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NFT: MLB PlayersUnin rejects game speed up changes

superspynyg : 1/18/2018 6:14 pm
Now Manfred has option to implement pitch clock. Good game is too slow!

Per Rosenthal twitter
The NHL  
Knineteen : 1/18/2018 6:20 pm : link
made their game even faster. And everyone loved it.

The NFL and MLB have such a problem with time, yet there's no concerted effort to fix it.
And ironically, NHL always got shit for being too slow of a game even though their games were never really that long to begin with!
I haven’t looked into it too much yet  
BigBlueShock : 1/18/2018 6:27 pm : link
But why would the players union reject these ideas? What on earth is their motivation here? Other than to reject just because they can?
No one complains  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/18/2018 6:30 pm : link
about the last 1:30 of a basketball game.

Torture. Foul, timeout commecial foul timeout foul timeout
Everybody complains about the last 1:30 of basketball games  
PhiPsi125 : 1/18/2018 6:36 pm : link
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RE: Everybody complains about the last 1:30 of basketball games  
BigBlueShock : 1/18/2018 6:41 pm : link
In comment 13795862 PhiPsi125 said:
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Haha, exactly. Not sure what baseball trying to address length of games has to do with the NBA unless this guy want MLB to address the issues in the NBA as well?
AAA has had a pitch clock for a couple years  
Steve L : 1/18/2018 6:42 pm : link
And I go to probably 25 AAA games a year. It helps quite a bit. I love it.
The early 2000’s Yankees-Red Sox playoff games  
TurdFurguson : 1/18/2018 6:54 pm : link
Were brutal. 5+ hours routinely.
RE: Everybody complains about the last 1:30 of basketball games  
bw in dc : 1/18/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13795862 PhiPsi125 said:
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It’s total torture. And even worse now with the reviews.

Baseball is a great game that has been bastardized by specialization.

It’s obvious the clowns running the sport are now comfortable with it being just a regional sport. The distance between where the sport is now versus when it truly was our national pastime has never been wider...
I would love to speed up the game  
Steve in South Jersey : 1/18/2018 7:19 pm : link
but this needs to be negotiated with the union.
RE: I would love to speed up the game  
Sarcastic Sam : 1/18/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13795918 Steve in South Jersey said:
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but this needs to be negotiated with the union.


Exactly. The union should be the arbiter of what's best for the sport.

Viva la revolucion!
i find baseball games are too quick  
RasputinPrime : 1/18/2018 9:07 pm : link
I want them to let the managers get back on the field to argue calls. We are missing out on an average of five minutes of entertainment per game.

Kidding aside - don't dilute your product.
Part  
mitch300 : 1/19/2018 1:20 am : link
Of the problem is the players are use to stepping out of the batters box after every pitch since they started playing baseball as a kid. I remember helping coach my sons little league team, were talking 10-12 year olds this was 20 years ago. It's hard asking them to stop doing what they did there whole life.
RE: Part  
Matt M. : 1/19/2018 5:43 am : link
In comment 13796219 mitch300 said:
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Of the problem is the players are use to stepping out of the batters box after every pitch since they started playing baseball as a kid. I remember helping coach my sons little league team, were talking 10-12 year olds this was 20 years ago. It's hard asking them to stop doing what they did there whole life.
I dont recall steppinv kut with each pitch except against one psrticular pitcher who tfied to quick pitch. I have been coaching my skn for 8 years now and thjs is not a thing with young players.
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mitch300 : 1/19/2018 9:09 am : link
In comment 13796246 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13796219 mitch300 said:


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Of the problem is the players are use to stepping out of the batters box after every pitch since they started playing baseball as a kid. I remember helping coach my sons little league team, were talking 10-12 year olds this was 20 years ago. It's hard asking them to stop doing what they did there whole life.

I dont recall steppinv kut with each pitch except against one psrticular pitcher who tfied to quick pitch. I have been coaching my skn for 8 years now and thjs is not a thing with young players.

It was in our league. Is it a rule that you cannot step out? Either way it's good that they don't.
foolish on their part  
Greg from LI : 1/19/2018 9:16 am : link
The pitch clock has been in the minors for a couple of years now and it works just fine.
RE: The early 2000’s Yankees-Red Sox playoff games  
Harvest Blend : 1/19/2018 9:24 am : link
In comment 13795894 TurdFurguson said:
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Were brutal. 5+ hours routinely.


They were also some of the greatest baseball games I've ever seen.
Let's see, the game has survied for over 100 years  
Jeever : 1/19/2018 10:19 am : link
Leave it alone. They could limit the number of trips to the mound by the catcher. Sanchez started to piss me off with all his trips in between every pitch. But other that that, leave it alone. It's a great game as it is. No clock. As yogi said "It ain't over until it's over!!"
RE: RE: Everybody complains about the last 1:30 of basketball games  
MetsAreBack : 1/19/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13795913 bw in dc said:
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It’s obvious the clowns running the sport are now comfortable with it being just a regional sport. The distance between where the sport is now versus when it truly was our national pastime has never been wider...


Your rant is cute, but the actual subject matter of this discussion is that the commissioner and "clowns running the sport" want to speed up the game and implement rules to ensure it. The players union is rejecting the ideas.

Harvest - to each their own, i turned off Yanks/Sox playoff games because they were taking way too long. The average employed, family (kid and house responsibilities) doesnt have 5 hours per day to kill watching a game. Or 7 hours if you actually go to the game. And its not just those teams - Dodgers/Nationals in game 5 went 5 hours to play 9 innings too. Some of the Dodgers/Astros games this year were tortuously long.

And that's playoffs - I know there's a contingent in the regular season that loves to "relax" and watch a game... take their time, etc. -- that might work on a Saturday or sunday afternoon. But on a Tuesday night? Fuck that, i want a game that's over by 9:30 (2.5 hours) so i can get some sleep and get ready for real-life the next morning.
RE: Let's see, the game has survied for over 100 years  
mitch300 : 1/19/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13796554 Jeever said:
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Leave it alone. They could limit the number of trips to the mound by the catcher. Sanchez started to piss me off with all his trips in between every pitch. But other that that, leave it alone. It's a great game as it is. No clock. As yogi said "It ain't over until it's over!!"

The problem is 100 years ago or even 40 years ago games were a lot shorter . YES always shows Guidry's 18 strike out game. Watch and you see him get the ball from the pitcher set up and pitch.
If the shot clock goes the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/19/2018 1:10 pm : link
of other sports, we'll soon have replays trying to figure out if the ball left the pitcher's hand prior to the expiration! Or based on the rule, if the motion started.

That will be fun to dissect....
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