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tony71 : 1/16/2018 2:00 pm
I’ve seen it in quite a few articles, and threads ,that people are saying that PS will want to take Keenum with him. Including here.Question is what will the Vikings do? If the make it to the Super Bowl, do they let him walk reguardless if they win or not? I admit I don’t follow the Vikings at all so I couldn’t tell you how Bradford did or anyone else they have. I just can’t see a team with a quarterback that takes them to the NFC championship game and possibly the super bowl, just letting him sign elsewhere. I suppose you could point out Denver with Brock, but I think that was more of a grudge thing.
For what it’s worth I’m not saying I want Keenum here, just heard it enough times that I wondered why they wouldn’t want to keep him..
They're never going to let him walk.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/16/2018 2:01 pm : link
But the Giants could probably get Sam Bradford.
Interesting question  
jeff57 : 1/16/2018 2:02 pm : link
They have 3 QBs, all FA's.
I think they are going to let him walk  
allstarjim : 1/16/2018 2:02 pm : link
And I don't think he has a realistic chance at winning the Super Bowl.

He's a likable guy. But man did he throw up some ducks. The play that ultimately decided the game was not a good pass or decision. I've seen him getaway with a number of floaters this year that perhaps destiny is on his side. But I hope he doesn't ever play meaningful snaps for the Giants.
RE: They're never going to let him walk.  
jeff57 : 1/16/2018 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13792656 81_Great_Dane said:
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But the Giants could probably get Sam Bradford.


If Eli is dealt, Bradford could very well be brought in as insurance for, probably, Rosen.
Vikes  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 2:04 pm : link
All 3 QBs on the Vikes are currently set to be UFAs (Bradford, Keenum, and Bridgewater). Bradford is likely gone. They'll re-sign at least one of the other 2 and I highly doubt they let Keenum go if they make it to the SB. That said, as good as Keenum's been, there are still many Vikings fans (I'm in MN) that wanted Teddy to take over at QB down the stretch. So in terms of a PR backlash if they don't re-sign Keenum, it'll actually be less then you'd expect for a (potential) SB winning QB.
RE: I think they are going to let him walk  
BillKo : 1/16/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13792660 allstarjim said:
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And I don't think he has a realistic chance at winning the Super Bowl.

He's a likable guy. But man did he throw up some ducks. The play that ultimately decided the game was not a good pass or decision. I've seen him getaway with a number of floaters this year that perhaps destiny is on his side. But I hope he doesn't ever play meaningful snaps for the Giants.


I've read this on other posts too. Yes, he definitely got away with some floaters on Sunday, but with the last pass, what really were his options?

The ball had to go out of bounds and NO actually was defending the sideline...they just didn't finish it off.

That ball was put right on the spot. Sure it could have been defended better, and should have, but that's usually what happens when the clock is winding down and QBs have to force the ball somewhere.
as to the Giants  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 2:06 pm : link
Unless Eli is traded/cut, there is no way Bradford or Keenum are coming here. Both should have better opportunities to start or a lesser incumbent to battle (e.g. Bortles in Jax).
you know how there are just some players....  
BillKo : 1/16/2018 2:11 pm : link
..you don't like and would have a hard time seeing in a Giants uniform?

Sam Bradford is one such player for me.
RE: I think they are going to let him walk  
bluepepper : 1/16/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13792660 allstarjim said:
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And I don't think he has a realistic chance at winning the Super Bowl.

He's a likable guy. But man did he throw up some ducks. The play that ultimately decided the game was not a good pass or decision. I've seen him getaway with a number of floaters this year that perhaps destiny is on his side. But I hope he doesn't ever play meaningful snaps for the Giants.

Not a good decision? It was their last chance to get in FG range. And he had to get rid of it quickly so the WR could catch it and get out of bounds with time left.
RE: RE: I think they are going to let him walk  
jeff57 : 1/16/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13792700 bluepepper said:
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In comment 13792660 allstarjim said:


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And I don't think he has a realistic chance at winning the Super Bowl.

He's a likable guy. But man did he throw up some ducks. The play that ultimately decided the game was not a good pass or decision. I've seen him getaway with a number of floaters this year that perhaps destiny is on his side. But I hope he doesn't ever play meaningful snaps for the Giants.


Not a good decision? It was their last chance to get in FG range. And he had to get rid of it quickly so the WR could catch it and get out of bounds with time left.


Yeah. LOL. Pass? On the money. Decision? Less than 10 seconds to go with the clock running and he had to throw to the sidelines or time would have run out.
RE: RE: They're never going to let him walk.  
Peppers : 1/16/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13792662 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13792656 81_Great_Dane said:


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But the Giants could probably get Sam Bradford.



If Eli is dealt, Bradford could very well be brought in as insurance for, probably, Rosen.


I think thats the likely scenario here.
I shouldn't have said it was a bad decision  
allstarjim : 1/16/2018 2:30 pm : link
It was a high risk throw but you guys are right, he didn't have much of a choice.

But the floaters I saw in that game, and not just that game, but in others this year, they looked like chuck-n-ducks, and I've never seen a guy get bailed out by his receivers as often as Keenum has this year on throws like that.
Keenum  
Giantslifer : 1/16/2018 2:44 pm : link
Keenum is a ONE YEAR wonder. Any team that signs him as their starter is doomed to 8-8 eternity.
Everything went right for Vikings so far. Rogers went down, Lions,as always can't win money game.
Wins game on flukiest of plays. Kinda reminds me of the Tebow year. Everything went right.
Going from Iron Man Eli  
Bubba : 1/16/2018 2:46 pm : link
to China Doll Bradford?
RE: Going from Iron Man Eli  
TMS : 1/16/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13792781 Bubba said:
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to China Doll Bradford?
AGREE
If you are bringing in a vet instead of Eli  
AcesUp : 1/16/2018 3:01 pm : link
to pair with a rookie, you are aiming much lower than Keenum or Bradford. Think a Geno Smith/Brian Hoyer type as a short term punching bag behind a shaky OL while we groom a rookie. It's the only way the financials makes sense for that kind of move.

Keenum is probably signing a Glennon type of contract, large guarantees with potential to cut bait or restructure early in the deal. Factoring in Eli's dead money, you're not really saving anything against the cap and better off just rolling with our guy. Keenum doesn't offer the upside of the #2 pick either, so he really doesn't give us anything longterm either.
Giants play outside  
RetroJint : 1/16/2018 3:22 pm : link
Severely limits a rag arm. Some of those balloons he throws: ooh la la! Let’s see how he & Shurmur do against the Eagles this weekend. There is a scenario where he would come to the Giants. Don’t see it happening but you never know .
None are coming to Giants  
hd9009 : 1/16/2018 3:28 pm : link
Keenum, like some said, Good story not so good QB

Bradford, always hurt.

If the Vikes don't tag Keenum  
Phil in LA : 1/16/2018 3:31 pm : link
they're nuts.
Case Keenum 2017 = Ryan Fitzpatrick 2015  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 3:31 pm : link
except Fitzpatrick turned into a pumpkin in Week 17. Keenum still has the horse shoe up his ass.

On the game Sunday they were even discussing how Zimmer actually said he'd throw Bradford in there if they were trailing because he's a better thrower.
RE: Going from Iron Man Eli  
jeff57 : 1/16/2018 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13792781 Bubba said:
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to China Doll Bradford?


He’d be a backup if he came.
Like i said  
tony71 : 1/16/2018 6:18 pm : link
I’m not hoping Keenum comes here, I just kept hearing that if PS got a head coaching gig he wanted to bring him along. I think we have enough QB issues to deal with. I was just curious how the Vikings can this deep off in the playoff and just let their QBs walk. Seems to me that they are in a bit of a jam. Do you sign a QB that takes you to a NFC championship and Super bowl (maybe) or at least make him a back up? I doubt he will let that happen. Do you sign one of the other two that are about to walk and see who wins starter, or look to see what QB to can pick up next? I thought the Giants had some QB controversy going on..I think the Vikings might be worst off then us in the offseason.
I Think Shurmur Likes Keenum  
clatterbuck : 1/16/2018 6:48 pm : link
and will wish him the best after their season together is over. He'll then work with his new team and his new boss on what's best for the Giants. Vikings have an interesting dilemma with a one year wonder and two quarterbacks coming back from serious injury. Zimmer sure seems like he thinks Bridgewater is their long-term answer and he may be the one who is re-signed, with Keenum and Bradford finding new teams. fwiw, I can see Bradford here before Keenum but only if Eli is traded or retires.
RE: If the Vikes don't tag Keenum  
clatterbuck : 1/16/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13792874 Phil in LA said:
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they're nuts.

Don't they have to pay him around $25-30M if they tag him?
Listen Keenum is a great story  
Jay on the Island : 1/17/2018 9:44 am : link
There is no way the Giants are signing him. The Vikings will likely sign him to an extension anyway. The Giants aren't going to cut Eli, take a 12 million dollar cap hit, and then sign Keenum. Keenum will struggle in the Winds of Metlife stadium. His arm strength isn't exposed in a dome. He also has the benefit of having a great OC, great OL, and one of the league's best running games not to mention the #2 defense in football. Keenum is not a franchise QB and the Giants know that. The Giants aren't going to pass on a QB with the 2nd pick because of Case Keenum.
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