Some negative Gettleman feedback buried in this Shrine Game

I don't understand how anybody can put an ounce of stock in his judgement in light of recent developments.

He doesnt come across as a people person.

Mara and Tisch have their fingerprints all over the Hindenberg that was the 2017 team, and people who are distrustful of their decision-making and meddling have every reason to be distrustful.

They re-hired Gettleman because they know him and the default with this team has been the familiar. Gettleman can also be an abrasive prick. Neither of these facts alone or together precludes Gettleman from being a good general manager.

If he has kicked a few of our scouts out or in the ass, good.

Exploring options is what a GM is supposed to do. If Richardson meddled in who was the target of the options, then Gettleman will be right at home here because he will get the same kind of meddling. Goes with the territory. Again, it doesn't prevent Gettleman from being a good GM unless the options he is allowed to take turn out to be lousy.

For all the statements about "sacred cows" and "sentimentality", you can only get rid of a player when you have someone better to take his place. Chuck Noll can chide himself for his sentimentality about keeping Bradshaw or Franco Harris, for example, but when the alternatives are Cliff Stoudt and Mark Malone or Greg Hawthorne, Russell Davis, Walter Abercrombie and Frank Pollard, there is not much choice to make.

Get talented players in here through the draft, FA, UDFA and none of this stuff is a problem.

damning part of the issue in Carolina is that Gettleman hadn't even decided what to do with Olsen or Davis, he had only gotten to the point at looking at restructuring contracts and looked at possible trading partners.

The players and their agents went to Richardson and he told Gettleman not to even consider any other options that would reduce their pay of move them from the team.

I really don't see any possible way this gets turned back as a negative on Gettleman

I'm glad feathers were ruffled. To echo gidie, with the draft record this franchise has had the past 8 years, feathers needed to ruffled and heads needed to role. Reese and Ross are gone and the scouts are nervous. They should be.

Stress brings out the best and the worst in people. Let's see how the Giants respond. Get your big boy pants on

In comment 13794948 gidiefor said:

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of course there are roughled feathers at the Shrine Game. That's where a good number of Giants Scouts are hanging out... and what do you know.... Gettleman just unceremoniously fired their boss, Mark Ross, almost immediately after he was hired. Gettleman is in charge of their office for now, and they all directly report to him I'm sure he has put a few golden cows on notice in the scouting department that they have to do better. The College Scouting department hasn't been getting the job done with offensive lineman, running backs, linebackers, or cornerbacks. I'd be roughling a few feathers and kicking their asses too. For those of you who wanted change and think Gettleman is a sign of the same ol' thing, this is a sure sign that change is happening and that it's not going to be the same o' thing. And just let me say this: Thank god a few feathers are roughled in the College Scouting department!

Agreed...excellent post.

Nothing negative about that. Best news I have heard in a while. Makes the hiring look better to me.

Since the Super Bowl win the Giants are 42-54. Their point differential in that stretch is -162. This hasn't been a fun team to root for in years, and some of the players are difficult even to like. No one in that building should be happy or feeling safe in their job. I hope the players are uncomfortable and unhappy.

I hope there are a bunch of players that end of hating Gettleman and motherfucking him as they are being shown the door.

In comment 13795327 Go Terps said:

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Since the Super Bowl win the Giants are 42-54. Their point differential in that stretch is -162. This hasn't been a fun team to root for in years, and some of the players are difficult even to like. No one in that building should be happy or feeling safe in their job. I hope the players are uncomfortable and unhappy. I hope there are a bunch of players that end of hating Gettleman and motherfucking him as they are being shown the door.

All true, agreed

If memory serves, there was some grousing amongst Jaguars vets last spring about the harsh offseason program Coughlin installed

Don’t recall if we found out who, but they’re either not on the squad anymore, or now playing in the AFC championship game after beating a tough Steelers team in Pittsburgh.

Anyone thing some early negative feedback about Coughlin was a bad thing there?

In comment 13795081 Rflairr said:

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He doesnt come across as a people person.

I assume you are referring to Dave Gettleman. If so, I say WHO GIVES A FUCK! We don't need a people person. We need a kick-ass GM who will hold everyone accountable!

I hear this but no name's,sounds like back door bitching from people who don't matter.