What is the best scenario?

Option B is intriguing but Rosen's concussion's make him too big of a risk.

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At some point this Oline needs an infusion of young talent.

Evaluates Webb extensively before the draft and likes what he sees. Then we can trade down and grab an extra pick or 2 and get more help.

...although Rosen plus O-line might be better

Guice will be gone in Round 1.

I'm going to say this again because I don't think it's getting enough attention: Lamar Jackson outrushed Saquon Barkley both last year and over the course of their careers and never missed a game. He is a Michael Vick-level athlete at quarterback who has shown as much or more durability than the other quarterback prospects despite the significantly higher work load.

To get both Barkley and (IMO) the best QB prospect in this class would be a coup.

In comment 13795625 Go Terps said:

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I'm going to say this again because I don't think it's getting enough attention: Lamar Jackson outrushed Saquon Barkley both last year and over the course of their careers and never missed a game. He is a Michael Vick-level athlete at quarterback who has shown as much or more durability than the other quarterback prospects despite the significantly higher work load. To get both Barkley and (IMO) the best QB prospect in this class would be a coup.

So you want to cluster draft two RBs at the top of the draft?

(kidding)

If you want a runner in the second round Joes would be a great selection. He averaged about 6 yards per carry for his career and this year he ran for over 1500 yards,and 20 TD's. A very impressive stat is that he had 275 touches and ZERO fumbles. Jones is fast and tough which is a good combination.

I've suggested Option A several times.

That'd be my preference.

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But out of those three? C.

In comment 13795633 yatqb said:

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I'm almost positive he will be pending the Combine. He had a down 2017 year, RB's usually fall in the draft, 4-6 QB's might get picked in the 1st rd.

bring back Mr. Nickels

Is just stupid in my opinion. It’s one thing if it was a weak draft for QBs. And I would rather gamble on Webb than someone like Jackson in the second round.

If you’re going to spend a number 2 overall pick on a RB you better damn well already have a good OL built.

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happen. B and C sone of those players probably won't be there. I'd be perfectly happy with Jackson and Barkley

By far, in my opinion. Best RB, maybe the best QB in the draft

Jackson won’t be there at 34.

The Giants need to beef up interior of offense and defense.
trade down get all the OL/DL/LB you can over next 2 years
If there are reasonable FA's at those positions get them.
No need for QB at this time. Eli will be around 2 years minimum, unless GREAT trade offer.See what Webb has.
OPTION D

RB in 1
BPA rd 2 thru 4
P in rd 5
prospects in 6 & 7

In comment 13795625 Go Terps said:

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I'm going to say this again because I don't think it's getting enough attention: Lamar Jackson outrushed Saquon Barkley both last year and over the course of their careers and never missed a game. He is a Michael Vick-level athlete at quarterback who has shown as much or more durability than the other quarterback prospects despite the significantly higher work load. To get both Barkley and (IMO) the best QB prospect in this class would be a coup.

id take A but jackson isnt the best QB in the class...guy has serious accuracy issues. lets see his durability when taking NFL hits....

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In comment 13795665 Giantslifer said:

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The Giants need to beef up interior of offense and defense. trade down get all the OL/DL/LB you can over next 2 years If there are reasonable FA's at those positions get them. No need for QB at this time. Eli will be around 2 years minimum, unless GREAT trade offer.See what Webb has. OPTION D

I'm in this camp as well. Wouldn't mind Fitzpatrick in Rd 1 either.

Trade back to 5 and take either Fitz or Nelson would be my ideal scenario. Then load up with players from there. We could possibly get three of the top 35-40 players in this draft plus whatever extra in next.

Trade down with Cleveland for picks #4 & #33, plus Joe Thomas. Trade down again with the Broncos or Jets, obtaining either the #5 & #37 or the #6 & #38. Trade back up so as to have the #5 or #6 along with another 1st rounder somewhere in the teens and still keep our own pick at #34.

I would draft LT-Mike McGlinchey, LG-Quenton Nelson, and C-Billy Price to go along with re-signing Jones, re-signing Fluker, and moving Flowers to RT.

But not a chance in hell that Lamar Jackson last to the 2nd round.

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In comment 13795625 Go Terps said:

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I'm going to say this again because I don't think it's getting enough attention: Lamar Jackson outrushed Saquon Barkley both last year and over the course of their careers and never missed a game. He is a Michael Vick-level athlete at quarterback who has shown as much or more durability than the other quarterback prospects despite the significantly higher work load. To get both Barkley and (IMO) the best QB prospect in this class would be a coup.

How is Jackson the best qb prospect when some in the NFL think he’s ultimately going to end up at WR? HARD pass on this guy.

B or C.

but iffy as to whether he is the franchise QB, maybe you go with a high risk, high reward QB pick. Rosen is the only QB win the draft who isn't high risk.

I would like to see Lamar Jackson try to be successful but I'm not sure he should try with the Giants.

In comment 13795611 Spider56 said:

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Evaluates Webb extensively before the draft and likes what he sees. Then we can trade down and grab an extra pick or 2 and get more help.

+1

...but LJ has a lot of Vince Young about him; poor accuracy on long throws, can't throw outside the hashes, and while he has great zip on his throws, he guides them more than throws them...in other words, an NFL kick returner or slot receiver lol.

In comment 13795731 GeorgeAdams33 said:

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Trade down with Cleveland for picks #4 & #33, plus Joe Thomas. Trade down again with the Broncos or Jets, obtaining either the #5 & #37 or the #6 & #38. Trade back up so as to have the #5 or #6 along with another 1st rounder somewhere in the teens and still keep our own pick at #34. I would draft LT-Mike McGlinchey, LG-Quenton Nelson, and C-Billy Price to go along with re-signing Jones, re-signing Fluker, and moving Flowers to RT.

I'm for that. Worked out nicely for Dallas

though Darnold may not be only choice.

In comment 13795814 Alan in Toledo said:

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In comment 13795611 Spider56 said: Quote: Evaluates Webb extensively before the draft and likes what he sees. Then we can trade down and grab an extra pick or 2 and get more help. +1

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In comment 13795823 hitchchops2 said:

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...but LJ has a lot of Vince Young about him; poor accuracy on long throws, can't throw outside the hashes, and while he has great zip on his throws, he guides them more than throws them...in other words, an NFL kick returner or slot receiver lol.

Here's what we know about Jackson: an offense was run with him at the helm where he produced more than any of these other quarterback prospects. He was extremely productive against FSU and Clemson...it's not like he was only good against inferior competition.

I agree he's not the best pure passer, but there's an offense that exists where this guy destroys games. We know because he was basically a one man team and won a Heisman doing it.

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can get a franchise QB and franchise back in the first 2 picks, they had better do it.

.. I don’t see Lamar being a stud in the NFL for the next decade. He might flash but defenses will catch up to him. You must win from the pocket in the NFL.

As Guice will he just as good as Barkley. Guice won’t last that long though

If you think a QB has the goods to be a franchise QB, you take him, regardless what his name is or isn't. If not, then you go BPA for round 1 and 2

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In comment 13795828 OC2.0 said:

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In comment 13795731 GeorgeAdams33 said: Quote: Trade down with Cleveland for picks #4 & #33, plus Joe Thomas. Trade down again with the Broncos or Jets, obtaining either the #5 & #37 or the #6 & #38. Trade back up so as to have the #5 or #6 along with another 1st rounder somewhere in the teens and still keep our own pick at #34. I would draft LT-Mike McGlinchey, LG-Quenton Nelson, and C-Billy Price to go along with re-signing Jones, re-signing Fluker, and moving Flowers to RT. I'm for that. Worked out nicely for Dallas

I like it too but not crazy about McGlinchey.

Round 1 - Saquon Barkley
Round 2 - Billy Price

This with a couple of good ol signed in free agency gives us a very good run game.

In comment 13795895 Ira said:

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Round 1 - Saquon Barkley Round 2 - Billy Price This with a couple of good ol signed in free agency gives us a very good run game.

Yea that's my thought.
Add norwell or solder and draft Barkley....give Eli a run game plus improve the OL. Eval Webb one more year

To a run first qb like Jackson. I kind of believe in those types and love watching them play, believe me I do, but I'm not sure I want the Giants to build their team around that type of qb. It's risky. Tell me the guy is another Russell Wilson or Watson and that's another story. Most aren't.

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Came into the NFL with a passers perigee. Jackson won't in with the polished passing pedigree, not by a long shot, arm strength be damned.

I won't cry about it, but I don't love the idea of taking Jackson. I'm sure I'd go bananas the first time he ran for 25 yards on 3rd and 12 but those qbs just don't exhibit any real staying power unless they adapt and adjust their game to fit the NFL.

Take Darnold and draft Guice, if he’s there, if not the best available OLineman.

Who is probably the greatest running qb of all time and a guy with a freakish skill set. Guy could throw the ball to the moon with the flick of a wrist. As good as he was, I wouldn't take his career arch if I'm drafting a franchise qb. Not good enough.

1. Young adult Jesus
2. Santa Clause

Because that’s how realistic A and B are.

The huge majority of his runs at Louisville were by design. As a passer he was actually patient and poised in the pocket. I've posted this video comparing Jackson and Allen a couple times. Jackson is composed in the pocket while Allen is frantic...yet Allen is generally viewed as the better prospect. Watch the clips in the video...Jackson hangs tough in the pocket and uses his A+++++ athletic ability to create passing opportunities.

There are a bunch of non-elite passers making plays in the NFL because they can move: Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor to name a few. None of these guys is in Jackson's universe as an athlete, but he's in theirs as a passer.

Shurmur has the reputation for working well with different types of QBs...I think there's a good chance he'd get the most out of Jackson. And if we're talking ceilings, Jackson's has to be the highest of the whole bunch because his elite trait is much greater than anyone else's.

In comment 13795961 Go Terps said:

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The huge majority of his runs at Louisville were by design. As a passer he was actually patient and poised in the pocket. I've posted this video comparing Jackson and Allen a couple times. Jackson is composed in the pocket while Allen is frantic...yet Allen is generally viewed as the better prospect. Watch the clips in the video...Jackson hangs tough in the pocket and uses his A+++++ athletic ability to create passing opportunities. There are a bunch of non-elite passers making plays in the NFL because they can move: Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor to name a few. None of these guys is in Jackson's universe as an athlete, but he's in theirs as a passer. Shurmur has the reputation for working well with different types of QBs...I think there's a good chance he'd get the most out of Jackson. And if we're talking ceilings, Jackson's has to be the highest of the whole bunch because his elite trait is much greater than anyone else's.

All of those QBs are trash except Wilson, Wentz, Cam, and Watson. Wentz and Watson are coming off serious knee injuries because of being the type of QB you describe. Cam can’t get over the hump because of his accuracy issues. Seattle went from a dominant team to now a fringe playoff team because they paid Wilson.

In comment 13795961 Go Terps said:

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The huge majority of his runs at Louisville were by design. As a passer he was actually patient and poised in the pocket. I've posted this video comparing Jackson and Allen a couple times. Jackson is composed in the pocket while Allen is frantic...yet Allen is generally viewed as the better prospect. Watch the clips in the video...Jackson hangs tough in the pocket and uses his A+++++ athletic ability to create passing opportunities. There are a bunch of non-elite passers making plays in the NFL because they can move: Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor to name a few. None of these guys is in Jackson's universe as an athlete, but he's in theirs as a passer. Shurmur has the reputation for working well with different types of QBs...I think there's a good chance he'd get the most out of Jackson. And if we're talking ceilings, Jackson's has to be the highest of the whole bunch because his elite trait is much greater than anyone else's.

Ill watch the vid. thanks