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great read on Shurmur

GiantGrit : 1/15/2018 3:48 pm
Was shared on Big Blue View. Enjoy.
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that  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/15/2018 3:56 pm : link
is a good article, but I have to admit the emphasis on footwork is reminiscent of McAdoo (WCO thing). Good news is that Eli and Webb will already be familiar with the concepts.
And now all the fluff articles will be written  
Brown Recluse : 1/15/2018 3:57 pm : link
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Very good  
SHO'NUFF : 1/15/2018 3:58 pm : link
read. Thanks for sharing.
RE: And now all the fluff articles will be written  
Diver_Down : 1/15/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13790829 Brown Recluse said:
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? It was written in Sept. 2017.
Great find  
Jay in Toronto : 1/15/2018 4:00 pm : link
Thanks.

In his flexibility he seems the anti-Mcadoo.
Great find  
Jay in Toronto : 1/15/2018 4:01 pm : link
Thanks.

In his flexibility he seems the anti-Macadoo.
RE: Great find  
BleedBlue : 1/15/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13790838 Jay in Toronto said:
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Thanks.

In his flexibility he seems the anti-Mcadoo.


agreed. my biggest takeaway was that he is open minded and does what fits his players. he isnt a do whst your told type coach and thats good. you meed to be able to adjust and scheme to players you have on roster
Music to my ears  
robbieballs2003 : 1/15/2018 4:11 pm : link
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“He’s a guy where, if you don’t like something, just tell him,” Stefon Diggs said. “Not just, ‘I don’t like this or that,’ but tell him why you don’t like it. If it’s not something that seems fit for everybody, that we aren’t going to do it. You want everybody to be comfortable because it won’t work if we’re on a different page. The open lines of communication keeps everyone on the same page, no surprises out there.”

“It’s not the plays, it’s the players,” Shurmur added. ”We say that behind the scenes frequently. ‘What does Diggs do well? What does Adam do well? How do we get the ball to Kyle?’ We need to do a better job of that.”

Think Shurmur, ELI, Webb will be  
TMS : 1/15/2018 4:16 pm : link
the best of BUDS . All on the same page about the QB game and FB. Big plus for us.
Excellent article, hype-free.  
CT Charlie : 1/15/2018 4:18 pm : link
What caught my eye was the comment about great West Coast offenses having multi-faceted running backs.

So does Schurmer decide Webb can run things and lobby for Saquon Barkley? Or does he go after someone mobile like Mayfield, whom Mara/Gettleman might oppose?

one of more important things  
bc4life : 1/15/2018 4:19 pm : link
talked about focusing on what a player does well
listening to players
and being open to new ideas
Also, very interesting.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/15/2018 4:19 pm : link
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Historically speaking, the great West Coast offenses have had top-notch, all-purpose running backs. Walsh had Roger Craig, Mike Shanahan had Terrell Davis, Andy Reid has had Brian Westbrook, LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles.

Now Shurmur has Dalvin Cook.

After three games, Cook is No. 2 in the NFL in rushing behind Andy Reid’s running back Kareem Hunt. He also grabbed five passes for 72 yards vs. the Bucs, including one seven-yard reception where Cook lined up as a wide receiver.

GM Rick Spielman traded up in the draft to pick Cook ...
That's More Information on Concepts  
clatterbuck : 1/15/2018 4:35 pm : link
and coaching philosophy that I ever recall hearing from McAdoo. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but there seems a willingness to adapt to personnel as well as opposing defenses. Encouraging. As an aside, his uncle Fritz Shurmur's Rams' defenses used to kill us back in the day.
RE: Music to my ears  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13790872 robbieballs2003 said:
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“He’s a guy where, if you don’t like something, just tell him,” Stefon Diggs said. “Not just, ‘I don’t like this or that,’ but tell him why you don’t like it. If it’s not something that seems fit for everybody, that we aren’t going to do it. You want everybody to be comfortable because it won’t work if we’re on a different page. The open lines of communication keeps everyone on the same page, no surprises out there.”

“It’s not the plays, it’s the players,” Shurmur added. ”We say that behind the scenes frequently. ‘What does Diggs do well? What does Adam do well? How do we get the ball to Kyle?’ We need to do a better job of that.”


HC, wouldn't that be a switch! It's not the plays it's the players
RE: Also, very interesting.  
larryflower37 : 1/15/2018 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13790902 robbieballs2003 said:
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Historically speaking, the great West Coast offenses have had top-notch, all-purpose running backs. Walsh had Roger Craig, Mike Shanahan had Terrell Davis, Andy Reid has had Brian Westbrook, LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles.

Now Shurmur has Dalvin Cook.

After three games, Cook is No. 2 in the NFL in rushing behind Andy Reid’s running back Kareem Hunt. He also grabbed five passes for 72 yards vs. the Bucs, including one seven-yard reception where Cook lined up as a wide receiver.

GM Rick Spielman traded up in the draft to pick Cook ...



Saquon Barkley at #2 ???
He obviously fits that complete back.
After reading this I could see them sticking with Eli for 2 more years and moving to Webb. They are that smart and film room QB's that Shurmur likes.
RE: Excellent article, hype-free.  
KeoweeFan : 1/15/2018 6:25 pm : link
In comment 13790899 CT Charlie said:
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What caught my eye was the comment about great West Coast offenses having multi-faceted running backs.

So does Schurmer decide Webb can run things and lobby for Saquon Barkley? Or does he go after someone mobile like Mayfield, whom Mara/Gettleman might oppose?

Agreed!
Schurmer's ability to develop QBs who are less than the top 3 out of college (Keenum was undrafted) could just as well signal that Gettleman and Mara are NOT intending to go for QB at number 2 and instead are either planning to trade down and get a QB in a later round or will simply use #2 for BPA.
In either of those two scenarios getting the most out of Eli, Webb and a lower round QB in 2018 will be critical.

BTW, even though he is not "spectacular", Gallman showed at Clemson that he is multi-faceted.
Fassel  
Phil in LA : 1/15/2018 6:31 pm : link
isn't part of the Walsh tree. He was at Stanford after Walsh.
RE: Fassel  
Vanzetti : 1/15/2018 6:55 pm : link
In comment 13791153 Phil in LA said:
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isn't part of the Walsh tree. He was at Stanford after Walsh.


He is part of the Ray Handley tree
Has it been noted  
sphinx : 1/15/2018 7:08 pm : link
that Shurmur's son, Kyle, is a QB at Vanderbilt going into his senior year?
Good Read  
DavidinBMNY : 1/15/2018 7:13 pm : link
Thank you. The diverse experiences Shurmur has had are encouraging.
Actually,  
Phil in LA : 1/15/2018 7:17 pm : link
Parcells hired Fassel for the Giants not long before he jumped ship.
McAdoo's stubbornness was one of my biggest  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2018 7:20 pm : link
gripes with him. Shurmur seems like the polar opposite. I want coaches who can adapt.
Great  
AcidTest : 1/15/2018 7:35 pm : link
article. Thanks.
Why was it considered a no-no...  
Racer : 1/16/2018 10:26 am : link
..to throw the slant out of shotgun before Andy Reid did it?
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