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Josh Allen - Giant type Quarterback 1st Rounder

Elite Mobster #32 : 1/18/2018 8:54 pm
Would not be surprised to see Josh Allen chosen 1st
He is totally smooth and efficient and his mechanics are excellent. Powerful arm and hits receivers in stride.
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That's correct Fatman - You Drama Queen !  
Elite Mobster #32 : 1/19/2018 11:06 pm : link
Discuss the topic!
Most new coaches want their own QB. The new coach is in a coach is in a unique position. He gets to bring in a player he envisions as the future. They will continue to force feed him Eli for a season, but eventually he will have his QB.



RE: That's correct Fatman - You Drama Queen !  
Mike from SI : 1/19/2018 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13797497 Elite Mobster #32 said:
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Discuss the topic!
Most new coaches want their own QB. The new coach is in a coach is in a unique position. He gets to bring in a player he envisions as the future. They will continue to force feed him Eli for a season, but eventually he will have his QB.




How old are you?
RE: RE: I like Allen  
Peppers : 1/19/2018 11:17 pm : link
In comment 13796790 Stan in LA said:
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Very humble kid with a cannon attached to his shoulder (literally a cannon).




Lol
Whatever Mike from SI -  
Elite Mobster #32 : 1/19/2018 11:35 pm : link
Typo

Watching the Knicks - Manana
RE: Again,  
Hades07 : 1/20/2018 12:39 am : link
In comment 13796196 Modus Operandi said:
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I'm not trying to bust your balls.

I'm asking because you stated that you believe he can be coached out of his issues.

I'm asking because I can't think of a single sub-60% college passer who went on to become successful starter.
Old, but decent article on college QBs with low completion %.
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RE: RE: Again,  
Peppers : 1/20/2018 1:08 am : link
In comment 13797542 Hades07 said:
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In comment 13796196 Modus Operandi said:


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I'm not trying to bust your balls.

I'm asking because you stated that you believe he can be coached out of his issues.

I'm asking because I can't think of a single sub-60% college passer who went on to become successful starter.

Old, but decent article on college QBs with low completion %. Link - ( New Window )


Dan Marino and Bret Favre.

Their completion percentages in college will blow you away.
RE: RE: Again,  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 1/20/2018 1:18 am : link
In comment 13797542 Hades07 said:
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In comment 13796196 Modus Operandi said:


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I'm not trying to bust your balls.

I'm asking because you stated that you believe he can be coached out of his issues.

I'm asking because I can't think of a single sub-60% college passer who went on to become successful starter.

Old, but decent article on college QBs with low completion %. Link - ( New Window )


His evaluation was spot-on

High on:
Brian Brohm
Chad Henne

Down on:
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
RE: That's correct Fatman - You Drama Queen !  
Modus Operandi : 1/20/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13797497 Elite Mobster #32 said:
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Discuss the topic!
Most new coaches want their own QB. The new coach is in a coach is in a unique position. He gets to bring in a player he envisions as the future. They will continue to force feed him Eli for a season, but eventually he will have his QB.




I don't know if EliteMob's posts have made me dyslexic, but this is what my brain first processed:

The new coach is in a new couch and is in a unique cushion.
RE: RE: Did some digging  
chopperhatch : 1/20/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13796223 montanagiant said:
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and found a few NFL QBs whom, similarly to Allen, had more than 1 college season in which they had a sub-60% completion.

- Josh McCown
- Jay Cutler
- Colin Kaepernick
- Trevor Siemian
- Blaine Gabbert
- Brock Oswieler
- Cam Newton (technically, but he only got into 6 games over two seasons in Florida. Well over 60% in his final year)
- Tyrod Taylor

Wouldn't call this conclusive evidence to the contrary of your point, but it doesn't look good.

I think considering Allen at #2 is crazy talk.



The only one on that list that has the same measurables as Allen is Cam Newton. Size, athletic ability, arm, legs, all match up. once the combines are over he will shoot up


Comparing Allen's athleticsm to Cam's os a stretch....to say the least.
RE: RE: RE: Did some digging  
montanagiant : 1/20/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13797970 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13796223 montanagiant said:


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In comment 13796220 Modus Operandi said:


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and found a few NFL QBs whom, similarly to Allen, had more than 1 college season in which they had a sub-60% completion.

- Josh McCown
- Jay Cutler
- Colin Kaepernick
- Trevor Siemian
- Blaine Gabbert
- Brock Oswieler
- Cam Newton (technically, but he only got into 6 games over two seasons in Florida. Well over 60% in his final year)
- Tyrod Taylor

Wouldn't call this conclusive evidence to the contrary of your point, but it doesn't look good.

I think considering Allen at #2 is crazy talk.



The only one on that list that has the same measurables as Allen is Cam Newton. Size, athletic ability, arm, legs, all match up. once the combines are over he will shoot up



Comparing Allen's athleticsm to Cam's os a stretch....to say the least.

Allen runs a 4.61 40
Cam runs a 4.59
He's considered more Athletic than Wentz, so explain how saying he is athletically comparable to Cam is a Stretch
RE: RE: RE: Again,  
Hades07 : 1/20/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13797570 You'reMyBoyBlue!! said:
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In comment 13797542 Hades07 said:


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In comment 13796196 Modus Operandi said:


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I'm not trying to bust your balls.

I'm asking because you stated that you believe he can be coached out of his issues.

I'm asking because I can't think of a single sub-60% college passer who went on to become successful starter.

Old, but decent article on college QBs with low completion %. Link - ( New Window )



His evaluation was spot-on

High on:
Brian Brohm
Chad Henne

Down on:
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
lol, I know. He recycles the same article every year with the new class, his record doesn't get better
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