what could the Giants get in return for Davis Webb?

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an 8th round pick ;)

is at its lowest.

@ a minimum.

of value for him, assuming he played well.

that didn't happen.

on a 2-9 team.

He has no trade value.

We had 100 of these threads when Nassib was here. It was the same thing. He didn't have any trade value nor does Webb.

and then didn't draft him in either of those rounds? Regardless, his value started at a 3rd rounder since that is where he was taken. It's pretty safe to say that no other team has evaluated his practice work, so I don't know how it would have gone up.

So best case scenario? A 3rd round pick. But likely lower.

Denver= This years first round and Von Miller
Jets= This years first rounder and next years first

if there's a team out there that really loves him. Brett Favre had hardly played in Atlanta, and played badly when he did, but then Green Bay traded a first for him (Though he'd been a longtime starter in college, which Webb was not).

Realistically, though, right now Webb probably wouldn't fetch a pick as good as the one the Giants used to get him. He wasn't a longtime starter in college, he never lined up under center at Cal, and he's never been in a real NFL game.

In 2020.

zero

If a team had him graded well coming out last year they may give up a last rounder. If we do pick a QB, which I hope we do not, it may be worth making a few calls.

Jussayin.

don't open that can ...

A ham sandwich

proof that the Giants are drafting a QB at #2

In comment 13792617 Slade said:

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Jussayin.

You're a real piece of #2, troll.

a fifth. Somebody would want him for his work ethic and arm strength. The problem is that it's a QB rich draft. Webb is nonetheless likely better than most if not all of the day three QBs who would be taken. He's also had a year in an NFL system. But it's pointless to trade him. He has more value to us than a fifth round pick, even if we take a QB at #2.

Eli
Webb
Rookie first rounder (Allen/Mayfield)

OR

Rookie first rounder (Darnold/Rosen)
Webb

how many peanut butter cups could we get? Of course, I don't actually own his rights so I wouldn't get the peanut butter cups but maybe the Mara's and Tisch's would share.

coming back for more

If a team really liked him coming out of Cal, the Giants' handling of the Eli Manning situation wouldn't change that, especially since Webb figured to need a redshirt year anyway. Look at Brett Favre's rookie season in Atlanta: 4 attempts, no completions, 2 interceptions and a passer rating of zero. That didn't deter Green Bay from trading their first-round pick (#19 overall) in 1992 for the QB they had targeted at #35 a year earlier. In their view, a year of pro experience - and healing from multiple injuries - had enhanced Favre's value.

The Packers were on the other side of a similar situation with Mark Brunell: they drafted him in the fifth round, then traded him to Jacksonville for third- and fifth-round picks after two seasons in which he threw a total of 27 passes, completing 12 for 95 yards.

The problem with Webb isn't that he hasn't played. It's that we have no idea whether anyone really wanted him a year ago. What we do know is that most teams passed on him at least twice.

The teams next franchise QB

In comment 13792686 Big Blue Blogger said:

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If a team really liked him coming out of Cal, the Giants' handling of the Eli Manning situation wouldn't change that, especially since Webb figured to need a redshirt year anyway. Look at Brett Favre's rookie season in Atlanta: 4 attempts, no completions, 2 interceptions and a passer rating of zero. That didn't deter Green Bay from trading their first-round pick (#19 overall) in 1992 for the QB they had targeted at #35 a year earlier. In their view, a year of pro experience - and healing from multiple injuries - had enhanced Favre's value. The Packers were on the other side of a similar situation with Mark Brunell: they drafted him in the fifth round, then traded him to Jacksonville for third- and fifth-round picks after two seasons in which he threw a total of 27 passes, completing 12 for 95 yards. The problem with Webb isn't that he hasn't played. It's that we have no idea whether anyone really wanted him a year ago. What we do know is that most teams passed on him at least twice.

I'm with you on your thinking....I think he has value.

We can probably pick in between where Houston and Kansas City will pick in the first round.

In comment 13792585 Mr. Bungle said:

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on a 2-9 team.

Means nothing. The team made it clear when they drafted him, that 2017 would be a Red Shirt year and he probably wouldn't see the field. The only thing that changed was that the team performance fell off a cliff, and as a results the cries to see what Webb started. Geno was brought in as the #2 because the team thought they would go deep into the playoffs and wanted an experienced veteran backup.

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Steak dinner

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Package him with the #1 we're getting from NO, and there's definitely a deal to be made.

No experience, nothing to go on. Plus there are a lot of QB's coming out this year and a great crop of QB's at the senior bowl.

His value would creep in once these QB's are off the board, which likely means 4th round at best. Then depending on the pre-season and what role he has may impact his value.

I don't think this is a viable discussion until day 3 of the draft at best.

7th if he makes a roster

kidding about playing forever, See Ya ". Well than Kraft might have interest in him and every other QB as he watches Little Bill go out the door with his fishing poles!

why wouldn't they take him in the 1st or then definitely the 2nd or if they were among the 22 teams in the 3rd round before the Giants picked?

I'm skeptical anyone had a measurably higher grade on him than where he was taken.

He has no value until he plays numerous games.
According to the metrics Webb, Darnold and Rosen are basically the same guy.
Trade down , get OL/DL/LB help. Give Webb considerable playing time.
If you look at QB's remaining - 3of 4 were late round picks.
Build interior , see if Webb can play , Is Eli willing to help future?

Julio jones. Plus an additional first rounder. Seriously, this guy couldn't hit the ocean with a football standing on the beach. His accuracy is not NFL standard.

Also, no team had a first or second round grade on him or he would have been a first or second round pick. And since Jerry Reese was a gm who consistently reaches for players, I'd imagine no team had a third round grade either except for our brain trust. He's more likely than not going to end up like the vast majority of NFL mid round qbs- a clipboard holder. He's not Brett Farve and he isn't comparable to this years crop of qbs. Why would anyone give up anything for him when they can draft their own versions in round 6 or 7.

In comment 13792799 pjcas18 said:

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why wouldn't they take him in the 1st or then definitely the 2nd or if they were among the 22 teams in the 3rd round before the Giants picked? I'm skeptical anyone had a measurably higher grade on him than where he was taken.

because they might not have needed a QB.

In comment 13792887 Andy in Boston said:

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In comment 13792799 pjcas18 said: Quote: why wouldn't they take him in the 1st or then definitely the 2nd or if they were among the 22 teams in the 3rd round before the Giants picked? I'm skeptical anyone had a measurably higher grade on him than where he was taken. because they might not have needed a QB.

I doubt it. Not saying it's impossible, what do I know? but I doubt it.

For example the Patriots drafted Ryan Mallett in the 3rd round in 2011 because he represented "value" based on where they had him rated. Clearly they didn't need a QB. They drafted Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brisett in the 2nd and 3rd round two years apart based on where they had the players rated.

Teams often take QB's they have rated highly if they fall to them even if they don't need a QB.

I'm skeptical that a team had a 1st round grade on Davis and he dropped to the bottom third of the 3rd round.

In comment 13792905 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13792887 Andy in Boston said: Quote: In comment 13792799 pjcas18 said: Quote: why wouldn't they take him in the 1st or then definitely the 2nd or if they were among the 22 teams in the 3rd round before the Giants picked? I'm skeptical anyone had a measurably higher grade on him than where he was taken. because they might not have needed a QB. I doubt it. Not saying it's impossible, what do I know? but I doubt it. For example the Patriots drafted Ryan Mallett in the 3rd round in 2011 because he represented "value" based on where they had him rated. Clearly they didn't need a QB. They drafted Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brisett in the 2nd and 3rd round two years apart based on where they had the players rated. Teams often take QB's they have rated highly if they fall to them even if they don't need a QB. I'm skeptical that a team had a 1st round grade on Davis and he dropped to the bottom third of the 3rd round.

I'm skeptical that anyone but Reese/Ross had him rated in the upper 3rd Round

But why is it so hard to believe they could get a 3rd rounder for Webb? He was a 3rd rounder and sat for a year. That's not an indictment nor is it a plus. If a team liked him before last year's draft they probably still like him now. But it takes two.

Maybe a 7th or 6th round pick. This guy didn't even beat out Geno Smith or get any playing time on the 2nd worst team in the league. Another bad pick by Jerry Reach.

Garrapolo went for a 2nd. A team is going to give up a 3 for Davis Webb?? Come on

In comment 13792692 Andy in Boston said:

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In comment 13792686 Big Blue Blogger said: Quote: If a team really liked him coming out of Cal, the Giants' handling of the Eli Manning situation wouldn't change that, especially since Webb figured to need a redshirt year anyway. Look at Brett Favre's rookie season in Atlanta: 4 attempts, no completions, 2 interceptions and a passer rating of zero. That didn't deter Green Bay from trading their first-round pick (#19 overall) in 1992 for the QB they had targeted at #35 a year earlier. In their view, a year of pro experience - and healing from multiple injuries - had enhanced Favre's value. The Packers were on the other side of a similar situation with Mark Brunell: they drafted him in the fifth round, then traded him to Jacksonville for third- and fifth-round picks after two seasons in which he threw a total of 27 passes, completing 12 for 95 yards. The problem with Webb isn't that he hasn't played. It's that we have no idea whether anyone really wanted him a year ago. What we do know is that most teams passed on him at least twice. I'm with you on your thinking....I think he has value.

Is Webb better than Bortles ?

In comment 13793163 NikkiMac said:

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In comment 13792692 Andy in Boston said: Quote: In comment 13792686 Big Blue Blogger said: Quote: If a team really liked him coming out of Cal, the Giants' handling of the Eli Manning situation wouldn't change that, especially since Webb figured to need a redshirt year anyway. Look at Brett Favre's rookie season in Atlanta: 4 attempts, no completions, 2 interceptions and a passer rating of zero. That didn't deter Green Bay from trading their first-round pick (#19 overall) in 1992 for the QB they had targeted at #35 a year earlier. In their view, a year of pro experience - and healing from multiple injuries - had enhanced Favre's value. The Packers were on the other side of a similar situation with Mark Brunell: they drafted him in the fifth round, then traded him to Jacksonville for third- and fifth-round picks after two seasons in which he threw a total of 27 passes, completing 12 for 95 yards. The problem with Webb isn't that he hasn't played. It's that we have no idea whether anyone really wanted him a year ago. What we do know is that most teams passed on him at least twice. I'm with you on your thinking....I think he has value. Is Webb better than Bortles ?

No one could possibly know the answer to that right now.

In comment 13792699 est1986 said:

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We can probably pick in between where Houston and Kansas City will pick in the first round.

Very clever

Would not get you anything above a 6th or 7th round pick this year so is his value ever going to be more than that if you draft another QB most likely not. He becomes option B trade to a team which liked him for future consideration and time played for 2018, 2019 & 2020 starting with a 5th moving up your hoping to strike gold in a closed mine. This is all you could hope for why he never got on the field to show anything good or bad just a stupid move.

Our best bet is to develop him and flip him for a pick later on or maybe he’s insurance Incase that #2 pick doesn’t work out. Either way it’s best we keep him.

Especially if they're getting Shurmur. Even if whatever QB they choose at 2 ends up being a bust, maybe he can turn Webb into something. Plus injuries happen.

In comment 13792577 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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@ a minimum.

Only if Kevin Costner was still running the Browns!

In comment 13793572 Milton said:

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In comment 13792577 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: @ a minimum. Only if Kevin Costner was still running the Browns!

That's the deal you pancake eating mother f#@&er

choices, from the last 2 drafts, sitting on the bench behind Eli holding the clipboard. If we draft a QB then lets trade Webb for something ,even if its with a player to sweeten a move for an additional 2nd rounder. If we like Webb, then lets not draft a QB and instead get an OL player and a LB in round 2.

We have lots and lots of holes, we need our top draft choices out on the field making plays. We can only afford 1 developmental guy at QB.