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Did McAdoo change in his press conferences in 2017?

an_idol_mind : 1/18/2018 6:45 pm
Out of curiosity, I've been skimming some old transcripts on Giants.com. From my perspective, McAdoo of 2017 seems like a parody of McAdoo of 2016 in the way he deals with the press.

Maybe it was just the fact that the team was winning more, but he seemed to have more substantive, with less antagonizing of the press and fewer repetitive responses. In 2017 he seemed less hesitant to be forthcoming about anything and couldn't get through a press conference without spouting something about the Duke or heavy-handed practices.

McAdoo's two years as head coach seem like something out of a sitcom - after some decent success in his first year, he comes in with slicked back hair and an attitude, then watches everything blow up in his face. It's a shame we never got a third act redemption.
Well he did have that douchebag hair style  
The_Boss : 1/18/2018 6:47 pm : link
Going for him in year 2....
His hair was the punchline of a team joke in 2016  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/18/2018 6:48 pm : link
He probably changed it for a reason.
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Micko : 1/18/2018 6:49 pm : link
You could argue the hair was the catalyst for his downfall. The whole thing was strange. As a grown man, how do you make that decision to go slick back? Was Bowser his secret idol?
I think adversity shows someone’s true character.  
BLUATHRT : 1/18/2018 6:50 pm : link
A leader of men generally responds similarly in good times and bad. It’s possible he just couldn’t handle the face to the front part of his role, especially with ultimate accountability to the horrific performance.
The whole tone of 2017  
EddieNYG : 1/18/2018 6:52 pm : link
Was set at the combine when McAdoo said that Eli had to play with "faster feet". He basically said that the OL is not bad if you compare it to the rest of the league, but the QB needs to play with faster feet.

It was all downhill from there...
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arcarsenal : 1/18/2018 6:53 pm : link
He probably got a little full of himself after winning 11 games as a rookie HC and started thinking he was a big shot.

Not so fast, Benny.
I don't know.  
Sarcastic Sam : 1/18/2018 6:54 pm : link
Gonna have to look at the tape....
the hair as a catalyst?  
Diver_Down : 1/18/2018 6:55 pm : link
More like the suit that was 2 sizes too large. Made him look totally unprepared for what most consider the pinnacle of their career. No one was expecting a fully tailored suit, but he could have bought off the rack at Men's Warehouse and looked better prepared.

It started with the suit and the hair just fanned the fire.
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Sean : 1/18/2018 7:09 pm : link
In comment 13795890 arcarsenal said:
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He probably got a little full of himself after winning 11 games as a rookie HC and started thinking he was a big shot.

Not so fast, Benny.


This.
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paesan98 : 1/18/2018 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13795890 arcarsenal said:
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He probably got a little full of himself after winning 11 games as a rookie HC and started thinking he was a big shot.

Not so fast, Benny.


I think you are probably correct
It's also possible that he let chris christie making fun of his hair  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/18/2018 7:12 pm : link
get in his head, which is really a bad look.
In 2017, he was LESS hesitant to be forthcoming? That isn’t how  
Ivan15 : 1/18/2018 7:16 pm : link
I remember it. He was a butthead in 2016 and a bigger butthead in 2017.
RE: In 2017, he was LESS hesitant to be forthcoming? That isn’t how  
mfsd : 1/18/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13795914 Ivan15 said:
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I remember it. He was a butthead in 2016 and a bigger butthead in 2017.


Haha, +1
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Micko : 1/18/2018 8:08 pm : link
I kinda liked him in 2016. I didn't mind the suit, struck me as a guy who was just a regular guy focused on football. Seemed like a good guy and the team did well. Then he comes back with the shades and slicked-backadoo. It was odd.
It’s been said before,  
10 to 13 : 1/18/2018 8:22 pm : link
But he went full Gordon Bombay in Mighty Ducks 2. Sniffed a little success and went all big headed. I agree with the poster above, the oversized suit and shitty haircut was endearing and struck me as someone who wasn’t paying attention to whatever nonsense was being said outsider.
it seemed  
japanhead : 1/18/2018 8:39 pm : link
kinda funny to me this year he seemed to try to channel tomlin's style when he was speaking to seem more cool and tough. presumably to match the hairdo. painful to watch and listen to.
Somewhere in Pennsyltucky in the month of March 17  
BlueHurricane : 1/18/2018 10:21 pm : link
He decided he wanted to be Pat Riley.
He stopped answering questions in 2017  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/19/2018 6:50 am : link
and just became snarky. And he did throw his QB under the bus subtly all the time while never doing that to any other players even if they were suspended.

I thought this guy was a real football coach after his first year, but the league caught up to him and he had no ability to adapt.
RE: He stopped answering questions in 2017  
an_idol_mind : 1/19/2018 7:02 am : link
In comment 13796256 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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and just became snarky. And he did throw his QB under the bus subtly all the time while never doing that to any other players even if they were suspended.

I thought this guy was a real football coach after his first year, but the league caught up to him and he had no ability to adapt.


The Eli stuff caught my eye. In 2016, the press asked him point blank several times about Eli's struggles, and he often defended him, saying the bad passes were a combination of things. After Eli's bad game in Philly, he was remarkably gentle with his criticism. He seemed to sour on Eli sometime early 2017.
2016 went to his head. Goes from big suit Ben, sloppy and ragged  
Victor in CT : 1/19/2018 8:16 am : link
to Slick Benny overnight.
Here's my take..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/19/2018 8:32 am : link
and it might not be true:

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He seemed to sour on Eli sometime early 2017


2016 was an outlier. the Defense was a strength which kept us in several games despite having a terrible offense. In Mac's mind, the team was destined to build on 2016 if they just got better production from the offensive side.

In his mind, the offense was broken, not because he used the same personnel set 90% of the time and ignored a blocking TE or FB, but because of the QB play. His stance is that the system works, but the QB was the issue.

That's when he soured on Eli and started making the snide comments. It began in the 2016 offseason with Reese giving the back 9 comment and Mac saying they needed to start to look at the transition. It continued into 2017, and when the team got off to a horrendous start and the season was lost, Mac realized his only way to save his job was to lay the blame at the QB's feet.

That's my view, but it is just what I believe based on the way things have unfolded.
RE: Here's my take..  
Victor in CT : 1/19/2018 8:34 am : link
In comment 13796318 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and it might not be true:



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He seemed to sour on Eli sometime early 2017



2016 was an outlier. the Defense was a strength which kept us in several games despite having a terrible offense. In Mac's mind, the team was destined to build on 2016 if they just got better production from the offensive side.

In his mind, the offense was broken, not because he used the same personnel set 90% of the time and ignored a blocking TE or FB, but because of the QB play. His stance is that the system works, but the QB was the issue.

That's when he soured on Eli and started making the snide comments. It began in the 2016 offseason with Reese giving the back 9 comment and Mac saying they needed to start to look at the transition. It continued into 2017, and when the team got off to a horrendous start and the season was lost, Mac realized his only way to save his job was to lay the blame at the QB's feet.

That's my view, but it is just what I believe based on the way things have unfolded.


very plausible Fats. And I agree, 2016 was definitely an outlier in a 6 year decline.
Agree with Fatman 100%....  
Britt in VA : 1/19/2018 8:36 am : link
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The offense was terrible in 2016 too  
averagejoe : 1/19/2018 8:57 am : link
I don't think he changed at all. The guy was overwhelmed and under qualified for the job. Very poor choice. He really believed controlling the clock and not scoring points was the way to win football games. A drooling moron.
It started with the hair...  
GiantTuff1 : 1/19/2018 2:34 pm : link
It was almost as if someone was like "Hey, you're the coach of the New York Giants, you can't be looking disheveled, and have floppy hair. You need to slick that thing back. Look more professional."

I think the appearance stuff got in his head and he was listening to too many people and probably reading too many books on how to be a tough guy coach. The second he listened to that stuff, he forfeited his own integrity. Before, even if he looked goofy to some people (he did not to me), he was himself, and that was endearing.

Then you have a grown man, who maybe from outside pressure, the owners or whoever, want to improve his optics, changes his hair style at 40 years of age. How are his grown men players supposed to respond to that?

I think he was so unsure of himself, that others began to be unsure of him and the downward spiral began. Strange indeed.
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