I do not like projecting trades...if you want to look at odds...they are overwhelmingly tipped towards NYG not trading the #2 pick.
So assuming that NYG stays put and they do not like the concerns surrounding the QBs (everyone has to admit that is at least a possibility right now)...this team goes in to the draft needing to build around Eli Manning one more time for 2018, possibly 2019.
Whether you have this unproven theory that running backs should not be taken this high or not, assume Saquon Barkley may be the strongest option available. I don't see any other players meeting the elite grade mark, and passing on a talent like him would be borderline foolish. I will say the evaluation process still has a little ways to go, so someone like a Bradley Chubb or a Connor Williams or a Minkah Fitzpatrick could warrant the #2 spot, but I am leaning towards that not happening.
So Barkley to NYG at #2...does this require them to take OL at the top of the 2nd round? Drafting solely based on need is never a good idea, kind of like going to the grocery store when you are hungry. What if, say a LB like Roquan Smith is there, do you pass on him for a guard? Or a tackle that may not be able to win the left tackle job?
That, just as much as what to do with the #2 pick, is as tough as it gets. All of this can be solved Gettleman gets really aggressive with the OL via free agency, but shelling out big dollars for the guys in this class would worry me just as much as relying on day 1/2 rookies. One thing is for certain, this team cannot go in to 2018 with what they left 2017 with along the OL.
He is perfect for it physically and seems to have the mental side of being a pro perfected.
How ready he is to succeed is anyone's guess.
First, there's a much better success rate hitting on RBs in the middle to later rounds than any other position. Thats where teams like us, with holes all over the roster, take RBs.
Its also a very bad way to allocate our cap dollars. He'd immediately be the 4th highest paid RB in the league. Now if its a QB, he's not even in the top 20 highest paid. Big difference which allows for a lot of flexibility with the rest of the roster.
And its nothing like Gurley. He was selected 10th overall not 2nd. Thats a big difference in pay and secondly, after Winston and Mariota there wasn't a QB selected until the 3rd round. I'm sure the Rams are happy they got him but if they were picking 2nd overall in 2015 and being a QB needy team they would've been the team selecting Mariota. Instead the very following year the Rams had to give up nearly 2 drafts to move up to get Goff.
I understand the allure of getting a RB like Barkley especially today where most fans are more concerned with their fantasy rosters but selecting a RB with the #2 pick in the draft, thats a luxury pick. Look at this roster, do we have the luxury?
Very, very well said.
Jones is a backup IMO
I would go LB in the 2nd
“The whole purpose of free agency is to set up your draft. You never go into a draft saying ‘I gotta have a,’ whatever that ‘a’ is. You don’t want to be in that spot because now you’re shopping hungry,” Gettleman said during a Tuesday appearance on WFAN.
“We’ll use free agency. There’s always the trade route, there’s always the waiver wire. You’ve gotta do your film work. It’s not pretty, it’s not easy but you’ve gotta get it done.”
The glaring holes (notably the OL, probably LB and RB) will be addressed before the draft. They likely won't be finished products, but those positions will be better than they are now. The #2 pick will be whoever Gettleman has at the top of the board. That may be a QB or Barkley or Chubb or someone else.
Same as any position, really.
At some point you just have to hope that the guys who get paid handsomely to assess a prospect's NFL talent level nail this one. If they determine Barkley is worthy of a top-5 choice and are proven right, fine by me.
First, there's a much better success rate hitting on RBs in the middle to later rounds than any other position. Thats where teams like us, with holes all over the roster, take RBs.
Its also a very bad way to allocate our cap dollars. He'd immediately be the 4th highest paid RB in the league. Now if its a QB, he's not even in the top 20 highest paid. Big difference which allows for a lot of flexibility with the rest of the roster.
And its nothing like Gurley. He was selected 10th overall not 2nd. Thats a big difference in pay and secondly, after Winston and Mariota there wasn't a QB selected until the 3rd round. I'm sure the Rams are happy they got him but if they were picking 2nd overall in 2015 and being a QB needy team they would've been the team selecting Mariota. Instead the very following year the Rams had to give up nearly 2 drafts to move up to get Goff.
I understand the allure of getting a RB like Barkley especially today where most fans are more concerned with their fantasy rosters but selecting a RB with the #2 pick in the draft, thats a luxury pick. Look at this roster, do we have the luxury?
Fantastic assessment.
njm : 1/18/2018 5:00 pm : link : reply
1. We will know if an OL was signed as a FA and who has left.
2. Shurmur will have spent some time with Webb and will have at least gauged his arm strength.
If there is no FA OL signed and Pugh is lost the Giants' hand is forced. They have to take one in the 1st or 2nd, maybe both. What good is Barkley if he is gets so beat up in his rookie year his potential is permanently diminished? Who do I taken then? Quinten Nelson, even at #2.
As far as the need for a QB goes if there have been some signings I'll rely on Shurmur's and Gettleman's judgement. If they don't go QB Fitzpatrick and Collins would be the best safety tandem in the league. Chubb would give juice to the pass rush.
I love Chub as well but Gallman survived ok as did the injury prone Darkwa ..
Barkley is a tough shifty is putting it lightly that would have taken many a run to the house this past season the guy has amazing vision a HR hitter ad WR and RB ..
Fix the line get a few LB take some of the heat off Collins .If Smith LB is there in the 2nd jump on him !