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If no QB at #2, then Bradley Chubb...

M.S. : 1/19/2018 8:43 am
...no doubt the talent on this team is with the D-line, but we've got a huge problem with this unit (which we don't have to worry about with the O-Line):

A ton of money tied up in two defensive ends who are under-performing their fat juicy contracts.

What to do in the Draft?

Maybe the answer is: Bradley Chubb!

His motor is always on (the opposite of JPP) and he's young and healthy while O.V. is aging and breaking down right before our very eyes. And he will come with a manageable 4- or 5-year cost-contained contract, unlike our current DE starters.

In other words, maybe a year from now Bradley Chubb provides the Giants with the flexibility needed to deal with either JPP or OV if they continue on their current downward trajectory.

My mantra is we must go QB at #2. But if we don't, I think Bradley Chubb would look real good in Blue... for several reasons.
We should make it through FA  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/19/2018 8:46 am : link
first before we determine what we need.
I strongly doubt  
JonC : 1/19/2018 8:46 am : link
he'll be the second best player in this draft.
Avery Moss  
BigBlueHens : 1/19/2018 9:07 am : link
is a kid who flashed at times but didn't get more playing time. I was excited to see what he could do.

Adding depth on the defensive line is a important part of this offseason. Rotating effective lineman will help the pass rush.
If  
AcidTest : 1/19/2018 9:30 am : link
the Giants trade down and don't draft a QB or Barkley, then I think they may take Connor Williams.
Is Chubb the real deal?  
George from PA : 1/19/2018 9:39 am : link
If he is a top monster DE.....then I totally agree
Very good player  
ryanmkeane : 1/19/2018 9:45 am : link
but only if we trade down to the 5-9 spot or so.
The Giants miss a guy like Robert Ayers  
bLiTz 2k : 1/19/2018 9:47 am : link
to spell JPP and OV. With Okwara hurt the Giants continue to hurt themselves by keeping their starting ends on the field for far too many snaps.

I really believe they will be more effective late in games and the season if they get a quality rotation going again (See the Eagles approach).
RE: Is Chubb the real deal?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/19/2018 9:50 am : link
In comment 13796439 George from PA said:
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If he is a top monster DE.....then I totally agree


Best DE in a class of DE's that doesn't appear to have an obviously special player at the top, IMO.
For what it is worth.  
TMS : 1/19/2018 10:09 am : link
Boylhart ( huddle) rates Harrison Phillips - Stanford ahead of him. Both are top of the line in this draft though.
RE: RE: Is Chubb the real deal?  
Breeze_94 : 1/19/2018 10:10 am : link
In comment 13796475 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13796439 George from PA said:


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If he is a top monster DE.....then I totally agree



Best DE in a class of DE's that doesn't appear to have an obviously special player at the top, IMO.


Yea that’s the thing with Chubb. He has great film but I think he is more Derek Barnett than he is Myles Garrett. I don’t know if he will test off the charts but he is going to be a really good player regardless, just not sure he is worth passing up a franchise QB or Barkley.

Also  
Breeze_94 : 1/19/2018 10:12 am : link
With an offensive guy Shurmur being likely to be the next coach compounded with the way the Giants have struggled on Offense, I wonder if it is inevitable they go that direction with this pick
RE: RE: RE: Is Chubb the real deal?  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/19/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 13796525 Breeze_94 said:
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In comment 13796475 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 13796439 George from PA said:


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If he is a top monster DE.....then I totally agree



Best DE in a class of DE's that doesn't appear to have an obviously special player at the top, IMO.



Yea that’s the thing with Chubb. He has great film but I think he is more Derek Barnett than he is Myles Garrett. I don’t know if he will test off the charts but he is going to be a really good player regardless, just not sure he is worth passing up a franchise QB or Barkley.


Chubb doesn't display enough bend to be a premier sack artist...more a solid 2 way player like mentioned in Barnett. Definitely wouldn't consider Chubb #2 overall worthy.
There isn't a position player good enough in this draft class...  
Torrag : 1/19/2018 10:14 am : link
...to push us off selecting a QB...if we stay at #2. I should preface this by saying I'm philosophically against drafting a RB this high. The average career longevity at the position just doesn't warrant it imo. This obviously eliminates Barkley from contention at #2 for me.
If the Giants don't love Darnold Rosen or Allen at 2  
Jay on the Island : 1/19/2018 10:16 am : link
I hope they trade down a few spots and pick up another 2019 1st round pick. Ideally they would get a 2nd this year as well and move down a few spots and then take either Allen or Mayfield.
RE: There isn't a position player good enough in this draft class...  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/19/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13796536 Torrag said:
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...to push us off selecting a QB...if we stay at #2. I should preface this by saying I'm philosophically against drafting a RB this high. The average career longevity at the position just doesn't warrant it imo. This obviously eliminates Barkley from contention at #2 for me.


I cant justify paying top-5 overall RB money to a rookie right away when the $$ will be stretched thin going forward with Collins and OBJ's contracts.
No problem with Giants trading down  
TMS : 1/19/2018 1:08 pm : link
for more picks if they elect not to take any of theses QBs and somebody else wants to deal. DG and hopefully Shurmur seem to have good eyes for talent.
Chubb not worth  
TMS : 1/20/2018 4:43 pm : link
the#2 pick in the draft by a long shot. Trade back or take Barkley he might be a Game changer. MO
Any decent  
fkap : 1/20/2018 5:17 pm : link
DE prospect’s in 2nd or lower rounds?

Would be nice to have someone to push JPP or OV next year.
Think if is not a QB at #2 it will be  
TMS : 1/20/2018 9:10 pm : link
Barkely and hope it is myself.
Chubb wouldn't be a bad pick.  
FStubbs : 1/21/2018 7:49 am : link
Despite the money we're spending at the position the Giants are clearly hilariously weak at defensive end.
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