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Assuming it's Shurmur: who do you like as his OC and DC?

GFAN52 : 1/15/2018 4:03 pm
OC - John DeFilippo
DC - Kris Richard
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Can't imagine Spags returning...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2018 8:21 pm : link
I think we have an entirely new staff in '18.
RE: Can't imagine Spags returning...  
GFAN52 : 1/15/2018 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13791283 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think we have an entirely new staff in '18.


I sure hope so. Spags has had his time here, and I'm ready for a change. I think the players would respond to a new coaching staff much better as well. Clean slate for everyone.
C'mon, with the Rex Ryan Stuff,  
clatterbuck : 1/15/2018 8:28 pm : link
he destroyed the defense in Buffalo and he's a major asshole. He's a loudmouth media whore who would undermine the new head coach as soon as he walks in the building. A Buddy Ryan spawn does not work for the Giants. Never as in not ever.
Only thing crazier than the red ryan talk  
djm : 1/15/2018 8:55 pm : link
Is spags talk. Love you spags, but time to go!

And it wasn't two of the worst defenses of all time that spags presided over, it's three, if you count this season as one of the worst. I do. Don't show me stats. Anyone associated with this defense besides a select few should be ashamed. Spags didn't help this year or 2015 on in New Orleans. Not even trying to roast the guy but he hasnt gotten nearly enough heat. I'm not saying spags is terrible but I know for certain that when shit goes south his defenses fold like a cheap suit. And that's a fact. There are DCs out there that can do more.
RE: C'mon, with the Rex Ryan Stuff,  
giantsfaninphilly : 1/15/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 13791290 clatterbuck said:
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he destroyed the defense in Buffalo and he's a major asshole. He's a loudmouth media whore who would undermine the new head coach as soon as he walks in the building. A Buddy Ryan spawn does not work for the Giants. Never as in not ever.


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How does Spags survive?  
trueblueinpw : 1/15/2018 10:23 pm : link
The defense wasn’t just horrible on the field this past season, they were all messed up off the field too. The defense was disgraceful this past season. Even after the season we still had LC running his fucking mouth. You can’t fire the entire defensive unit but you sure as heck can fire all the coaches. I’m surprised Spags wasn’t sent packing already. Definitely do not want him back. I don’t want any coaches back from McAdoof’s staff. Not a single one.

Hey, I hear Joey Porter might be available. It would be fun to see him coaching up Eli Apple and Landon “I like player coaches” Collins.

RE: What about spags plus  
Boy Cord : 1/15/2018 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13790916 idiotsavant said:
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All new D position coaches and a few new starters? DT,lb, de...


Enough with Spags already. It’s time for him to go. His defense sucked last year and several of his players were out of control.
No more Spags.  
prdave73 : 1/16/2018 1:01 am : link
They need to clean house. Lets hope if Shurmur gets the HC job, that he hires his entire staff. If he doesn't, well unfortunately Mara has his hands on all the decisions which is bad.
Might want to come to terms with Spags  
Peppers : 1/16/2018 1:04 am : link
Sticking around at least another year.
+1  
Powerclean765 : 1/16/2018 1:08 am : link
But it's weird all his position coaches got away.....are Merritt and McGovern still available? Graham is gone.
RE: I'm good with Spags  
Milton : 1/16/2018 6:17 am : link
In comment 13790931 Blue Racer said:
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When his roster is healthy and somewhat talented, he's as good as anyone.
It could also be said that when the roster is healthy and somewhat talented, anyone is as good as he is.

The key is to find a DC whose defense doesn't become historically inept when adversity hits. Someone who can get the most out of mediocre talent and make the right adjustments to his schemes when the inevitable injuries occur.
RE: RE: What about spags plus  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 7:40 am : link
In comment 13791423 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13790916 idiotsavant said:


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All new D position coaches and a few new starters? DT,lb, de...



Enough with Spags already. It’s time for him to go. His defense sucked last year and several of his players were out of control.


THANK YOU!
Not sure I have enough info to really make a top pick  
Andy in Halifax : 1/16/2018 8:42 am : link
But I have admired Darrell Bevell's work and think he would be a good candidate for OC. Good with QB's, Seattle was done in by a terrible OL that limited their offense.

Would make our draft selection even more interesting - Bevell was the guy that wanted, and got, Russell Wilson.
Munchak For OC  
DeepBlueJint : 1/16/2018 12:04 pm : link
Del Rio for DC. Grim for OL Coach.
Defillippo  
TMS : 1/20/2018 11:28 pm : link
is an intriguing pick as OC. Young smart an innovative and they have worked together before. Think Spags gets the DC spot unless Edwards wants to come.
RE: RE: I'm good with Spags  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2018 5:29 am : link
In comment 13791477 Milton said:
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In comment 13790931 Blue Racer said:


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When his roster is healthy and somewhat talented, he's as good as anyone.

It could also be said that when the roster is healthy and somewhat talented, anyone is as good as he is.

The key is to find a DC whose defense doesn't become historically inept when adversity hits. Someone who can get the most out of mediocre talent and make the right adjustments to his schemes when the inevitable injuries occur.


That absolutely is the key. Except those guys don't become available because you're describing a top of the line defensive coordinator. The best way to get one is to make him your head coach. Or try your looking taking a chance on a young and upcoming coach and take the lumps of a learning process. But people don't have patience for that.
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