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FP Update: Giants waiting on Shurmur, Gettleman and Eli meet

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2018 8:49 am
And a few other tidbits... mostly all posted previously in Forum.
Giants Still Waiting on Pat Shurmur; Dave Gettleman Meets with Eli Manning - ( New Window )
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/19/2018 8:55 am : link
Meeting must've went well, or Eli would've asked for the decisions to be announced to the press :)
anyone think that Gettleman broached the subject of a paycut?  
Andy in Boston : 1/19/2018 9:25 am : link
I'm all for having Eli back as think he can still play.
He's not a top tier QB anymore and a $22 million is just too much. If he takes a cut, he can help them get players in Free Agency.
Neither Peyton nor Eli have ever touched their contract.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/19/2018 9:36 am : link
I believe they have/had the same representation.
Eli has been a franchise QB.  
Andy in Boston : 1/19/2018 9:53 am : link
but the way I look at it....he hasn't played like a $20 million QB in years. Obviously not all his fault as they have wasted some years by not giving him an adequate oline. But he could do his part and take a cut to help the team...if he wants to be there. He shouldn't be untouchable with regard to that.
For God's sake....  
HoustonGiant : 1/19/2018 9:53 am : link
Does anyone proofread anymore???
RE: Eli has been a franchise QB.  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 13796482 Andy in Boston said:
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but the way I look at it....he hasn't played like a $20 million QB in years. Obviously not all his fault as they have wasted some years by not giving him an adequate oline. But he could do his part and take a cut to help the team...if he wants to be there. He shouldn't be untouchable with regard to that.

Mannings don't take pay cuts.
in mcadoos  
japanhead : 1/19/2018 10:12 am : link
mickey mouse offense and with the absolute garbage reese has surrounded him with (outside of beckham and shep) how can anyone reasonably conclude that eli isn't a "top tier" QB anymore? there's been a talent hole on the OL since about 2012 and they haven't had a viable running back since bradshaw. eli put up 35 TDs just 2 seasons ago. he can't do it all himself.
RE: RE: Eli has been a franchise QB.  
bLiTz 2k : 1/19/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 13796527 Mr. Bungle said:
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but the way I look at it....he hasn't played like a $20 million QB in years. Obviously not all his fault as they have wasted some years by not giving him an adequate oline. But he could do his part and take a cut to help the team...if he wants to be there. He shouldn't be untouchable with regard to that.


Mannings don't take pay cuts.


What QBs do take paycuts?
If management committed to Eli, and he was willing to  
3putt : 1/19/2018 10:17 am : link
restructure, how could a re-tooling of his contract be mutually beneficial?

Any idea?
RE: For God's sake....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2018 10:22 am : link
In comment 13796483 HoustonGiant said:
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Does anyone proofread anymore???


Yes. Did I miss something?
22 mill  
Rory : 1/19/2018 12:28 pm : link
is pretty good compared to some of the other QB's in the league who happen to have 0 rings or MVP's to their name.



Hasn't Brady consitantly  
Bubba : 1/19/2018 1:39 pm : link
restructured has contact to help obtain/retain certain players?
RE: Hasn't Brady consitantly  
gmen9892 : 1/19/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13797000 Bubba said:
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restructured has contact to help obtain/retain certain players?


Tom Brady is making $22 million dollars this year. He also has the luxury of knowing his team is consistently 1-2 players away from making it back to the Super bowl every year. It makes sense for him not to ask for $25+ mill, between his endorsements, playoff bonuses, and Gisellle's money.

If Gettlemen doesnt put a solid team around Eli soon, these last 2 years might be the last payouts Eli ever sees. I dont blame him for not wanting to take a cut (they will not restructure as he only has 1 more year left after this year on his deal).

Furthermore, the likes of Bortles, Tyrod Taylor, and Tannehill are all making 18-20 million. That is simply the going rate for a starting QB, and Eli is working his way toward the bottom of that rate.
Can we all take a pay cut first?  
Bill L : 1/19/2018 6:40 pm : link
I mean we’re so free and easy about it.
RE: Hasn't Brady consitantly  
ImThatGuy : 1/19/2018 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13797000 Bubba said:
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restructured has contact to help obtain/retain certain players?


Also Brady has an ownership to a training/rehab facility that operates out of Foxboro. I don't know how much Kraft is charging Brady to use that space but I can guarantee you nobody else in the world can get those same lease terms. So yea Brady is doing alright and profiting from the team in other ways too
RE: RE: Hasn't Brady consitantly  
smshmth8690 : 1/19/2018 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13797185 gmen9892 said:
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restructured has contact to help obtain/retain certain players?



Tom Brady is making $22 million dollars this year. He also has the luxury of knowing his team is consistently 1-2 players away from making it back to the Super bowl every year. It makes sense for him not to ask for $25+ mill, between his endorsements, playoff bonuses, and Gisellle's money.

If Gettlemen doesnt put a solid team around Eli soon, these last 2 years might be the last payouts Eli ever sees. I dont blame him for not wanting to take a cut (they will not restructure as he only has 1 more year left after this year on his deal).

Furthermore, the likes of Bortles, Tyrod Taylor, and Tannehill are all making 18-20 million. That is simply the going rate for a starting QB, and Eli is working his way toward the bottom of that rate.


Tom Brady, does that 22 million include his take from his TB12 company?
I love Eli  
Jerz44 : 1/20/2018 6:32 am : link
but he's made almost 200 million playing football.

I do wish he'd be willing to accept a little less to help the team be better through other signings.
RE: I love Eli  
Steve in South Jersey : 1/20/2018 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13797590 Jerz44 said:
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but he's made almost 200 million playing football.

I do wish he'd be willing to accept a little less to help the team be better through other signings.


we all should take pay cuts so our companies do better.
RE: RE: I love Eli  
PhiPsi125 : 1/20/2018 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13797918 Steve in South Jersey said:
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but he's made almost 200 million playing football.

I do wish he'd be willing to accept a little less to help the team be better through other signings.



we all should take pay cuts so our companies do better.


Do normal companies have salary caps?
RE: RE: RE: I love Eli  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/20/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13797972 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13797590 Jerz44 said:


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but he's made almost 200 million playing football.

I do wish he'd be willing to accept a little less to help the team be better through other signings.



we all should take pay cuts so our companies do better.



Do normal companies have salary caps?
Is it Eli's fault that that the Giants do ?
RE: RE: RE: I love Eli  
Rory : 1/21/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13797972 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13797590 Jerz44 said:


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but he's made almost 200 million playing football.

I do wish he'd be willing to accept a little less to help the team be better through other signings.



we all should take pay cuts so our companies do better.



Do normal companies have salary caps?


No, they have short term financial goals where if not met means cutting overhead
RE: Can we all take a pay cut first?  
Jay in Toronto : 1/21/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 13797352 Bill L said:
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I mean we’re so free and easy about it.


I'd gladly take a huge cut from Eli's salary and go to 15 mil.

Where do I sign??

And of course, I'd be available for endorsements, though I'd have to work on a goofy grin ;)

Really don’t understand the paycut  
UConn4523 : 1/21/2018 11:30 am : link
the league doesn’t work that way for QBs and he’s entitled to what’s in his contract.
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