of the remaining HC choices. All of them have poor track records as HCs or no HC experience at all. Where is the next Bill Parcells?



You are really putting that much stock into his 2 bad years in Cleveland? You know who else had a bad couple years in Cleveland? Belichick and EVERY other coach over the the past 30 years.


Exactly! And he was the most successful coach at CLE with the least amount of talent.
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arcarsenal : 1/15/2018 2:26 pm : link
I can't believe people are holding Shurmur's stint in CLE against him.

Go look at the players he had there, what that franchise has done since he left, and let me know how much better you expected him to do there.
RE: Dear DeFillipo supporters  
chopperhatch : 1/15/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13790386 twostepgiants said:
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Please see my thread DeFillipo Sucks- Resume Evaluated - ( New Window )


Dear twostepgiants,

please stop making threads. You're not good at it and you start too many of them.
I only want Shurmur if he  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/15/2018 2:33 pm : link
brings in an entire new staff. Seriously... Fuck all these holdover coaches that NYG seem to keep.
A Shurmur hiring would suggest...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2018 2:35 pm : link
taking a QB at #2 would be imminent.

If true, I could live with the selection. At least he's been a HC at the pro level and understands the infrastructure required.

RE: I only want Shurmur if he  
lax counsel : 1/15/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13790479 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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brings in an entire new staff. Seriously... Fuck all these holdover coaches that NYG seem to keep.


Spot on. Have to let him select his staff, no half measures. If he happens to like a hold over coach, so be it, but don't force one on him.

Also, like one of the other posters said, I think his solidifies qb at 2. I'm intrigued by the prospects of Shurmur and Darnold/Rosen.
LaCanfora adds a little bit  
jeff57 : 1/15/2018 2:41 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
Rappaport chimes in:  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/15/2018 2:42 pm : link
Source: The #Giants are targeting #Vikings OC Pat Shurmur as the top choice for their new head coach and he's expected to accept, if offered.
RE: Eh  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/15/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13790197 Josh in the City said:
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it's fine. At least he's probably the right guy to develop our rookie QB.

Aww, are you getting sad that it's not Patricia but resisting the urge to whine about it?
Rappaport  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/15/2018 2:43 pm : link
Source: The #Giants are targeting #Vikings OC Pat Shurmur as the top choice for their new head coach and he's expected to accept, if offered.
I think Shurmur  
Phil in LA : 1/15/2018 2:43 pm : link
is Fassel.
RE: I think Shurmur  
BrettNYG10 : 1/15/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13790508 Phil in LA said:
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is Fassel.


How so?

I also think Fassel was a good coach - not elite, but good.
RE: RE: La Canfora  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/15/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13790228 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 13790225 BeckShepEli said:


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is saying its too late in the game for McDaniels to go to Titans.

Him saying Shurmur to G-Men is his assumption. He said it yesterday on the pre game show. No concrete evidence that it is done



Maybe we still get McDaniels if it was agreed upon

Hopefully not.
yesterday I said  
UESBLUE : 1/15/2018 2:45 pm : link
Bruce Beck said McDaniels was Indy and Patricia Detroit so by process of elimination it would be Shurms. A
RE: I think Shurmur  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13790508 Phil in LA said:
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is Fassel.


Well, Fassel did get us to a SB so we could do worse.
No backtracking here  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/15/2018 2:47 pm : link
he sounds pretty certain its Shurm.
RE: Couple days ago it was Patricia, This morning it was McDaniels  
Peppers : 1/15/2018 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13790274 Heisenberg said:
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Now it's Shurmur. By dinner it will be Wilks.


Funny isn't it? They're all giving their best guesses while making the Giants look bad in the process.
Fassel  
Sammo85 : 1/15/2018 2:53 pm : link
Had some real good seasons with us. Wheels came off the last year but he gameplanned well as head coach.

He also built some tremendous staffs, far better than Coughlin ever could.
RE: LaCanfora adds a little bit  
Diver_Down : 1/15/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13790501 jeff57 said:
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Shurmur is a virtual lock to take the reins of the Giants under new GM Dave Gettleman.


Virtual Lock is fairly certain terms. I hope it holds true.
RE: RE: RE: La Canfora  
DonQuixote : 1/15/2018 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13790514 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13790228 Mr. Nickels said:


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In comment 13790225 BeckShepEli said:


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is saying its too late in the game for McDaniels to go to Titans.

Him saying Shurmur to G-Men is his assumption. He said it yesterday on the pre game show. No concrete evidence that it is done



Maybe we still get McDaniels if it was agreed upon


Hopefully not.


Not knowing much about any of these candidates, McDaniels is the one who rubbed me the wrong way. I liked the Patricia image, but who knows, and can't argue with this choice at all. Let's go...
Please dont tell me this means  
Rflairr : 1/15/2018 3:11 pm : link
Spags is staying
Snore  
Route 9 : 1/15/2018 3:15 pm : link
Great choice to get the fans pumped up
David Diehl s concern  
joeinpa : 1/15/2018 3:16 pm : link
With Shurmur is bringing a West Coast offense that has only been successful indoors, and not so much in Philly, to MetLife.
Michael Rapaport says the same  
DennyInDenville : 1/15/2018 3:16 pm : link
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Source: The #Giants are targeting #Vikings OC Pat Shurmur as the top choice for their new head coach and he's expected to accept, if offered.
2:41 PM Jan 15, 2018
Also wouldn't mind  
Giantfan in skinland : 1/15/2018 3:18 pm : link
if his DC choice is someone who has spent some time in Minny under Zimmer. Top to bottom, I like how that team has been built/run the past few years. Not a bad model to follow.
RE: David Diehl s concern  
Rflairr : 1/15/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13790662 joeinpa said:
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With Shurmur is bringing a West Coast offense that has only been successful indoors, and not so much in Philly, to MetLife.


I dont like Eli in that offense. But Its not an offense that throws the ball downfield deep all the time. So I dont understand why he thinks playing outside is an issue with it
Shurmur's offense  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/15/2018 3:24 pm : link
wont really be for Eli moving forward.
RE: Shurmur's offense  
Breeze_94 : 1/15/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13790702 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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wont really be for Eli moving forward.


Why can't it be? He got a career year out of Bradford who is not a mobile guy in 2016. 20 TD, 5 Int, and 71% despite a horrible OL and learning the system on the fly.
RE: David Diehl s concern  
giants#1 : 1/15/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13790662 joeinpa said:
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With Shurmur is bringing a West Coast offense that has only been successful indoors, and not so much in Philly, to MetLife.


2013: 27.6 pts/g - 4th in NFL
2014: 29.6 pts/g - 3rd in NFL
2015: 23.6 pts/g - 13th in NFL

That's not successful?
RE: RE: Hard for me to get excited  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/15/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13790313 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13790295 Beer Man said:


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about any of the remaining HC choices. All of them have poor track records as HCs or no HC experience at all. Where is the next Bill Parcells?



Guess you wouldn't have been excited about Parcells and his one 3-8 season at Air Force in 1983.

+1
RE: David Diehl s concern  
arcarsenal : 1/15/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13790662 joeinpa said:
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With Shurmur is bringing a West Coast offense that has only been successful indoors, and not so much in Philly, to MetLife.


Shurmur was the OC for two top 5 offenses in PHI, I don't understand this comment.
RE: RE: Shurmur's offense  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/15/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13790727 Breeze_94 said:
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In comment 13790702 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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wont really be for Eli moving forward.



Why can't it be? He got a career year out of Bradford who is not a mobile guy in 2016. 20 TD, 5 Int, and 71% despite a horrible OL and learning the system on the fly.


Just an opinion, I think this is Eli's last year with the Giants. Of course, you never know.
RE: I thought Tennessee  
MotownGIANTS : 1/15/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13790196 Mike in NY said:
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Extended their HC


Something happen ... it went south
RE: RE: Shurmur's offense  
Modus Operandi : 1/15/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13790727 Breeze_94 said:
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In comment 13790702 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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wont really be for Eli moving forward.



Why can't it be? He got a career year out of Bradford who is not a mobile guy in 2016. 20 TD, 5 Int, and 71% despite a horrible OL and learning the system on the fly.


WCO doesn't require a QB to be mobile. It requires them to be accurate. Which Eli is not.
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur's offense  
BleedBlue : 1/15/2018 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13790798 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 13790702 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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wont really be for Eli moving forward.



Why can't it be? He got a career year out of Bradford who is not a mobile guy in 2016. 20 TD, 5 Int, and 71% despite a horrible OL and learning the system on the fly.



WCO doesn't require a QB to be mobile. It requires them to be accurate. Which Eli is not.



unless youre runnkng the fucking wishbone or an option offense, your QB needs to be accurate.
Shurmur offense  
TMS : 1/15/2018 4:04 pm : link
and Spags defense works for me down the line . Especially with DG picking the personnel. Very optimistic . ELI still has a few more years and the offense just needs a few pieces. 11/5 two years ago and a lot of fire power coming back back from injury. Bad year but we saw some big play players. Gettlteman is a top personnel evaluator especially for team needs. High draft picks and FA deals when used right can be game changers..
Does anyone really think ELI  
TMS : 1/15/2018 4:09 pm : link
cannot adjust to A new offense after all these years . Nonsense. He will fit like a glove if he still has the arm ?
In regard to Diehl s comment:  
joeinpa : 1/15/2018 4:23 pm : link
I have no problem with any of the candidates. Just repeating what I heard Diehl say on his Sunday morning show, on the WFAN.

Don t think I misheard him because it caught my attention. If I did and someone corrects me, I apologize.
Odell  
Breeze_94 : 1/15/2018 4:32 pm : link
On twitter seems happy about the hiring. Dont know the connection but I guess thats a good sign.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/15/2018 4:35 pm : link

Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
8m8 minutes ago

Tom Rock Retweeted Tom Rock

NFL Network reported it first. A source confirmed the expectation to @Newsday on Monday but cautioned that minds can change and nothing is official.
Which indoor team  
arniefez : 1/15/2018 4:36 pm : link
Did Bill Walsh coach? Or Andy Reid? Holmgren did ok with that offense in Green Bay.
RE: Which indoor team  
Rflairr : 1/15/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13790947 arniefez said:
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Did Bill Walsh coach? Or Andy Reid? Holmgren did ok with that offense in Green Bay.


Peterson is doing pretty good with it this season. But I'm trying to figure out why the weather would have anything to do with that offense. Its not a offense that looks to throw deep all the time.
RE: RE: Dear DeFillipo supporters  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/15/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13790472 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13790386 twostepgiants said:


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Please see my thread DeFillipo Sucks- Resume Evaluated - ( New Window )



Dear twostepgiants,

please stop making threads. You're not good at it and you start too many of them.

I endorse this message.
RE: RE: RE: Dear DeFillipo supporters  
Brown Recluse : 1/15/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13790985 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13790472 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 13790386 twostepgiants said:


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Please see my thread DeFillipo Sucks- Resume Evaluated - ( New Window )



Dear twostepgiants,

please stop making threads. You're not good at it and you start too many of them.


I endorse this message.


I'm glad BBI stopped telling people to kill themselves and now simply asks them to stop making threads. We've come a long way.
Chopper, Gatorade  
twostepgiants : 1/15/2018 5:22 pm : link
Someone made a thread and I disagree with their opinion

Wah.
RE: RE: RE: Btw  
paesan98 : 1/15/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13790454 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13790452 Big Rick in FL said:


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In comment 13790317 bradshaw44 said:


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Pretty sure Lacanfora broke the Patricia to the Gmen crap last week.



No he didn't. He did break the Gettleman to the Giants as the GM though.



I could have broken that story the day Reese was canned.


Perhaps you should have. Maybe some of the more idiotic and asinine posts re: hiring a new GM might never have made it to The Corner Forum.
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