I do not like projecting trades...if you want to look at odds...they are overwhelmingly tipped towards NYG not trading the #2 pick.
So assuming that NYG stays put and they do not like the concerns surrounding the QBs (everyone has to admit that is at least a possibility right now)...this team goes in to the draft needing to build around Eli Manning one more time for 2018, possibly 2019.
Whether you have this unproven theory that running backs should not be taken this high or not, assume Saquon Barkley may be the strongest option available. I don't see any other players meeting the elite grade mark, and passing on a talent like him would be borderline foolish. I will say the evaluation process still has a little ways to go, so someone like a Bradley Chubb or a Connor Williams or a Minkah Fitzpatrick could warrant the #2 spot, but I am leaning towards that not happening.
So Barkley to NYG at #2...does this require them to take OL at the top of the 2nd round? Drafting solely based on need is never a good idea, kind of like going to the grocery store when you are hungry. What if, say a LB like Roquan Smith is there, do you pass on him for a guard? Or a tackle that may not be able to win the left tackle job?
That, just as much as what to do with the #2 pick, is as tough as it gets. All of this can be solved Gettleman gets really aggressive with the OL via free agency, but shelling out big dollars for the guys in this class would worry me just as much as relying on day 1/2 rookies. One thing is for certain, this team cannot go in to 2018 with what they left 2017 with along the OL.
We have some all-star-type players but a whole lot of nothing to go with those few assets.
Those who say force OL in the first round are being short-sighted. If Eli were three years younger, I would say Barkley. Now, I'm learning more towards QB. But Barkley is something special.
Whatever they do, they can't afford to screw this up. Not when you look at the wreckage that is our recent drafting past.
Gettleman gets Norwell from Carolina in FA.
1st Round - Barkley
2nd Round - Price
That has to improve the ground game significantly, no?
At least that is highly unlikely with Hart gone and Pugh, Richburg, and Fluker all UFAs!
I think (hope) they will sign at least one 'premium' OL in FA and 2-3 OL in total with Flowers/Jerry/Jones/Wheeler battling with the newcomers.
And assuming no trades, I'd put the odds of them grabbing at least 1 OL in rds 2-3 pretty high.
Ah, this tired argument rears it's ugly head. You don't leave a special player on the board because you don't have an OL yet.
If NYG can bring in a good FA OL and draft a good OL, the group can be good enough to warrant Barkley.
And I keep pointing to the Rams...their OL was worse than NYG for 2 years...couple fixes over 2 years and now they may have the most dangerous running back in football. I bet they are stoked they didn't look past Gurley
Gettleman gets Norwell from Carolina in FA.
1st Round - Barkley
2nd Round - Price
That has to improve the ground game significantly, no?
And assuming you throw Pugh to RT or LT? Yes I think that OL is better. Flowers still in the picture though AND you are gonna have a ton of money wrapped up in to Pugh/Norwell.
We have some all-star-type players but a whole lot of nothing to go with those few assets.
Those who say force OL in the first round are being short-sighted. If Eli were three years younger, I would say Barkley. Now, I'm learning more towards QB. But Barkley is something special.
Whatever they do, they can't afford to screw this up. Not when you look at the wreckage that is our recent drafting past.
With every passing day, this is becoming how I look at things. I lean QB, but only if that QB is "the guy". Has to be someone they view as a franchise QB, clean medical history, good leader. Is that Rosen, I don't know but I'm leaning towards no. Might be Darnold and might be Allen. We shall see.
To me Barkley is can't miss and if you come away with Barkley in the first round you probably can't complain about it...until 2020 when there is no Eli and you have to roll the dice with Webb. If you go the Barkley route, you are probably banking on Shurmur being the QB guru and working a minor miracle with Webb, another later round QB, or a journeyman.
Gettleman will pick up some offensive line pieces in FA, and I'm sure he will take a strong look at the lineman in the second. But if Smith is there in the 2nd and he is higher on your board then the lineman, pull the plug on Smith. He seems like a talented backer, something we haven't had since Antonio Pierce.
This roster can use talent at every position. Take the talent when you get offered it.
BTW, with the exception of Fournette,there are no highly drafted runners who are playing Sunday. You don't need great runners to win the Super Bowl.
A truly "special" RB would add at least 0.2-0.3 ypc to the 'ordinary' production of those two. So you don't *need* a dominant OL to have a respectable ground game, especially since a healthy Beckham pretty much guarantees 7 man fronts, at least until the Giants show they can't be stopped on the ground.
That being said, I disagree with the Barkley pick. I like his skill set, but I don't think he's special enough to warrant being picked that high. I also think the RBs need to be interchangebale due to the high risk of injury. If there is an OL or a DL that is the same value pointwise, I'd rather go that route. Everyone says we won't be limited in spending but I dont think that will be true, especially when we see what FAs like Norwell will command in the open market.
They have Gallman, Perkins, add Ronald Jones later in the draft. Or Michel, or Penny.
If they pass on a QB, they might have to pay a kings ransom to be in this position again to acquire a QB.
Of course, they need to really feel strongly about Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield to pick the right guy.
But drafting a position is a bad idea.
BTW, with the exception of Fournette,there are no highly drafted runners who are playing Sunday. You don't need great runners to win the Super Bowl.
If you are going to use that as your anti-RB claim, you have to say that QBs don't need to be taken early either.
But drafting a position is a bad idea.
+1 They need to add at least two decent-good starters in FA plus a re-sign of either Pugh or Fluker imo.
If they pass on a QB, they might have to pay a kings ransom to be in this position again to acquire a QB.
Of course, they need to really feel strongly about Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield to pick the right guy.
Totally agree with this. Everyone loves Eli, it doesn’t make you a bad fan to realize he has very little left. Unless the Giants think that all the QBs are not good, QB has to be the pick. Yes they could trade down or something but going with the assumption we stay at 2. Take a QB and start building.
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Gettleman gets Norwell from Carolina in FA.
1st Round - Barkley
2nd Round - Price
That has to improve the ground game significantly, no?
And assuming you throw Pugh to RT or LT? Yes I think that OL is better. Flowers still in the picture though AND you are gonna have a ton of money wrapped up in to Pugh/Norwell.
Who is going to play RT/LT for the games that Pugh sits out due to injury? This year he managed 8 games. We need someone that can be counted on.
Gettleman will pick up some offensive line pieces in FA, and I'm sure he will take a strong look at the lineman in the second. But if Smith is there in the 2nd and he is higher on your board then the lineman, pull the plug on Smith. He seems like a talented backer, something we haven't had since Antonio Pierce.
This roster can use talent at every position. Take the talent when you get offered it.
Agreed.
BTW, do you have the other top runners ranked that far behind Barkley?
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What about this?
Gettleman gets Norwell from Carolina in FA.
1st Round - Barkley
2nd Round - Price
That has to improve the ground game significantly, no?
And assuming you throw Pugh to RT or LT? Yes I think that OL is better. Flowers still in the picture though AND you are gonna have a ton of money wrapped up in to Pugh/Norwell.
Who is going to play RT/LT for the games that Pugh sits out due to injury? This year he managed 8 games. We need someone that can be counted on.
Excellent point re Pugh. Counting on him is fraught with risk of injury. And simply isn't tha good that you commit big $$ and years to him.
That said, if the worst case scenario for the Giants is a potential All-Pro RB, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
Keep in mind we have a high 2nd and high 3rd round pick -
which I imagine there will be plenty of OL in the mix for those selections. There will be top 45-60 ranked players available when we are picking in the 3rd round.
As of now, I'm leaning towards the following:
1. Sign 1 or 2 starting caliber or better OL in free agency
2. Draft Barkley at 2
3. Focus on LB/DE/OL in rounds 2-4
LT: Draftee/ Penn
LG: Norwell
C: Richburg
RG: Fluker
RT: Flowers
The following year will be used to remedy any further OL shortcomings. The point for next season is to stabilize the line and point it in a forward direction. It may be too much to expect that it can be fixed in one year, regardless of what the Vikings have done.
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Gettleman gets Norwell from Carolina in FA.
1st Round - Barkley
2nd Round - Price
That has to improve the ground game significantly, no?
And assuming you throw Pugh to RT or LT? Yes I think that OL is better. Flowers still in the picture though AND you are gonna have a ton of money wrapped up in to Pugh/Norwell. [/quote]
I love Smith...but at 2 with Rosen, Barkley, Chubb on the board...that's a really tough sell. If we traded back to the 7-12 range - Smith would be a fantastic pick there.
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Two paths:
Move on, draft a QB at #2, find a way to unload Eli's 22M cap number to rebuild, sign OBJ and LC.
Stay with ELi, strengthen the OL in FA, draft Barkley at #2 and use the next round to get more competition at OL, an edge rusher & get some fast LBs in here. Trade down if the value is so great you can improve 3 to 4 positions.....two #1s and Two #2s....it could be the usual bullshit but a lot of people are saying Barkley is the best player in the draft.
I still think the opinion that Gettlman and Shurmer have regarding Davis Webb has great importance. But they need to shit or get off the pot! Pick a direction and go all in no matter who's feelings it hurts.
- Drafting a RB that high just seems foolish to me. I'm not comparing Barkley and McCaffrey, but all we heard last year was how McCaffrey was this amazing prospect, yet the "gap" between him and Kumara, Kareem Hunt, and even a Tarik Cohen doesn't seem to have been worth using such a valuable pick on a RB.
I feel like people are searching for reasons not to draft a QB, but I like all 3 of these guys. I also think we have a really good situation for a young QB to grow into without being thrown to the wolves or searching for weapons when he eventually does play. It also doesn't help that I don't love any of the other prospects. The best OL by a mile is Nelson. Chubb is really good, but I don't think that's the right fit. I like Fitzpatrick, but I don't see him as a special prospect.
The thing with Barkley is he runs back kicks, can go out into the slot, he blocks, and he breaks big runs, a lot of them. BUT IF WE CAN'T BLOCK, HOW GOOD WILL HE BE?????
Like all have you have been saying....they need to get it right!
So I am just looking through glasses built upon what I call the Gettleman Creed. Run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer (and kick some ass in the process).
So I think Barkley in Round 1 fits that creed. A lot of positions fit the creed. Some do not fit as well. Such as WR or CB or S. So mentally I am ruling out those positions at the second pick in the draft.
On to round 2. Does Roquan Smith make sense? Well, I think he fits quite nicely.
I live in Atlanta so I saw a lot of UGA football this year. Obviously I'm not scouting expert. What I saw is a guy who loves to play, flies around, super competitive, and makes big time hits, without getting hurt. From my amateurish perspective, this is a guy who fits in beautifully with "stop the run" and also "rush the passer". He blitzed quite nicely at times.
Run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer.
Not all our Offensive Lineman are bad players. Gettleman said that in his press conference. Injuries killed us. Pugh, Richburg and Fluker, with Jones as a backup are not a bad interior group ad they might not get big $$$s. Flowers looked like he was getting better but he regressed. I'd love Norwell, the FA guard from Carolina but he might get huge money.
But, Sy is spot on, if they can solidify the OL in Free Agency they will get a lot more alternatives instead of reaching for OLs in the draft. A few years back we went into the draft saying we had to draft a tackle and that has not turned out so well.
Eli has been part of the problem. A guy with his salary is expected to uplift and overcome some of the deficiencies on the team, a. k. a. Russell Wilson Rogers when healthy, even Bree's.
Eli didn t do that. I have always been an Eli fan. But in my opinion he best serves the Giants by starting until the next young kid is ready. Don t build for next season at the expense of the next 10.
...at #2; on the other hand, if you go with Saquon Barkley he could definitely take the pressure off our QB, whether it's Eli or Webb. (And that's not a bad thing)!!!
After free agency, I expect to see the following starters:
Flowers at somewhere other than LT; lets say RT
Fluker or a new RG; Jerry as backup at both guard spots
Jones at center
Pugh or a new LG
A new LT
Flowers is still a better prospect than anyone in the draft below the 1st round. Just not a LT.
And thank you Sy'56 for bringing some professional realism to the BBI chaos.
We have some all-star-type players but a whole lot of nothing to go with those few assets.
Those who say force OL in the first round are being short-sighted. If Eli were three years younger, I would say Barkley. Now, I'm learning more towards QB. But Barkley is something special.
Whatever they do, they can't afford to screw this up. Not when you look at the wreckage that is our recent drafting past.
Eric, your first two sentences: +1 +1 +1
Those who say a piece or two on the OL and a CB, or maybe a WR and we are SB contenders in '18 would be the same folks who, over and over and over, after each of the past five drafts, say, NYG have a top 2 D, or in the alternative, a top 2 O, etc.
2. Shurmur will have spent some time with Webb and will have at least gauged his arm strength.
If there is no FA OL signed and Pugh is lost the Giants' hand is forced. They have to take one in the 1st or 2nd, maybe both. What good is Barkley if he is gets so beat up in his rookie year his potential is permanently diminished? Who do I taken then? Quinten Nelson, even at #2.
As far as the need for a QB goes if there have been some signings I'll rely on Shurmur's and Gettleman's judgement. If they don't go QB Fitzpatrick and Collins would be the best safety tandem in the league. Chubb would give juice to the pass rush.
I agree. There is a lot talent at the QB position. Potentially 6 QBs could go RD 1. What’s the record for first rd QBs taken?
And that line was STILL better than the Giants OL.
Not coming out of the Draft and/or Free Agency with 2 new Tackles would be very close to gross negligence.
Not infusing some talent to the Linebacker unit would be regular negligence...
jeez this draft is good at rb...and rb's are position of dime or dozen.
take best qb..teams that ignore the position flounder for years trying to get a franchise qb..I'm sure 1 of these qbs will turn out to be a franchise one. homework. and to build around a 37 yr qb, is plain stupid imo
Not coming out of the Draft and/or Free Agency with 2 new Tackles would be very close to gross negligence.
Not infusing some talent to the Linebacker unit would be regular negligence...
I feel the same way. Grab a QB and you have Webb and the draftee and hope one or both pans out. If both look good you can trade one.
Which means that they should probably take a QB at #2.
With Eli and a good scheme, health, OL, RB, yadda, yadda, they don’t sniff the top of the draft for another two years. And then, it’s too late.
Giants need a franchise QB and they may not be in this draft position again anytime soon.
Darnold and Rosen are franchise QBs well worth the #2 pick in the draft. The team that picks them is potentially set at the most important position on the field for the next 10-15 years. The team that picks Barkley can't say that.
It’s a dereliction of duty so egregious that DG should be fired on the spot. If Manning is 27, then fine. But Manning is 37 and deep on the back nine of his career. And there are 3 QB prospects that could easily spell another 10+ years of competitive play. If you think playing QB is easy to play now, compared to when QBs were treated with disdain like the other 21 players on the field, wait until 3+ years from now when the QB is wearing a belt around his waste with flags attached to it...
Can Gettleman get a Andrew Norwell in FA to play guard and an offensive lineman in Rd 2 then the offense will roll with the proper coach and OC
Eli mentors Webb for another year
Now we just need a pass rush and some LBs
No. He'll go in the Top 10.
If you’re looking for an alternative approach to the draft, load up on value defensive talent. Hope to hit on OL in FA/late in the draft.
1. Chubb DE
2. Jefferson LB
And go from there.
If you’re looking for an alternative approach to the draft, load up on value defensive talent. Hope to hit on OL in FA/late in the draft.
1. Chubb DE
2. Jefferson LB
And go from there.
Hoping to hit on on OL late in the draft is the Jerry Reese approach to improve the OL which didn't work.
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At this point, I think anything is possible with Flowers. LT, RT, RG, benched.
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
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At CGS event. Picked some brains at the end of the nights at the bar. Lots of raving about Notre Dame OL Nelson. Apparently he's a no brainer All Star type at the next level. Any possible way he gets to 2nd round?
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
Picking a G at #2 would be unheard of.
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There are 5-6 RBs just as good as Barkley, many projecting 1-2 rounds later.
If you’re looking for an alternative approach to the draft, load up on value defensive talent. Hope to hit on OL in FA/late in the draft.
1. Chubb DE
2. Jefferson LB
And go from there.
Hoping to hit on on OL late in the draft is the Jerry Reese approach to improve the OL which didn't work.
I agree. But the OP is suggesting an alternative approach to the draft with no trade downs. In that scenario, the logical decision would be to build around the talent we have on defense and be a kick ass defensive squad next year. Chubb and Jefferson would be nice value picks at the Giants slot.
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There are 5-6 RBs just as good as Barkley
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He's more right than wrong. Kerryon Johnson has the goods. Had he not been hurt for the Georgia game in the SEC championship game, a great case could have been made that he was the Heisman winner...great prospect.
Sonny Michel is just as talented as Barkley. What can't he do?
You can be suspicious of his competition, but Penny's production has been nothing short of spectacular.
I think Guice is has skills that just weren't exposed at LSU because the QB play was so incompetent. I think he could be a terrific receiver and flourish with quality NFL QB...
I'm actually a big fan of the Hines kid for NC State. Every game I saw he was doing something good. Low tread on his tire as he had few touches his frosh and soph years. Could be a real find...
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At CGS event. Picked some brains at the end of the nights at the bar. Lots of raving about Notre Dame OL Nelson. Apparently he's a no brainer All Star type at the next level. Any possible way he gets to 2nd round?
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
Picking a G at #2 would be unheard of.
Drafting a QB at #2 may not be ideal, especially if they don't like the warts on the prospects out there, and considering a new QB needs an Oline in front of him, which they don't have, and needs to be built, putting a new QB out behind a mess of a line may just get him killed or ruin him. It would be kind of hysterical to find out a new QB is even less able to run an offense than Manning is in his current state, and instead finds himself running for his life as opposed to running the offense. Kinda like finding out that although we thought Coughlin was over the hill and new blood would be the cure for what ails us, instead it was the steady hand of experience that was what really kept everything together, as opposed to being the problem.
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At CGS event. Picked some brains at the end of the nights at the bar. Lots of raving about Notre Dame OL Nelson. Apparently he's a no brainer All Star type at the next level. Any possible way he gets to 2nd round?
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
Picking a G at #2 would be unheard of.
He was picked as a tackle but failed at that position, so they were forced to move him inside.
Gettleman will pick up some offensive line pieces in FA, and I'm sure he will take a strong look at the lineman in the second. But if Smith is there in the 2nd and he is higher on your board then the lineman, pull the plug on Smith. He seems like a talented backer, something we haven't had since Antonio Pierce.
This roster can use talent at every position. Take the talent when you get offered it.
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At CGS event. Picked some brains at the end of the nights at the bar. Lots of raving about Notre Dame OL Nelson. Apparently he's a no brainer All Star type at the next level. Any possible way he gets to 2nd round?
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
Picking a G at #2 would be unheard of.
He was picked as a tackle but failed at that position, so they were forced to move him inside.
Obviously I'm not advocating taking him at 2 which is why mentioned 2nd round.
Funny Gallery is mentioned though bc he came up in that conversation. We had a bit of a debate on whether he was a "bust" or not. To me he clearly was but some good points brought up that he was drafted out of position and was a good guard. Wasn't and should have never been a LT.
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At CGS event. Picked some brains at the end of the nights at the bar. Lots of raving about Notre Dame OL Nelson. Apparently he's a no brainer All Star type at the next level. Any possible way he gets to 2nd round?
I don't think so. He is a top 20 lock in my eyes.
Picking a G at #2 would be unheard of.
He was picked as a tackle but failed at that position, so they were forced to move him inside.
Obviously I'm not advocating taking him at 2 which is why mentioned 2nd round.
Funny Gallery is mentioned though bc he came up in that conversation. We had a bit of a debate on whether he was a "bust" or not. To me he clearly was but some good points brought up that he was drafted out of position and was a good guard. Wasn't and should have never been a LT.
I'm with you on going OL in the second. BPA at either OT or OG.
I have had this exact thought multiple times this past two weeks, and I like Barkley as a player. at the #2 pick overall he immediately becomes one of the highest paid RB's in the league.
This is why high draft picks tend to go toward QB, DE, WR, and Shutdown CB types because the value per dollar on the rookie contract is outstanding compared to the second contract especially if you are talking a top notch NFL player.
Don't take the easy way out with this post. Of course if there is garbage at QB in this draft you don't take one. But you know that is not the case nor can anyone be 100% sure.
You pick a QB this year at #2. Otherwise, you gotta sell that spot.
Come on...
First, there's a much better success rate hitting on RBs in the middle to later rounds than any other position. Thats where teams like us, with holes all over the roster, take RBs.
Its also a very bad way to allocate our cap dollars. He'd immediately be the 4th highest paid RB in the league. Now if its a QB, he's not even in the top 20 highest paid. Big difference which allows for a lot of flexibility with the rest of the roster.
And its nothing like Gurley. He was selected 10th overall not 2nd. Thats a big difference in pay and secondly, after Winston and Mariota there wasn't a QB selected until the 3rd round. I'm sure the Rams are happy they got him but if they were picking 2nd overall in 2015 and being a QB needy team they would've been the team selecting Mariota. Instead the very following year the Rams had to give up nearly 2 drafts to move up to get Goff.
I understand the allure of getting a RB like Barkley especially today where most fans are more concerned with their fantasy rosters but selecting a RB with the #2 pick in the draft, thats a luxury pick. Look at this roster, do we have the luxury?
He is perfect for it physically and seems to have the mental side of being a pro perfected.
How ready he is to succeed is anyone's guess.
First, there's a much better success rate hitting on RBs in the middle to later rounds than any other position. Thats where teams like us, with holes all over the roster, take RBs.
Its also a very bad way to allocate our cap dollars. He'd immediately be the 4th highest paid RB in the league. Now if its a QB, he's not even in the top 20 highest paid. Big difference which allows for a lot of flexibility with the rest of the roster.
And its nothing like Gurley. He was selected 10th overall not 2nd. Thats a big difference in pay and secondly, after Winston and Mariota there wasn't a QB selected until the 3rd round. I'm sure the Rams are happy they got him but if they were picking 2nd overall in 2015 and being a QB needy team they would've been the team selecting Mariota. Instead the very following year the Rams had to give up nearly 2 drafts to move up to get Goff.
I understand the allure of getting a RB like Barkley especially today where most fans are more concerned with their fantasy rosters but selecting a RB with the #2 pick in the draft, thats a luxury pick. Look at this roster, do we have the luxury?
Very, very well said.
Jones is a backup IMO
I would go LB in the 2nd
“The whole purpose of free agency is to set up your draft. You never go into a draft saying ‘I gotta have a,’ whatever that ‘a’ is. You don’t want to be in that spot because now you’re shopping hungry,” Gettleman said during a Tuesday appearance on WFAN.
“We’ll use free agency. There’s always the trade route, there’s always the waiver wire. You’ve gotta do your film work. It’s not pretty, it’s not easy but you’ve gotta get it done.”
The glaring holes (notably the OL, probably LB and RB) will be addressed before the draft. They likely won't be finished products, but those positions will be better than they are now. The #2 pick will be whoever Gettleman has at the top of the board. That may be a QB or Barkley or Chubb or someone else.
Same as any position, really.
At some point you just have to hope that the guys who get paid handsomely to assess a prospect's NFL talent level nail this one. If they determine Barkley is worthy of a top-5 choice and are proven right, fine by me.
First, there's a much better success rate hitting on RBs in the middle to later rounds than any other position. Thats where teams like us, with holes all over the roster, take RBs.
Its also a very bad way to allocate our cap dollars. He'd immediately be the 4th highest paid RB in the league. Now if its a QB, he's not even in the top 20 highest paid. Big difference which allows for a lot of flexibility with the rest of the roster.
And its nothing like Gurley. He was selected 10th overall not 2nd. Thats a big difference in pay and secondly, after Winston and Mariota there wasn't a QB selected until the 3rd round. I'm sure the Rams are happy they got him but if they were picking 2nd overall in 2015 and being a QB needy team they would've been the team selecting Mariota. Instead the very following year the Rams had to give up nearly 2 drafts to move up to get Goff.
I understand the allure of getting a RB like Barkley especially today where most fans are more concerned with their fantasy rosters but selecting a RB with the #2 pick in the draft, thats a luxury pick. Look at this roster, do we have the luxury?
Fantastic assessment.
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1. We will know if an OL was signed as a FA and who has left.
2. Shurmur will have spent some time with Webb and will have at least gauged his arm strength.
If there is no FA OL signed and Pugh is lost the Giants' hand is forced. They have to take one in the 1st or 2nd, maybe both. What good is Barkley if he is gets so beat up in his rookie year his potential is permanently diminished? Who do I taken then? Quinten Nelson, even at #2.
As far as the need for a QB goes if there have been some signings I'll rely on Shurmur's and Gettleman's judgement. If they don't go QB Fitzpatrick and Collins would be the best safety tandem in the league. Chubb would give juice to the pass rush.
I love Chub as well but Gallman survived ok as did the injury prone Darkwa ..
Barkley is a tough shifty is putting it lightly that would have taken many a run to the house this past season the guy has amazing vision a HR hitter ad WR and RB ..
Fix the line get a few LB take some of the heat off Collins .If Smith LB is there in the 2nd jump on him !