NFT: Is MSU getting off with this Nasser stuff when PSU

Did one of their coaches rape kids too?

who essentially molested every gymnast in apparently the last 20 years. He is also the physician for MSU, where the olympic team practices, and many female MSU athletes were molested by him as well. Many of these athletes allegedly reported the suspected abuses to be ignored by their coachs and/or the MSU administration.

Essentially this jerk/lunatic told his victims that vaginal manipulation increased pelvic movement or some insanity.

In comment 13796694 cokeduplt said:

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Did one of their coaches rape kids too?

Nasser was one of the Drs associated with the athletics department there and there were *some* reports of sexual abuse by some of the female gymnasts that the AD essentially ignored.

That said, most of Nasser's victims were part of the USAG apparatus. It seems he systematically abused girls at the local Michigan gym he worked with and at the Karolyi ranch in Texas where the US national team practices.

And yes, USAG is getting off easy so far. That's an organization that should be given the death penalty.

Good question.

... watching some of the victims' statements. This case absolutely is on par with the Sandusky case and Michigan State University and USA Gymnastics should be viewed as harshly as Penn State.

There needs to be a detailed investigation(s) into what transpired and how this was allowed to continue for 20 years. Individuals that were complicit need to be held legally accountable.

In comment 13796811 Boy Cord said:

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... watching some of the victims' statements. This case absolutely is on par with the Sandusky case and Michigan State University and USA Gymnastics should be viewed as harshly as Penn State. There needs to be a detailed investigation(s) into what transpired and how this was allowed to continue for 20 years. Individuals that were complicit need to be held legally accountable.

Not trying to excuse it, but I thought the abuse *at* MSU was mostly within the last 5 years?

USAG on the other hand has been covering it up for over a decade and needs to burn.

In comment 13796817 giants#1 said:

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Not trying to excuse it, but I thought the abuse *at* MSU was mostly within the last 5 years?

I don't know the full list of accusations to judge whether they're mostly recent, but there were multiple women who notified school officials of abuse back in the late 90's.
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In comment 13796853 Mad Mike said:

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In comment 13796817 giants#1 said: Quote: Not trying to excuse it, but I thought the abuse *at* MSU was mostly within the last 5 years? I don't know the full list of accusations to judge whether they're mostly recent, but there were multiple women who notified school officials of abuse back in the late 90's. link - ( New Window )

Thanks, missed those. I only read about the ones in 2014/15 and the lack of communication between MSU/USAG regarding investigations into Nassar.

How did none of those athletic girls not bite off his johnson? This stuff boils my blood, HORRIFIC! - and the co-conspirators who did nothing when it was reported to them --- IN MY VIEW --- are WORSE than the sick scumbag perp!

LOCK EM ALL UP.

that the MSU administrators who turned a blind eye were in on it. Like getting pics or videos from Nasser or something like that. I don't know how else to explain why someone would ignore such a thing.

In comment 13796706 bhill410 said:

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who essentially molested every gymnast in apparently the last 20 years. He is also the physician for MSU, where the olympic team practices, and many female MSU athletes were molested by him as well. Many of these athletes allegedly reported the suspected abuses to be ignored by their coachs and/or the MSU administration. Essentially this jerk/lunatic told his victims that vaginal manipulation increased pelvic movement or some insanity.

O wow I didn’t even know this. Yea I would say the deserve as much punishment as penn state

coaches would send an athlete off to see the doctor. You'd think they'd follow up - how did it go? Why were you there so long? I'd imagine at the least that the girls gave off some negative vibes about this dude that the coaches should have picked up on.

but not for long.

Several gymnasts filed complaints and there were investigations, including one where the local police decided not to pursue charges.

I think many of the people involved are evil, and corrupt as hell, and should be behind bars.

I think I read that MSU has asked for a 3rd party to conduct an investigation and see if there was any wrongdoing on their part.

Many of these gymnasts believe there was and I believe them.

and then just chip away at the penalties until there is nothing left like they did with PSU. There are no consequences for anything anymore...

Why have we not heard a peep from the NCAA? The minimal outrage from the sports world (this has hit mainstream like cnn/foxnews but not really espn) is concerning to say the least. I mean imagine this is your daughter?

Aly Raisman just delivered a blowtorch of a victim statement...
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is getting the same amount of attention that Sandusky did, maybe it is, and it should be. or more.

it spans MSU, the USA Gymnastics, local PD's and more.

Such an infuriating and tragic story.

over 150 girls have come forward and to quote an article:

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"...represents “nearly as many victims as the Jerry Sandusky, Bill Cosby, and Harvey Weinstein scandals combined.” Many of the victims were minors, sometimes abused with their parents in the room while they were medically examined. There is evidence that Michigan State University and USA Gymnastics, the two elite institutions associated with Nassar, were slow to act on reports that he was abusing girls and young women....

and USA Gymnastics turned a blind eye to complaints of victims and enabled this fucking monster. Shame on them.

Some of these victim statements are gut-wrenching. Rotting in hell would be getting off lightly.

In comment 13797103 Chris in Philly said:

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Aly Raisman just delivered a blowtorch of a victim statement... Link - ( New Window )

That was something else. Good for her.

short the victim impact statements I loved her response. Basically a big FU, you're going to sit through everyone one of them.

and it's heartbreaking.

Rachel Denhollander (an MSU gymnast) gave a really good statement as well.

by MSU seems deplorable and reminds me of the PSU case. I guess the big difference is that this doesn't relate to the football program while at PSU it was directly related. MSU athletic teams (unless there's some sort of gymnastics) likely won't face sanctions, but the bad actors as MSU should be subject to termination, civil and maybe criminal liability depending on what they knew and covered up.

Which is good.

I think this story is just starting to get traction. Have a feeling it will get bigger as these testimonies/statements continue.

It's really quite incredible that this guy did this shit for as long as he did, completely unchecked.

The Lansing State Journal, has written some blistering criticisms of how the administration handled this. Apparently MSU had an investigation of how the situation was handled, but there was no written report so “nothing to release.” The paper has been very critical.

I think one difference between this and PSU is in the PSU case there was big money and a revered staff in place making motives of the administration a question. At MSU women’s gymnastics is not exactly front page, big money stuff. So to the extent they turned a blind eye, the motives were not related to money or protection of a program. But more ignorance, stupidity, and potentially believing someone highly respected over the girls in question. This stuff is notoriously hard as there are only 2 people in the room. But IMO the second there is a complaint (and especially more than 1) you err on the side of caution in protecting the athletes.

An example from a Detroit paper. Appropriately blistering.
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