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LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/17/2018 8:05 pm
Another Lance Thomas  
Earl the goat : 1/17/2018 8:15 pm : link
Sighting. Ugh
How is Kurt Rambis still  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/17/2018 8:43 pm : link
employed?
with Lance Thomas it's like playing 4 v 5 on offense  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 8:53 pm : link
and his D, while sometimes good, is not exactly great.

I know I'm just saying the obvious.
RE: with Lance Thomas it's like playing 4 v 5 on offense  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13794656 Del Shofner said:
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and his D, while sometimes good, is not exactly great.

I know I'm just saying the obvious.


I just don't understand how he plays over Beasley. I don't even hate Thomas as much as others, but it's night and day with Beasley.
61 points for the Grizz at the half.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 9:03 pm : link
No Conley. No Gasol. Lifeless performance thus far.
Hardaway, Lee, McDermott and Beasley  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 9:05 pm : link
is a pretty solid group to handle the #2 and #3 spots. Lance should be what he is - a spare part who gets little playing time.
oy, Thomas  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 9:28 pm : link
- throws the ball out of bounds just as soon as we get some mo.
Can we leave Horn and Thomas in Memphis?  
adamg : 1/17/2018 9:30 pm : link
This is pathetic.
KP with 2 massive blocks in a row.  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 9:31 pm : link
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KP is a block monster  
adamg : 1/17/2018 9:36 pm : link
Loving it
Gotta love how much  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/17/2018 9:45 pm : link
we pay Thomas and Baker. Would they even be on another NBA roster?
down 16 at the end of 3 to these guys - yuck  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 9:46 pm : link
- watching Beasley play D, though, I don't think he's so bad at it. Not enough to justify the loss of O with Thomas.

Kanter has regressed but I guess he's a goner either way. Or is his contract the one with the player opt-in? He may need it.
RE: down 16 at the end of 3 to these guys - yuck  
eightshamrocks : 1/17/2018 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13794705 Del Shofner said:
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- watching Beasley play D, though, I don't think he's so bad at it. Not enough to justify the loss of O with Thomas.

Kanter has regressed but I guess he's a goner either way. Or is his contract the one with the player opt-in? He may need it.
Regressed how? 20 points, and a shot ton of boards again tonight, yet somehow Kanterchas regressed? Really? Sick and tired of seeing Kanterchas trashed in these threads on a daily basis.
KP with 6 blocks, and the lead is cut to 8.  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 9:53 pm : link
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Blockzingis  
adamg : 1/17/2018 9:54 pm : link
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RE: RE: down 16 at the end of 3 to these guys - yuck  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13794712 eightshamrocks said:
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IRegressed how? 20 points, and a shot ton of boards again tonight, yet somehow Kanterchas regressed? Really? Sick and tired of seeing Kanterchas trashed in these threads on a daily basis.


Regressed on D at least. He's minus-13 in 27 minutes and didn't play D very well at all, to my eye.
RE: RE: down 16 at the end of 3 to these guys - yuck  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13794712 eightshamrocks said:
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In comment 13794705 Del Shofner said:


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- watching Beasley play D, though, I don't think he's so bad at it. Not enough to justify the loss of O with Thomas.

Kanter has regressed but I guess he's a goner either way. Or is his contract the one with the player opt-in? He may need it.

Regressed how? 20 points, and a shot ton of boards again tonight, yet somehow Kanterchas regressed? Really? Sick and tired of seeing Kanterchas trashed in these threads on a daily basis.


How is Kanter "trashed". His next contract will be massive and he can't play late thanks to defense. His own coach doesn't play him late for that reason.
block #7 for KP!  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 10:02 pm : link
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Within four.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:03 pm : link
Memphis has no go-to guy to put us away.
The Block Mamba  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:03 pm : link
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RE: The Block Mamba  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13794726 adamg said:
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official scorer now saying 6, not 7, but still ...
How that wasn't a foul...  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:07 pm : link
...
that play right there is the problem with KP playing the 5 -  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 10:09 pm : link
he doesn't position himself for rebounds like a 5 should.
what?  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 10:11 pm : link
These refs suck.
My point is  
eightshamrocks : 1/17/2018 10:11 pm : link
That I don't think Kanter's defense is as bad as people claim. It's greatly exaggerated.
What a garbage call.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:12 pm : link
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Fuck these refs  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:12 pm : link
Fuck em.

Good for the tank tho.
RE: My point is  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13794739 eightshamrocks said:
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That I don't think Kanter's defense is as bad as people claim. It's greatly exaggerated.


The coach clearly disagrees. Kanter no longer plays late AT ALL.
What a fucking joke  
nygiants16 : 1/17/2018 10:13 pm : link
Where is the foul? You call that now?
Call  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2018 10:13 pm : link
One of the worst calls I've seen in a long time. The nba officially has a referee problem. That should raise some serious red flags. You never see a loose ball foul in a situation like that.
Especially after KP was mugged at the other end  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:13 pm : link
After his steal
Holy  
adambear : 1/17/2018 10:15 pm : link
shit.
What the fuck???  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:15 pm : link
This is a disgrace.
Wow  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:15 pm : link
These refs are absolute garbage
What the actual fuck...  
DennyInDenville : 1/17/2018 10:15 pm : link
These refs need fired
The refs  
adambear : 1/17/2018 10:16 pm : link
are ruining this sport recently
Same ref  
nygiants16 : 1/17/2018 10:16 pm : link
That red should be investigated, that is a disgrace
ridiculous.  
Del Shofner : 1/17/2018 10:17 pm : link
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Courtney Lee isn't Rasheed Wallace either.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:17 pm : link
Gimme a fucking break.
Courtney Lee of all players  
adambear : 1/17/2018 10:17 pm : link
lol
Disgrace  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2018 10:18 pm : link
Derek Stafford deserves to be suspended. This is one of the worst screw jobs I've seen in awhile. He completely took the game out of the players hands.
The NBA has a big problem  
nygiants16 : 1/17/2018 10:18 pm : link
The players hate and do not trust the officials
Fuck that ref  
adamg : 1/17/2018 10:19 pm : link
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NBA officiating  
B in ALB : 1/17/2018 10:19 pm : link
IS A FUCKING JOKE! FUCK YOU.

The players have been  
adambear : 1/17/2018 10:20 pm : link
complaining big time about the refs all year. Usually it comes with the territory, but it's something different this year. It hasn't been terribly noticeable to the viewer, but there is BAD BLOOD right now. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
RE: The players have been  
DennyInDenville : 1/17/2018 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13794764 adambear said:
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complaining big time about the refs all year. Usually it comes with the territory, but it's something different this year. It hasn't been terribly noticeable to the viewer, but there is BAD BLOOD right now. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Agreed. Bob Lee outside the lines on espn did a nice story on this earlier
The league is so rigged it's not worth watching...  
BigBlue2007 : 1/17/2018 10:21 pm : link
How can a referee decide the game with a technical foul at that juncture in the game? This league is an absolute joke.
That ref is  
batman11 : 1/17/2018 10:23 pm : link
A fucking disgrace! I don’t give a crap how many playoff games you’ve done. Let the players decide the game asshole. The game is not about you.
RE: The league is so rigged it's not worth watching...  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2018 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13794767 BigBlue2007 said:
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How can a referee decide the game with a technical foul at that juncture in the game? This league is an absolute joke.


I'm pissed as a Knicks fan but that asshole ref also just ruined an exciting end to the game.

Silver needs to get these refs to stay the fuck out of the games.
RE: The league is so rigged it's not worth watching...  
nygiants16 : 1/17/2018 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13794767 BigBlue2007 said:
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How can a referee decide the game with a technical foul at that juncture in the game? This league is an absolute joke.


Forget the tech, that loose ball foul was a fucking joke
It sucks that the Knicks let it get to a point where the refs  
JustaDiscussion : 1/17/2018 10:30 pm : link
could screw them like that. They had so many opportunities to change momentum and missed seemingly every big shot. They left Kanter in too long in the third imo. The refs called them for a lot of ticky tack fouls early. Memphis seemed to hit every big shot and yet with KP at the 5 at the end the Knicks still manage to storm back. Still, it's hard to be a Knicks fan and not be mad at those two calls down the stretch. I almost wish they didn't hold Lee back after the game when he went at the ref.
Wally and Fuckwad  
B in ALB : 1/17/2018 10:31 pm : link
Defending the refs and the league.

I'm done.
Me too.  
batman11 : 1/17/2018 10:33 pm : link
That’s garbage from those two and where were the Knick coaches? If some ref screws my teams chance to come back after working so hard I would be in his face, Get thrown out. Fuck it, the games over anyway.
RE: Wally and Fuckwad  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2018 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13794774 B in ALB said:
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Defending the refs and the league.

I'm done.


I love Pidto but the rest of that show is garbage.

Off topic, but the show "People Talking Sports and other stuff" they keep showing commercials for is the worst show I've ever seen in television. Is that guys dad Dolan?
Hornacek downplays the officiating, too.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:38 pm : link
You can criticize your team AND the refs, you spineless dipshit.
Hey. Hornacek  
batman11 : 1/17/2018 10:38 pm : link
Maybe if you showed an actual pulse your team wouldn’t come out so flat all the time. I know they’re pros, but they’re human. Show a little energy and passion, fight for your guys maybe they’ll fight for you....
Horny doesn't blame the ref at all  
DennyInDenville : 1/17/2018 10:40 pm : link
What a pussy

Also agreed this post game show SUCKS. Yes network does such a better job with the Yankees. They aren't scared to rip an ump
He keeps killing the starters, too.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:40 pm : link
How bout getting Lance Thomas and Jarret Jackoff (credit: B in ALB) out of the starting lineup?
RE: He keeps killing the starters, too.  
nygiants16 : 1/17/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13794790 bceagle05 said:
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How bout getting Lance Thomas and Jarret Jackoff (credit: B in ALB) out of the starting lineup?


Nope lance is there best defender...

Maybe start Beasley who right now is your second best plAYER
Lee says he wasn't even talking to Stafford.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 10:54 pm : link
He and the rookie were trash talking a bit and Stafford only T'd him up for some reason, instead of double technicals. What a joke.
Hornacek is a spineless hack  
B in ALB : 1/17/2018 10:57 pm : link
This organization has no balls.

Alan Hahn and Wally can eat dicks.

Such a pathetic stance by these assholes after getting completely jobbed by an incompetent referee.

Trash. Absolute trash.
Holy. Shit  
Greg from LI : 1/17/2018 11:04 pm : link
Just got done watching the game. What an absolute travesty.

-6 or so to go in the 4th, Dillon Brooks does the most blatant Reggie Miller kickout on a 3, draws a whistle. Horrid call.

-Just under 4 to go, KP steals and breaks to the hoop. Jarell Martin reaches in and then slams him with the body while Brooks grabs his jersey from behind. No call, ruled out of bounds off KP.

-2 minutes to go, Ennis shoves Hardaway to get open. Really obvious, no call, Memphis scores on the possession.

-Finally, the complete horseshit in the final minute. Unbelievably weak call on Porzingis and ridiculous technical on Lee.

Just an disgraceful display by the refs in the last 6 minutes.
RE: RE: The players have been  
djm : 1/17/2018 11:29 pm : link
In comment 13794765 DennyInDenville said:
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In comment 13794764 adambear said:


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complaining big time about the refs all year. Usually it comes with the territory, but it's something different this year. It hasn't been terribly noticeable to the viewer, but there is BAD BLOOD right now. This is just the tip of the iceberg.


Agreed. Bob Lee outside the lines on espn did a nice story on this earlier


If you watch the games with good headphones or probably even a good sound system you can hear the players saying all sorts of crazy shit to the officials. It's definitely worse this year.
I've had it with Hornacek, too.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2018 11:36 pm : link
Lee is a respected veteran player in your locker room who got jobbed tonight by a ref - the coach needs to have his back in that situation. It's becoming clearer why Hornacek has had his issues with players in Phoenix and New York.
Wow a lot of agreement here (for once)  
Carl in CT : 1/18/2018 6:16 am : link
And yes Wally is a Dick!
When bringing in players from different cultures there is bound to be  
GiantsUA : 1/18/2018 7:24 am : link
language barriers and cultural differences.

In Latvia, the exact translation of "man-defense" is to have one foot in the paint regardless of where your man is, and wave your arm at him.

The Knicks need a translator to straighten KP out asap. Man-defense means something completely different in the USA.

We should be thanking  
Keith : 1/18/2018 7:44 am : link
the refs.
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