do not get why anyone would question his ability to succeed at the next level if healthy. I was reading this article (linked below about the hypocrisy of college football) and thought that it represented an extremely hard take on college football, but an extremely accurate one. From all accounts, he was an honors student in high school with a perfect GPA, etc. He is a natural althlete, who was a top juniors tennis player, which would explain why he has such great footwork and presence in the pocket (Tennis is all about footwork.) If he scores high on the wonderlic, given his natural throwing abilities, I would not walk but run to the podium to select him. I think he is by far the best QB prospect and I would risk the injury issues because the shoulder does not seem serious at all, and the concussion issue as long as they rest after concussions and do not play while affected the modern science theorizes that it won't have the long lasting affects that it had in the past.
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Yes, I would. A WR or RB with an ACL would give me concern.
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If Darnold is gone, and the Giants don't like the medicals on Rosen. Trade down, grab a different QB and get an extra pick in the process.
Players that get hurt change the game completely.
I would not take a player with multiple concussions under any circumstance. At #2? With the financial commitment under the salary cap? That is a huge gamble that can set your franchise back years.
Yeah, what a disaster that Elway guy was.
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Yeah, what a disaster that Elway guy was.
Elway wasn't truly a great QB until his 11th season in the NFL. That said, I'd take prime Elway over anyone.
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winning football games which is also important.
Yeah, what a disaster that Elway guy was.
Elway wasn't truly a great QB until his 11th season in the NFL. That said, I'd take prime Elway over anyone.
I don't think it took til his 11th season for "The Drive" or him to take three Bronco teams to Super Bowls. He was a great QB from day 1 IMO.
On occasion Darnold gets reasonably close, but never consistently. Allen has a canon and looks poised, but inaccurate. Mayfield will win sooner than the rest and is extremely accurate. I would not mind him at all.
I'm just going by the eye test.
See Sam Darnold on that statement as well. Football is a team sport after all.
'19 is the earliest that happens.
Can we keep OBJ...build the OL...find at least 2 good DL..2 good LB..1 maybe 2 DBs..a 2 way TE ..a K and a P...and good backups in 2 offseasons?
And we'll need lots of medicals ( far more than our crack medical staff) on the knees and concussions to take the risk versus hoping to train up the next best QB...vs a QB at all at #2?
Also don't forget we are going to be spun this and that from teams or sources that stand to benefit from him falling on draft day. Trust what your eyes tell you.
When I watched Rosen vs. Darnold, it was clear who the best QB was on the field by a rather wide margin.
Players that get hurt change the game completely.
I would not take a player with multiple concussions under any circumstance. At #2? With the financial commitment under the salary cap? That is a huge gamble that can set your franchise back years.
I'm not trying to dismiss the consideration of concussions or injuries, because I think you're right on that front. But as it relates to the "financial commitment under the salary cap," are you aware of the fact that the most recent CBA drastically reduced the rookie wage scale?
Carson Wentz, as the #2 overall pick, signed a four-year contract worth $26.7MM, or roughly $6.7MM per year. By contrast, Josh McCown signed a one-year deal this past season for $6MM. McCown had a good season, but is, IMO, a fair representation of replacement level for the position.
So, my question to you is, how does an incremental $700K per annum represent "a huge gamble that can set your franchise back years"?
The real risk is in pissing away a shot at a difference maker with the #2 pick, but the salary cap is basically irrelevant to the decision.
I sure as hell would walk away
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winning football games which is also important.
Yeah, what a disaster that Elway guy was.
Elway wasn't truly a great QB until his 11th season in the NFL. That said, I'd take prime Elway over anyone.
It sure as hell didn’t take Elway 11 years to be a great QB