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Dave Gettleman Drafts By the Numbers

Saos1n : 1/16/2018 10:50 pm

2013
1 DT Star Lotulelei
2 DT Kawaan Short
3 None Traded for 2012 4th (Not DG)
4 G Edmund Kugbila
5 LB AJ Klein
6 RB Kenjon Barner
7 None Traded for Louis Murphy (Not DG)

2014
1 WR Kelvin Benjamin
2 DE Kony Ealy
3 G Trai Turner
4 S Tre Boston
5 CB Bene Benwikere (Traded up)
6 RB Tyler Gaffney
7 None Traded for Colin Jones (Not DG)
UDFA WR Philly Brown, G Andrew Norwell

2015
1 OLB Shaq Thompson
2 WR Devin Funchess (Traded up)
3 None (Devin Funchess Trade)
4 OT Daryl Williams (Traded up)
5 None (Daryl Williams Trade)
5 SDP LB David Mayo
5 SDP RB Cameron Artis Payne
6 None (Devin Funchess Trade)
7 None (Daryl Williams Trade)
UDFA

2016
1 DT Vernon Butler
2 CB James Bradberry
3 CB Daryl Worley (Traded up)
4 None (Trade to Cleveland)
5 CB Zack Sanchez (From Cleveland Trade)
6 None (Traded for Jared Allen)
7 TE Beau Sandland
UDFA

2017
1 RB Christian McCaffrey
2 WR Curtis Samuel
2 G Taylor Moton (Traded up)
3 None Traded to New England along with Kony Ealy
3 DE Daeshon Hall (Traded up)
4 None Traded to Arizona to trade up
5 CB Corn Elder
6 FB Alexander Armah
7 None
7 K Harrison Butker
UDFA

QB 0
RB 3
FB 1
WR 3
OT 1
OG 3
DE 2
DT 3
LB 2
CB 5
S 1

Traded up 6 times
Traded down 0 times (I may be mistaken. Sorry if I am)
Traded a player 1 time
Traded for a player 1 time

It�s not pretty

Saos1n : 1/16/2018 10:55 pm : link

Sorry for any incorrect info...

Would be interesting

GeoMan999 : 1/16/2018 10:56 pm : link

To know how many of the six trade-ups were good moves.

Seemed to give up alot

George from PA : 1/16/2018 11:02 pm : link

For Funchess

I wrote traded up next to each of them

Saos1n : 1/16/2018 11:02 pm : link

Throughout the years
CB Bene Benwikere
WR Devin Funchess
OT Daryl Williams
CB Daryl Worley
G Taylor Moton
DE Daeshon Hall

There's one player left from that 2014 draft.

Ten Ton Hammer : 1/16/2018 11:27 pm : link

Benjamin and Funchess

jbeintherockies : 1/16/2018 11:29 pm : link

They were the same type of players; same guys. Both were 6'5" and around 240 lbs. I think Gettleman was trying to get Newton big targets because Cam wasn't (isn't?) that accurate.

I'm sure if you went thru each team's last 5 drafts

theold5j : 1/16/2018 11:32 pm : link

You'll find a lot of similar records. The thing that hurts is missing on your 1st and 2nd rd picks. Those guys are supposed to be foundation players. That's where the giants have screwed up.

Pugh
Hankins
Odell
Richburg
Flowers
Collins
Apple
Shepard
Engram
Tomlinson

That's 5 years worth of 1st and 2nd rd picks. 7 of them were basically worthless this year.

Strong emphasis on the interior

GeorgeAdams33 : 1/17/2018 12:04 am : link

Drafts in clusters to attack a problem just like George Young did.

Finds starters

old man : 1/17/2018 12:11 am : link

even after round 2.
We need that desperately, for the next 2-3 particularly.
Need the homegrowns so you don't have to buy a defense...offense...whatever.

...

HitSquad : 1/17/2018 12:51 am : link

His ability to find offensive linemen has me optimistic.

Turner
Williams
Norwell

All above average to elite talents

RE: I'm sure if you went thru each team's last 5 drafts

adamg : 1/17/2018 1:06 am : link

In comment 13793535 theold5j said:

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Wtf does this mean/refer to?

OBJXIII : 1/17/2018 1:36 am : link

Gettleman seems to have a pretty even distribution of positions, besides QB.

RE: Benjamin and Funchess

Ira : 1/17/2018 2:26 am : link

In comment 13793534 jbeintherockies said:

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They were the same type of players; same guys. Both were 6'5" and around 240 lbs. I think Gettleman was trying to get Newton big targets because Cam wasn't (isn't?) that accurate.

A friend from North Carolina said that Gettleman likes big receivers who block well for the run game.

I like it

DavidinBMNY : 1/17/2018 6:40 am : link

He targets players and types of players.

And Eli would do well with big WR with his tendency, since his college days, to miss high when he misses, which is probably exacerbated with age.

He is going to have a plan with the draft and it's clearly not going to be BPA plan. I think some trading we'll be done prior to the draft as well - most likely for OL help given his comments.

Also it's not going to hurt we will get a comp pick (4th?) for hankins

DavidinBMNY : 1/17/2018 7:06 am : link

I believe the only eligible player to count against hankins is Ellison and I believe that Newhouse would also be considered. Other players we signed had been released.

This is the first time, since trading comps was instituted (last yr?) that the Giants have a comp pick.

I'd expect a target player or 2 from DG.

RE: Seemed to give up alot

JayinVT : 1/17/2018 7:16 am : link

In comment 13793522 George from PA said:

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For Funchess

While I agree, Funchess was pretty good this year, 840yds/8td's so maybe he just needed time to develop? I don't follow the panthers enough to know either way, but some WR's are slow starters (amani toomer?)

what would be refreshing is to

mdc1 : 1/17/2018 9:12 am : link

see picks that actually start and contribute to the team. Too much variation from the previous GM, good or bust and out of the NFL or worse.

I don't know who he is

Joey in VA : 1/17/2018 9:23 am : link

But we need to have Corn Elder on this team.

RE: ...

Pete in MD : 1/17/2018 9:34 am : link

In comment 13793567 HitSquad said:

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His ability to find offensive linemen has me optimistic.

Turner
Williams
Norwell

All above average to elite talents

He�s also responsible for finding Mike Remmers. Carolina signed Remmers from the Ram�s PS and he became a very good starter for them which earned him a large contract from the Vikings this past offseason.

RE: There's one player left from that 2014 draft.

ryanmkeane : 1/17/2018 9:45 am : link

In comment 13793532 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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He's a pro bowl guard.

RE: RE: There's one player left from that 2014 draft.

ryanmkeane : 1/17/2018 9:45 am : link

In comment 13793779 ryanmkeane said:

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In comment 13793532 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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He's a pro bowl guard.

Oh, and Norwell from that year, is a pro bowl guard.

RE: RE: I'm sure if you went thru each team's last 5 drafts

theold5j : 1/17/2018 12:05 pm : link

Are you asking what worthless means? It means they didn't do shit. They sucked. Didn't contribute.

In comment 13793569 adamg said:

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In comment 13793535 theold5j said:

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You'll find a lot of similar records. The thing that hurts is missing on your 1st and 2nd rd picks. Those guys are supposed to be foundation players. That's where the giants have screwed up.

Pugh
Hankins
Odell
Richburg
Flowers
Collins
Apple
Shepard
Engram
Tomlinson

That's 5 years worth of 1st and 2nd rd picks. 7 of them were basically worthless this year.

Wtf does this mean/refer to?

So I guess we can look forward to the Giants trading UP in

ZogZerg : 1/17/2018 12:10 pm : link

this years draft. Sounds like if he likes someone, he goes and gets him.

Curious to see...

Giantfan in skinland : 1/17/2018 12:11 pm : link

if the Carolina WRs are his "type" or instead guys that he was taking to fit what they thought they needed down there based on system/QB. I hope not the former, as the lack of weapons in the passing game is probably what ultimately killed that team. Even so, the good news is that even if that's a weak spot for him, we already have Shepard and Engram, plus OBJ (at least for the near term)...so there's only but so much work he actually needs to do there in the near future.

I am not a fan of trading up

Jay on the Island : 1/17/2018 3:34 pm : link

But I won't criticize a GM for doing so in order to secure a player he really likes. Gettleman is more likely to trade to the #1 spot if Darnold much higher rated on the Giants board than the other QB's.