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bumpsinthenight : 1/16/2018 3:39 pm
I Really like Sean Payton but this is the second time recently doing something to taunt an opponent. A bit classless move for a head coach in my opinion.

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Leber said the Saints coach made the motion after kicker Wil Lutz connected on a 43-yard field goal to give New Orleans a 24-23 lead with 25 seconds left.

Payton was asked about the gesture at a press conference on Tuesday and said it was directed toward "a group of fans" and was "good playoff fun."



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Payton previously made headlines last month for making a choking gesture toward Atlanta Falcons running back Devonta Freeman during the teams' Week 14 game.

The NFL fined Payton $10,000 for "improperly entering the playing field" for a separate incident during the Dec. 7 meeting with the Falcons.



Sean Payton Photographed Mocking Vikings' 'Skol' Chant Before Stefon Diggs' TD - ( New Window )
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Payton  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/16/2018 3:40 pm : link
always has had a tinge of "dickiness" to him.
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 3:42 pm : link
Did anyone see his overly aggressive post-game convo with Dirk Koetter after they played TB?

Payton has always been a bit of a douchebag.
I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 3:42 pm : link
If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.
"Well, we've all been there, amirite?"  
j_rud : 1/16/2018 3:43 pm : link
-Jeremy Shockey
Reminds me of this  
antdog24 : 1/16/2018 3:43 pm : link
Go Terps  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/16/2018 3:43 pm : link
I forgot about that stupid ballin' stuff.
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Go Terps : 1/16/2018 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13792900 Eric from BBI said:
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I forgot about that stupid ballin' stuff.


Those were embarrassing.
Somehow I can't see Bill Parcells doing that.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 3:45 pm : link
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I'm sure the Vikes  
Ron Johnson : 1/16/2018 3:48 pm : link
fans were having most of the 'good playoff fun' about 5 minutes later
RE: I'm sure the Vikes  
BillKo : 1/16/2018 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13792915 Ron Johnson said:
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fans were having most of the 'good playoff fun' about 5 minutes later


LOL...exactly. I am sure Payton was pelted with verbals from the Minny crowd as he ran off!!!!!
RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
djm : 1/16/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:
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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.


No problems with that... the HC acting like an asshole, but Beckham knocking down a kicking net gives you the vapors...
For the record  
djm : 1/16/2018 4:13 pm : link
I don't give much of a fuck but the HC? That's kind of annoying. The one guy who should probably keep things in check is the HC.
RE: RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13792953 djm said:
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In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:


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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.



No problems with that... the HC acting like an asshole, but Beckham knocking down a kicking net gives you the vapors...


I found that amusing, too.

I'm guessing the response would be something along the lines of defending it because it didn't hurt the team via penalty.

To which I'd remind that Bountygate says hello...
not a Payton fan.  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 4:19 pm : link
and yes, "dickiness" is the right word.
Surprised Payton hasn't been hammered more  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 4:19 pm : link
for his awful Q4 decisions. The first challenge was defensible. The 2nd challenge, a handful of plays later, was abysmal. They had plenty of time to review that play and Keenum clearly wasn't down.

And the D formation they were in for the final play was pathetic. Guarding against 5 yard outs made sense with ~15 seconds and enough time for 2-3 plays + a FG. Doing it with 10 sec left when the Vikes needed 15-20 yards to get into FG range was dumbfounding.
RE: Surprised Payton hasn't been hammered more  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13792972 giants#1 said:
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for his awful Q4 decisions. The first challenge was defensible. The 2nd challenge, a handful of plays later, was abysmal. They had plenty of time to review that play and Keenum clearly wasn't down.

And the D formation they were in for the final play was pathetic. Guarding against 5 yard outs made sense with ~15 seconds and enough time for 2-3 plays + a FG. Doing it with 10 sec left when the Vikes needed 15-20 yards to get into FG range was dumbfounding.


this too.
Maybe he was  
mrvax : 1/16/2018 4:21 pm : link
hopped up again on stolen hydrocodone?
RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:
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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.


Is it really 'ripping them off' if they give proper acknowledgment and credit?
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RE: RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
ajr2456 : 1/16/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13792953 djm said:
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In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:


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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.



No problems with that... the HC acting like an asshole, but Beckham knocking down a kicking net gives you the vapors...


I chuckled at this too. Payton has actually had worse incidents with the Saints than Odell has ever had with the Giants
Did Payton get a penalty for it?  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 4:36 pm : link
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Antdog i remember that... kinda  
est1986 : 1/16/2018 4:43 pm : link
When/Why did that happen again? Shockey was a tool.
It's funny  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 4:45 pm : link
The same douche bags ride in to defend Beckham and complain if I besmirch his honor, but they bring him up to me on a thread that has nothing to do with him.

The funny thing is Beckham probably doesn't give it a shit what team he plays for, but these same white knight assholes protect him.

arcarsenal, djm, and a few others... You guys probably don't think this but you don't add anything worth reading here. There's just nothing to learn or gain from you at all.

RE: Did Payton get a penalty for it?  
ajr2456 : 1/16/2018 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13793018 Go Terps said:
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There it is. You expect more from a 25 year old player than a 55 year old head coach.

With that logic, we can't complain about Odell until he gets suspended for the entire year like Payton.
RE: Did Payton get a penalty for it?  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13793018 Go Terps said:
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So you've never had an issue with the kicking net then?
RE: Antdog i remember that... kinda  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:47 pm : link
In comment 13793042 est1986 said:
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When/Why did that happen again? Shockey was a tool.


Think it was when Jay Feely missed what would have been the game winning FG in Seattle in 2005.
RE: Surprised Payton hasn't been hammered more  
RetroJint : 1/16/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13792972 giants#1 said:
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for his awful Q4 decisions. The first challenge was defensible. The 2nd challenge, a handful of plays later, was abysmal. They had plenty of time to review that play and Keenum clearly wasn't down.

And the D formation they were in for the final play was pathetic. Guarding against 5 yard outs made sense with ~15 seconds and enough time for 2-3 plays + a FG. Doing it with 10 sec left when the Vikes needed 15-20 yards to get into FG range was dumbfounding.


They practice that defense . All teams do. It’s called “no sidelines.” What happened was the S panicked , then dove. Stay up; play the ball. The refs don’t want to call DPI on that play.
RE: RE: Antdog i remember that... kinda  
ajr2456 : 1/16/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13793062 Greg from LI said:
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When/Why did that happen again? Shockey was a tool.



Think it was when Jay Feely missed what would have been the game winning FG in Seattle in 2005.


Didn't he also throw ice at a fan in the San Fran playoff game in 2002?
RE: RE: Antdog i remember that... kinda  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13793062 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13793042 est1986 said:


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When/Why did that happen again? Shockey was a tool.



Think it was when Jay Feely missed what would have been the game winning FG in Seattle in 2005.


didn't he miss 3 in that game? If I recall he and Petitgout were in a "false start" vs. "missed FG" contest in that one. Luke won, I think he had 6. :-)
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 4:51 pm : link
Called it!

"No penalty, so it doesn't matter"

Funny - I must be imagining the part where Sean Payton got a SEASON LONG PENALTY for his bullshit.

Also, don't worry - the feeling is mutual. I don't think you bring anything valuable to any discussion. You simply find yourself in the middle of countless debates by taking the opposite stance of the majority anywhere possible and pretending that you know more than everyone else.

You're basically radar. Congrats.

Watching you contradict yourself at every turn now sure is fun, though. I'm enjoying it.
RE: RE: RE: Antdog i remember that... kinda  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13793069 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 13793042 est1986 said:


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When/Why did that happen again? Shockey was a tool.



Think it was when Jay Feely missed what would have been the game winning FG in Seattle in 2005.



Didn't he also throw ice at a fan in the San Fran playoff game in 2002?


yep
yes, he certainly did miss 3  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:53 pm : link
That was one of the most aggravating regular season losses I've ever watched. Osi freaking OWNED the great Walter Jones in that game. Giants totally outplayed them, but between the penalties (pretty sure Frank Walker had one of his patented personal fouls in that one, too) and Feely's incompetence, they lost a game they should have won on the road against the best in the NFC at the time. That was the year the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl against Pittsburgh.
RE: RE: Surprised Payton hasn't been hammered more  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13793065 RetroJint said:
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In comment 13792972 giants#1 said:


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for his awful Q4 decisions. The first challenge was defensible. The 2nd challenge, a handful of plays later, was abysmal. They had plenty of time to review that play and Keenum clearly wasn't down.

And the D formation they were in for the final play was pathetic. Guarding against 5 yard outs made sense with ~15 seconds and enough time for 2-3 plays + a FG. Doing it with 10 sec left when the Vikes needed 15-20 yards to get into FG range was dumbfounding.



They practice that defense . All teams do. It’s called “no sidelines.” What happened was the S panicked , then dove. Stay up; play the ball. The refs don’t want to call DPI on that play.


I don't care what they call it, the Saints had just used a TO and should've been defending (at least) 10 yards further down the field. There's 10 sec left. That means 1 play and you have to kick assuming you get OOB. Which means, the routes must gain you at least 15-20 yards, yet the Saints CBs were guarding 5 yard outs. They needed to be at least 10 yards deeper so that the S (who ultimately whiffed) doesn't have the primary coverage responsibility on the WR there.
Where did I mention anything about Payton other than this story?  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 4:59 pm : link
I said I had no problem with him mocking a set of fans who ripped off someone else's choreographed bit. What does that have to do with anything else?

The answer is, it doesn't. Just another case of shitty posters saying dumb shit because someone has the temerity to call out the fact that a sacred cow on the Giants is a punk.

Odell Beckham doesn't care about you. He also probably doesn't care much about being a Giant. Tell yourselves whatever you want, but he doesn't care how much you kid yourselves otherwise.
RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:
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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.


Let me get this straight. You are ok with a headcoach doing this and setting a shit example but go berserk when a player does it?

Talk about double standard.
RE: Where did I mention anything about Payton other than this story?  
giants#1 : 1/16/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13793097 Go Terps said:
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I said I had no problem with him mocking a set of fans who ripped off someone else's choreographed bit. What does that have to do with anything else?

The answer is, it doesn't. Just another case of shitty posters saying dumb shit because someone has the temerity to call out the fact that a sacred cow on the Giants is a punk.

Odell Beckham doesn't care about you. He also probably doesn't care much about being a Giant. Tell yourselves whatever you want, but he doesn't care how much you kid yourselves otherwise.


Again, if they credit the Iceland team, and even bring in the teams captain to "lead the fans", how is it ripping them off?
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 5:04 pm : link
I don't even think it matters where they were lined up - the bottom line is that Marcus Williams blindly threw his body at Diggs' ankles and made one of the worst plays you'll ever see.

He was positioned to stop the reception right where it was caught and absolutely whiffed. You have to keep the play in front of you. As soon as Diggs went up for that ball, Williams needed to make sure he wrapped him up.

To not even get a fingertip on the guy considering where he was when Diggs caught it is horrendous.
Another asshole rides in  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 5:04 pm : link
Uconn... aren't you also exercising the same double standard?

Beckham gets personal foul after pissing like a dog... That's ok. Sean Payton throws Iceland's version of the Tomahawk Chop back in the fan's face at no penalty cost, and he's a dick.

People will go to great lengths to avoid accepting the possibility that someone on the Giants could be something other than awesome.
RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
NYDCBlue : 1/16/2018 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:
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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.


Can someone clue me in? What is a "skol" dance? I assume it involves dig/snuff incorporated into the dance routine somehow? Also, how do any of those images constitute taunting?
RE: Where did I mention anything about Payton other than this story?  
arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13793097 Go Terps said:
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I said I had no problem with him mocking a set of fans who ripped off someone else's choreographed bit. What does that have to do with anything else?

The answer is, it doesn't. Just another case of shitty posters saying dumb shit because someone has the temerity to call out the fact that a sacred cow on the Giants is a punk.

Odell Beckham doesn't care about you. He also probably doesn't care much about being a Giant. Tell yourselves whatever you want, but he doesn't care how much you kid yourselves otherwise.


He doesn't care about you, either - but you spend inordinate amounts of time thinking about him and talking about him.

You said you have no problem with Payton acting like an asshole because he wasn't penalized. Yet, even when Beckham isn't penalized (i.e.. the kicking net), you have every criticism in the book lined up for him.

If you can't see the double standard, that's a shame. It's pretty clear.
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giants#1 : 1/16/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13793109 arcarsenal said:
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I don't even think it matters where they were lined up - the bottom line is that Marcus Williams blindly threw his body at Diggs' ankles and made one of the worst plays you'll ever see.

He was positioned to stop the reception right where it was caught and absolutely whiffed. You have to keep the play in front of you. As soon as Diggs went up for that ball, Williams needed to make sure he wrapped him up.

To not even get a fingertip on the guy considering where he was when Diggs caught it is horrendous.


No doubt. Even Deion would've made a better tackling effort!

Credit to Shurmur(!!!) for the play design, but if your S is the last line of defense, he shouldn't be the primary cover guy on the other team's top WR too. Someone on the Saints had to have blown an assignment (or a shitty D design).
Terps, I have no problem with you  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 5:20 pm : link
and often find your posts interesting.....but your Beckham posts border on obsession.
RE: I've got no problems with Payton doing that  
speedywheels : 1/16/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13792896 Go Terps said:
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If you're going to do some kind of choreographed bit, expect to get mocked now and then. Remember our guys with the dumb "ballin'" celebrations?

Oh and the Minnesota fans ripped this off from fans of Iceland's national soccer team, so I'm not impressed.


So you've got no problem with a head coach acting like a immature dick, but do have a problem when OBJ kicks a net.

Got it...
and I think the defense was a pretty standard late game call  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 5:23 pm : link
It's a deep zone that is supposed to a)not let anyone get deep for an open Hail Mary b)protect the sidelines. I'm not an Xs and Os expert by any means, but I've seen that kind of coverage in that situation many times. The Vikings can't stop the clock, so you have two priorities: keep them out of the end zone and keep them in bounds. The call wasn't the problem, the execution was. All Williams has to do is let Diggs catch the ball in front of him and then tackle him, and the game is over.
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13793124 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13793109 arcarsenal said:


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I don't even think it matters where they were lined up - the bottom line is that Marcus Williams blindly threw his body at Diggs' ankles and made one of the worst plays you'll ever see.

He was positioned to stop the reception right where it was caught and absolutely whiffed. You have to keep the play in front of you. As soon as Diggs went up for that ball, Williams needed to make sure he wrapped him up.

To not even get a fingertip on the guy considering where he was when Diggs caught it is horrendous.



No doubt. Even Deion would've made a better tackling effort!

Credit to Shurmur(!!!) for the play design, but if your S is the last line of defense, he shouldn't be the primary cover guy on the other team's top WR too. Someone on the Saints had to have blown an assignment (or a shitty D design).


Yeah someone lost Diggs - if I remember right, Shurmur had them in a bunch on the right side of the formation. PJ Williams followed Rudolph underneath and Crawley covered Jarius Wright. New Orleans had Marcus Williams and Bell as their 2 deep safeties and Diggs looked like he ran a deep corner route.

I still can't really believe that happened.
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Go Terps : 1/16/2018 5:44 pm : link
Greg - I didn't even bring up Beckham on this thread. I was thinking about him at all.

Others - the kicking net thing isn't an apt comparison. I sympathize with Payton for mocking what I feel is a lame action from the Minnesota fans. Now lets say that in the playoff game last year that after Beckham's third or fourth drop the Packers started pretending to marry the kicking net...that would have been pretty funny.

And here's the post-game thread from the kicking net game. What upset me from that game wasn't the kicking net...it was him taking his helmet off and giving Baltimore an extra 15 yards on their final drive late in a one score game, and then saying "let them throw the flag" after being told he got a personal foul.

But hey, let's just make shit up about what I said instead...
*I wasn't thinking about him at all  
Go Terps : 1/16/2018 5:45 pm : link
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RE: Another asshole rides in  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2018 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13793110 Go Terps said:
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Uconn... aren't you also exercising the same double standard?

Beckham gets personal foul after pissing like a dog... That's ok. Sean Payton throws Iceland's version of the Tomahawk Chop back in the fan's face at no penalty cost, and he's a dick.

People will go to great lengths to avoid accepting the possibility that someone on the Giants could be something other than awesome.


No, I really don’t care what Sean Payton does outside of the bounty scandal.
Payton is a Putz,  
clatterbuck : 1/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
and there's a big difference between a player acting like a putz and a head coach, a.k.a., a "CEO." Can anyone imagine Coughlin or Parcells doing that? He should have waited for the lockerroom if he were so inclined and maybe had a better defense called on that last play before he started celebrating.
RE: yes, he certainly did miss 3  
an_idol_mind : 1/16/2018 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13793084 Greg from LI said:
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That was one of the most aggravating regular season losses I've ever watched. Osi freaking OWNED the great Walter Jones in that game. Giants totally outplayed them, but between the penalties (pretty sure Frank Walker had one of his patented personal fouls in that one, too) and Feely's incompetence, they lost a game they should have won on the road against the best in the NFC at the time. That was the year the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl against Pittsburgh.


That won would also have given the Giants a bye in the playoffs, IIRC. Which would have given the team Pierce back for the postseason.
RE: Did Payton get a penalty for it?  
djm : 1/16/2018 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13793018 Go Terps said:
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How many penalties has Beckham even accrued since being a Giant? Maybe 4-5?

You have a thing for certain nyg players that are animated. Don't call it anything different. You also defend soccer players and their celebratory horseshit methods but crucify NFL players for far far less. You're kind of all over the place. That's fine. No judging. No white wigs.
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