What's the point of them at this point when agreements are still being reached in spite of the rules? It seems ridiculous that teams cannot just execute an agreement and must wait until the playoffs end.
Unless I specifically know what they are it is hard to criticize them. The rules are there to prtoect the teams in the playoffs. And, just like a player, how can a guy sign two contracts at the same time? What is wrong with a handshake agreement? Do you want the playoff team to get fired so they can sign with another team?
What don't you understand?
The NFL should allow assistant coaches to come to an official agreement to be a head coach of another team, while in the playoffs. If they can interview, then they should be able to agree to a job offer. Instead you have all the BS of "if they get the offer, then they would take it". It is silly.
RE: RE: Can you guys elaborate on why they are dumb instead
What don't you understand?
The NFL should allow assistant coaches to come to an official agreement to be a head coach of another team, while in the playoffs. If they can interview, then they should be able to agree to a job offer. Instead you have all the BS of "if they get the offer, then they would take it". It is silly.
Isn't this what happened? Don't the Giants and Shurmur have a "handshake agreement"?
but I'd assume the negotiating process can potentially be very distracting. Then once that's completed, they have the task of building their staff...and there's nothing to stop them from beginning that process while their current team is trying to win a championship.
I think the rules are in place to prevent all of that. Makes sense to me.
And the "if he gets an offer he'll accept it" line
posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
Head coach candidates should not be allowed to interview
The NFL owners and many head coaches coaches did not want distractions during their playoff runs - the distractions include interviewing for, or being hired for, coaching positions outside of their current team. the distraction affects focus to prepare for and win playoff games.
The assistant coaches on the playoff teams did not like those rules. Those coaches felt they were being denied opportunities for new coaching responsibilities and positions because they were in the playoffs. Other coaches could interview, but the playoff coaches could not.
So, a compromise is made. The playoff team coaches can interview during the playoffs, but cannot accept any job until they are out of the playoffs.
If the Giants were in the playoffs, and the teetering balance of winning games versus losing them was interrupted by other teams already out of the playoffs, scrambling for a place to interview the coach du jour, us Giants fans would be pretty upset.
RE: personally, I think the old rule was better......
If the Giants were in the playoffs, and the teetering balance of winning games versus losing them was interrupted by other teams already out of the playoffs, scrambling for a place to interview the coach du jour, us Giants fans would be pretty upset.
There are rules and times they can interview. It is not fair to coaches or teams if they have to wait 4 weeks to interview and get an agreement for a job. Especially if three teams are waiting on one guy and miss a chance to hire an alternate coach.
posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
Why can't they sign it? That is the issue. It should be able to be "official". Now both sides are "playing games". If the giants offer me the job, I'll take it. Stop with that nonsense already.
there's a valid point to the rules (not poaching a coach while he's still in the playoffs), but it's tough to prevent it from happening in real life, and either side can reneg on a handshake deal, plus, in today's instant gratification world, the current process can be just as distracting.
To me, if players are under contract til the end of the league year, so too should the coaches. Why is a coach on a playoff eliminated team available immediately, but not a player?
and well in the NFL, that is why they do it as it is currently done in the league. They sill get it done thru
'backhanded' channels....The archaic rule of the extra point MUST be kicked has to go though. The game was over
on the last play of the Vikes game, an amazing play, people
are running around all over the place....the Saints are
in the locker room, the PUNTER and a few others come back out to play defense....Get rid of that rule, the hell
with the point spreads.
What if they change the rules in the opposite direction? No interviews of any coaching candidates who are currently under contract with another team until after the Super Bowl, even if the team has been eliminated. Perhaps a 2 or 3 week hiring window immediately following the Super Bowl. Then make prohibitive tampering rules (loss of multiple first round picks) for any team that is caught trying to circumvent the rule.
I don't know if it would work (or if I would be for it in the first place) but it would certainly level the playing field.
What if they change the rules in the opposite direction? No interviews of any coaching candidates who are currently under contract with another team until after the Super Bowl, even if the team has been eliminated. Perhaps a 2 or 3 week hiring window immediately following the Super Bowl. Then make prohibitive tampering rules (loss of multiple first round picks) for any team that is caught trying to circumvent the rule.
I don't know if it would work (or if I would be for it in the first place) but it would certainly level the playing field.
Just for the record, I think this would be the best thing to do, but
if this rule were to be put in place, you would have teams announcing entire coaching staff hires at midnight on February 5th. Tampering will take place not matter what the rules are.
posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
Why can't they sign it? That is the issue. It should be able to be "official". Now both sides are "playing games". If the giants offer me the job, I'll take it. Stop with that nonsense already.
Dude, he is under contract with Minnesota. How is he going to sign a contract for another team? Do players sign contracts from multiple teams? It is like marriage. If you are married and marry someone else that new marriage is null and void. Come on.
Are they skirted on occasion (or more often than that)? Absolutely, but you don't want a high profile coach announcing his next job while his current team is preparing to play in a conference championship or SB. His contract ends when his team's season ends, and he cannot sign a contract before that. I think that's a pretty good rule.
NFL is a mess!
What don't you understand?
The NFL should allow assistant coaches to come to an official agreement to be a head coach of another team, while in the playoffs. If they can interview, then they should be able to agree to a job offer. Instead you have all the BS of "if they get the offer, then they would take it". It is silly.
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of just saying they are dumb?
What don't you understand?
The NFL should allow assistant coaches to come to an official agreement to be a head coach of another team, while in the playoffs. If they can interview, then they should be able to agree to a job offer. Instead you have all the BS of "if they get the offer, then they would take it". It is silly.
Isn't this what happened? Don't the Giants and Shurmur have a "handshake agreement"?
I think the rules are in place to prevent all of that. Makes sense to me.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
This is really the only way to keep things cleaner. End one season, start the next.
The assistant coaches on the playoff teams did not like those rules. Those coaches felt they were being denied opportunities for new coaching responsibilities and positions because they were in the playoffs. Other coaches could interview, but the playoff coaches could not.
So, a compromise is made. The playoff team coaches can interview during the playoffs, but cannot accept any job until they are out of the playoffs.
Both sides win, and both sides lose. Compromise.
There are rules and times they can interview. It is not fair to coaches or teams if they have to wait 4 weeks to interview and get an agreement for a job. Especially if three teams are waiting on one guy and miss a chance to hire an alternate coach.
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posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
Why can't they sign it? That is the issue. It should be able to be "official". Now both sides are "playing games". If the giants offer me the job, I'll take it. Stop with that nonsense already.
To me, if players are under contract til the end of the league year, so too should the coaches. Why is a coach on a playoff eliminated team available immediately, but not a player?
'backhanded' channels....The archaic rule of the extra point MUST be kicked has to go though. The game was over
on the last play of the Vikes game, an amazing play, people
are running around all over the place....the Saints are
in the locker room, the PUNTER and a few others come back out to play defense....Get rid of that rule, the hell
with the point spreads.
It should basically work like free agency...you wouldn't want other teams negotiating with players on your team during the season, why the coaches?
I don't know if it would work (or if I would be for it in the first place) but it would certainly level the playing field.
I don't know if it would work (or if I would be for it in the first place) but it would certainly level the playing field.
Just for the record, I think this would be the best thing to do, but
if this rule were to be put in place, you would have teams announcing entire coaching staff hires at midnight on February 5th. Tampering will take place not matter what the rules are.
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posts saying the NFL changed the rules last March to allow the coach and team to make a handshake agreement. So coaches and teams can make an agreement, just not sign it.
Exactly. So, I don't understand the issue with the rules.
Why can't they sign it? That is the issue. It should be able to be "official". Now both sides are "playing games". If the giants offer me the job, I'll take it. Stop with that nonsense already.
Dude, he is under contract with Minnesota. How is he going to sign a contract for another team? Do players sign contracts from multiple teams? It is like marriage. If you are married and marry someone else that new marriage is null and void. Come on.
Wouldn't that resolve everything?