Seifert was on with Jordan for this week's pod. He's a national writer for ESPN currently based in Minnesota and knows a ton about Shurmur. The nuggets:
-Has been around many guys who he thought had that "head coach" vibe or who ultimately were going to be successful ones because of their personality and the way they deal with people - he hasn't necessarily seen that in Shurmur but that does NOT disqualify him as a guy who can't be a great HC. He thinks Shurmur is a guy who players listen to and respect because they know that the schemes he creates will ultimately make them into a much better player. He mentioned Belichick and Zimmer (not to compare) are this way. Not necessarily a rah-rah guy - but can command the room due to his football knowledge and say "hey - listen to me on this - doing it this way will make us great or make you a great player." He mentioned the Vikings players really taking to Shurmur as an offensive mind due to his ability to put each and every one of them in the best possible chance to succeed. And he is that type of coach, not necessarily a yeller. But players respect his football acumen and gravitate towards that
-On Shurmur's personality: it can be seen as bland but he does have a sense of humor and has a quiet work ethic and professional sense about him. Thinks it will go over well in NY due to the headaches from this past season
-On QBs: whether Giants roll with Eli or take someone at 2 (or both) - Shurmur will be able to adapt. He has always created schemes to fit players strengths. Always says "ok what does this guy do well" with Keenum - they create more roll out plays and shots deep because Keenum loves to improvise. "Why throw the 5 yard out when you have a chance a 50?" is a line that Shurmur says to his QBs. With Bradford - they focused on quick passing game because Bradford was extremely accurate in short yardage and their OL was in shambles. With the OL this year and Keenum - that completely changed. Says Giants players will love his ability to create schemes based on their strengths
That was about all I can remember but it was an insightful interview from a guy that knows Shurmur decently well.
I kind of thought McDaniels was a sexier pick, but that s just perception based on no facts
To me Shurmur's ceiling is Andy Reid...and his floor is Todd Bowles.
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When your players realize this and you're unable to change and adapt, they will lose respect for your abilities to lead them. Further, it's clear his ability to instill discipline and control the locker room was near zero.
If Shurmur's ability to adapt and design systems putting his players in positions to succeed, he'll have a big leg up on his predecessor.
How was Patricia more of a Rah Rah guy? I mean he was your guy, but he doesn't strike me as that type of person at all.
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i like shurmur but still wish we ended up with more of that rah rah type coach...one that is truly considered a leader of men. it's not impossible to be a strong quiet leader but it definitely doesn't happen as naturally and is more dependent on actually winning (at least imo). when you have a more low key personality and try to lead with experience and by example, results are what does the talking for you. i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wish for the best but if we start off slow, it wouldn't surprise me to see similar crap to what we saw this year.
How was Patricia more of a Rah Rah guy? I mean he was your guy, but he doesn't strike me as that type of person at all.
You're right but based on how I've heard players talk about Patricia, I don't have the same concern about his ability to command a room and motivate his players. You also know right off the bat that he's the smartest guy in the room (literally) and the evidence of success since he became DC in 2012 is unparalleled. Now that's not to say that Shurmur doesn't have the same ability and/or isn't viewed in the same light, I personally just haven't seen the evidence to suggest that.
It also helps with drafts. Sometimes you take a guy thinking he's going to fit a specific role in the offense, and for whatever reason that doesn't materialize. For a system coach, that guy is now a bust. For a coach that adapts, he would notice the player might still do some things very well and utilize that.