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NFL Networks Dave Dameshek predicts Belichick to Giants

giantfan2000 : 1/16/2018 4:26 pm
the rumors won't die

Says NE Coordinators jumping to new teams after refusing the past few years is a sign that Belichick is leaving NE after this season
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They are going to keep torturing us with this possibility  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
until we hire Shurmur (or whoever else).

Much as it would be Christmas come early, I refuse to allow myself to give this any credence.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
Slade lives!
RE: ...  
arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13792994 Eric from BBI said:
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Slade lives!


I'm pretty sure he's just guessed every possibility at this point so that eventually something will be right.
I dont see how BB assistants leaving is a sign  
twostepgiants : 1/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
Why would Kraft let these assistants go if BB was leaving?

he would want to keep one and then trade B.B?
Hopefully Minny wins and New England loses.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
It'll give us two weeks to see where things stand in New England between Kraft, Bill and Tawmy.
If Jax wins Sunday  
81_Great_Dane : 1/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
we should find out pretty quick if there's anything to this.

Hard to imagine either Jacksonville in the Super Bowl or BB coming back, though.

RE: Hopefully Minny wins and New England loses.  
Giantophile : 1/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13792999 bceagle05 said:
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It'll give us two weeks to see where things stand in New England between Kraft, Bill and Tawmy.


...it also means the Eagles and Pats lost, which is nice.
lol come on  
Heisenberg : 1/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
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RE: ...  
blueblood : 1/16/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13792994 Eric from BBI said:
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Slade lives!


lol
I never doubted Bob Kratch.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 4:37 pm : link
Never!
Would it be a scumbag move  
The_Boss : 1/16/2018 4:40 pm : link
To renege on a likely verbal agreement between the NYG and Shurmur and hire Belichick IF this somehow comes to pass?
who is Dave Dameshek anyway?  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
Does he have any credibility at all?
I can't wait for this whole process to be over.  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
too much media, too many assholes trying to make a name for themselves.
Belichick  
Pete44 : 1/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
I actually believe there is a lot to all this Belichick stuff and him possibly leaving NE. I just don't think he ends up with the Giants. He will command $10-15m per year and full control. The Giants will never give him either.

I think he takes next year off and resurfaces with the Redskins or Dolphins in 2019.
The Redskins?!?!?  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:42 pm : link
You do remember who owns that team, right?

Margot Robbie will be hand-feeding me grapes in her birthday suit before Bill Belichick agrees to work for Lil' Danny Snyder.
RE: Would it be a scumbag move  
BleedBlue : 1/16/2018 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13793030 The_Boss said:
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To renege on a likely verbal agreement between the NYG and Shurmur and hire Belichick IF this somehow comes to pass?



yes, but its business...

he would be fine...zona wants him
I think the Giants are the only other place he'd coach.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 4:45 pm : link
I have no expectation of it happening, but he loves the franchise enough, and has a close enough relationship with John Mara, to figure out a front office structure and dollar amount both sides could live with.
RE: Belichick  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13793035 Pete44 said:
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I actually believe there is a lot to all this Belichick stuff and him possibly leaving NE. I just don't think he ends up with the Giants. He will command $10-15m per year and full control. The Giants will never give him either.

I think he takes next year off and resurfaces with the Redskins or Dolphins in 2019.



Moronic posts plus January 2018 registration? Troll? Noooooooo!
Greg  
Pete44 : 1/16/2018 4:46 pm : link
I just think there only a handful of teams that will pay him and give him full control and the Skins are def one of them.

I'd say the Cowboys too, but Jerry Jones would never give up control.
Chop  
Pete44 : 1/16/2018 4:47 pm : link
I have been on this site for 20 years, it is a new handle.

I'm not saying I know anything, it is just a hunch.
Isn't this Dameshek friends with Bill Simmons?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2018 4:49 pm : link
Simmons said he was a Giants fan and I believe Dameshek was on Simmons' podcast. I think this is the same dude.
no one really has full control of the Redskins  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 4:50 pm : link
when Lil' Danny is the owner. He can't help himself. Even if he gave BB assurances that he'd keep his nose out of football operations, why would Belichick ever believe him?

If he chooses to leave NE, there will be teams trampling each other to hand their teams over to him. I'd think the Redskins would be one of the last places he'd ever consider.
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ghost718 : 1/16/2018 4:50 pm : link
Yea sure  
Giant John : 1/16/2018 4:52 pm : link
BB working for our GM? What we fire him too? What BS.
Dave Who  
jeff57 : 1/16/2018 4:56 pm : link
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RE: Isn't this Dameshek friends with Bill Simmons?  
John in No Cal : 1/16/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13793072 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Simmons said he was a Giants fan and I believe Dameshek was on Simmons' podcast. I think this is the same dude.


It is the same guy. But he is a big Steelers fan not a Giants fan. He may be doing this to also mess w Simmons.
I don’t think Mr. Dameshek got the memo.  
Boy Cord : 1/16/2018 5:09 pm : link
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Who knows what is going on behind closed doors,  
Keith : 1/16/2018 5:11 pm : link
but the one thing thats interesting is that nobody knows Belichicks contract status. Nobody knows if he's signed through this year. NObody knows if he has an opt out. His contract situation is completely hidden.
Where there’s smoke..  
Sean : 1/16/2018 5:15 pm : link
I remember reading Accorsi’s book and he talked about a meeting between Parcells & the Giants prior to the 2006 NYG/DAL game in Giants Stadium. Parcells wanted the GM job. These conversations happen.
Slade needs this...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2018 5:16 pm : link
This would be a huge boost to his credibility.
RE: Who knows what is going on behind closed doors,  
Motley Two : 1/16/2018 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13793123 Keith said:
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but the one thing thats interesting is that nobody knows Belichicks contract status. Nobody knows if he's signed through this year. NObody knows if he has an opt out. His contract situation is completely hidden.


And it's probably got more leverage in his favor than any coaching contract in the NFL.
And the only leverage Kraft has  
Motley Two : 1/16/2018 5:17 pm : link
is that nobody else knows what it is.
RE: who is Dave Dameshek anyway?  
Mr. Bungle : 1/16/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13793032 Greg from LI said:
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Does he have any credibility at all?

A comedy writer. Seriously.

Dude is making a no-risk guess. That's all this is.
I don’t doubt for a second  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 5:21 pm : link
that there’s some communication between all parties involved. Mara has good relationships with Kraft and Belichick, and he was in New England just a few days ago. I’d still put the chances at around two percent though.
RE: Belichick  
mphbullet36 : 1/16/2018 5:22 pm : link
In comment 13793035 Pete44 said:
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I actually believe there is a lot to all this Belichick stuff and him possibly leaving NE. I just don't think he ends up with the Giants. He will command $10-15m per year and full control. The Giants will never give him either.

I think he takes next year off and resurfaces with the Redskins or Dolphins in 2019.


I Belichick was available and the giants passed there would be a riot to have the Mara's fired from owning the franchise...arguably the greatest coach of all time wants to come back to his home you give him whatever the f*ck he wants.
RE: Yea sure  
mphbullet36 : 1/16/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13793081 Giant John said:
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BB working for our GM? What we fire him too? What BS.

why couldn't they collaborate? Gettleman is old school watch film tape type guy...why wouldn't that work with Bill's style?
Simple solution  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2018 5:26 pm : link
Gettleman can be the GM but Belichick has the final say on personnel matters. If Gettleman doesn't like it, let him walk. I'd absolutely sign up for that.

But it doesn't matter because Belichick isn't coming to the Giants anyway.
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Joey in VA : 1/16/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13793075 ghost718 said:
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You win, thread over. you somonabatch.
You gotta know Bill plans on winning this years Super Bowl!  
wgenesis123 : 1/16/2018 5:29 pm : link
There is one special accomplishment that has eluded every great NFL Coach---- a 3 peat! If New England wins this year, just how can Bill pass on that challenge?
I wonder about the whole  
81_Great_Dane : 1/16/2018 5:29 pm : link
"he loved it here" thing. It's different owners, different front office, different building, different players wearing different uniforms.

He could bring back the old unis, but he can't bring back Wellington Mara or Bob Tisch, or Giants Stadium.
Oh, Belichick better lobby hard for those 80s throwbacks.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2018 5:32 pm : link
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RE: Simple solution  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2018 5:43 pm : link
In comment 13793154 Greg from LI said:
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Gettleman can be the GM but Belichick has the final say on personnel matters. If Gettleman doesn't like it, let him walk. I'd absolutely sign up for that.
But it doesn't matter because Belichick isn't coming to the Giants anyway.
I would too. But your skeptical initial post holds more sway:
Giants' ownership, scared of their own shadows, having been shamed into firing the GM, Ross, and the HC--for mostly the wrong acknowledged reasons--would go into cardiac arrest before they would stroll down this road. Their renewed "loyalty" to DG and stability would trump all.

I'm actually surprised that there is this talk of the breakup of the Holy Trinity with BB going to NYG. Yes, they've been together for, what, 17 years? There are bound to be strains and stresses, the Garoppalo trade twisted the end game a bit, but there is an enormous leap of faith for that to lead BB to NYG.

Whoever has say on personnel matters in this next regime, I will lay big $$ it's going to be miles better than we have put up with the past nine years/

Anyone heard from rfflair recently?
RE: Simple solution  
Sarcastic Sam : 1/16/2018 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13793154 Greg from LI said:
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Gettleman can be the GM but Belichick has the final say on personnel matters. If Gettleman doesn't like it, let him walk. I'd absolutely sign up for that.

But it doesn't matter because Belichick isn't coming to the Giants anyway.


That would be the ideal situation... Belichick takes an upstairs role, EVP of football operations.
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2018 5:46 pm : link
I still don't think Belichick is coming here...

BUT.

I can't shake this feeling that we're going to get thrown a major curveball somehow and Shurmur actually isn't going to wind up being named the next HC.

Not necessarily Belichick - but it just feels like maybe the decision isn't final yet despite reports that they've already decided.
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Larry in Pencilvania : 1/16/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13793186 arcarsenal said:
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I still don't think Belichick is coming here...

BUT.

I can't shake this feeling that we're going to get thrown a major curveball somehow and Shurmur actually isn't going to wind up being named the next HC.

Not necessarily Belichick - but it just feels like maybe the decision isn't final yet despite reports that they've already decided.


It's Tom Quinn
RE: .  
Sean : 1/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
In comment 13793186 arcarsenal said:
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I still don't think Belichick is coming here...

BUT.

I can't shake this feeling that we're going to get thrown a major curveball somehow and Shurmur actually isn't going to wind up being named the next HC.

Not necessarily Belichick - but it just feels like maybe the decision isn't final yet despite reports that they've already decided.


None of it is.

“Shurmur will accept IF the Giants offer”

“Patricia is LIKELY going to Detroit”

The lack of action leads me to believe verbal agreements have been made, but you never know.
I think there is virtually no chance of this  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
But if for some reason John Mara gets a call from Belichick's agent and the agent says "He wants the job, but the following needs to happen..." you agree to those terms and you bring him in. Even if that means you reneg on a handshake deal with Shurmer, or Gettleman focuses on the scouting/contract side of the GM side while giving up final say on personnel.

You can't pass up a chance to hire the greatest coach in the game because all of the facts weren't known at the time.
RE: I wonder about the whole  
Sean : 1/16/2018 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13793161 81_Great_Dane said:
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"he loved it here" thing. It's different owners, different front office, different building, different players wearing different uniforms.

He could bring back the old unis, but he can't bring back Wellington Mara or Bob Tisch, or Giants Stadium.


Yep. He’s said multiple times about how it’s not the same with MetLife. He was tearing up about his memories with the Giants coupled with the fact it was his LAST time in Giants Stadium.
Someone has to guess right  
Carl in CT : 1/16/2018 6:04 pm : link
There are only so many candidates. Whomever is right will claim they are an insider. Hmmm Bull Shit!
Besides the obvious ramification to the Giants  
USAF NYG Fan : 1/16/2018 6:08 pm : link
I would love to see Brady without Belichick for a season or two. 1 GOAT without the other GOAT.
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