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Interesting Baker Mayfield Tidbit

geelabee : 1/19/2018 2:42 pm
MAYFIELD originally signed with Texas Tech and was beaten out by Davis Webb in 2013. Doing research on Mayfield...so far my favorite QB in this years draft...could it be the GMEN already have their QB of the future already on their roster DAVIS????

The weird history of Baker Mayfield and Texas Tech - ( New Window )
And Webb was beaten out by Mahomes.  
SHO'NUFF : 1/19/2018 2:47 pm : link
And then reneged on a commitment to Colorado.
All very interesting as the QB world turns stuff  
Emil : 1/19/2018 2:48 pm : link
You may want to ready my very length (sorry) post.
this ...  
LC_21 : 1/19/2018 2:49 pm : link
... funny - everyone thinks shurmur = QB early pick ..

I think the exact opposite. If hes truly the QB whispered that's being advertised isn't it more likely we roll w Eli and possibly continue to develop Webb ...

Increasing our trade down probability

I'm not advocating that - just think it becomes more of a reality
the germans are already here...  
BronxBombers : 1/19/2018 2:56 pm : link
oh no.
RE: this ...  
ajr2456 : 1/19/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13797104 LC_21 said:
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... funny - everyone thinks shurmur = QB early pick ..

I think the exact opposite. If hes truly the QB whispered that's being advertised isn't it more likely we roll w Eli and possibly continue to develop Webb ...

Increasing our trade down probability

I'm not advocating that - just think it becomes more of a reality


What QB whispering is he going to do with a 37 year old with declining skills?
RE: And Webb was beaten out by Mahomes.  
HoustonGiant : 1/19/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13797101 SHO'NUFF said:
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And then reneged on a commitment to Colorado.


Webb was injured and left before they could really fight for the job.
QB development is not often linear  
JonC : 1/19/2018 3:19 pm : link
There's virtually no tangible correlation here.
Just stop  
lax counsel : 1/19/2018 3:20 pm : link
No we're going back to a qb race where mayfield was what, a freshmen? Then was promptly beat out by Mahomes. Mayfield got better as he went through college. By all accounts, Webb made the exact same mistakes and had the same flaws day one as last day.

Also, what if all 3 of them in actuality aren't any good?
RE: this ...  
madgiantscow009 : 1/19/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13797104 LC_21 said:
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... funny - everyone thinks shurmur = QB early pick ..

I think the exact opposite. If hes truly the QB whispered that's being advertised isn't it more likely we roll w Eli and possibly continue to develop Webb ...

Increasing our trade down probability

I'm not advocating that - just think it becomes more of a reality


Vikings aren't good at running the ball, but run it the most in the league. I think that is a good argument to draft a RB or OL.

He's good with QBs so that is a good argument to draft a QB.

I think it's 50/50.

My inside sources say the Giants draft a punter #2 overall. We'll see.
"I told you Webb was 1st round material!!! - Jerry Reese  
Victor in CT : 1/19/2018 3:26 pm : link
UGH! Please make it stop............
RE: RE: this ...  
Jay on the Island : 1/19/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13797137 madgiantscow009 said:
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My inside sources say the Giants draft a punter #2 overall. We'll see.

Belichick would never take a punter #2 overall. I'll ask Slade but I heard from Gettleman's wife's cat that the Giants were going to take a QB with the 2nd overall pick unless they don't.
RE: RE: And Webb was beaten out by Mahomes.  
ThatLimerickGuy : 1/19/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13797127 HoustonGiant said:
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In comment 13797101 SHO'NUFF said:


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And then reneged on a commitment to Colorado.



Webb was injured and left before they could really fight for the job.


Please don't let facts get in the way of narrative.
If I am not mistaken  
est1986 : 1/19/2018 3:53 pm : link
Mayfield got hurt then Webb beat him out... Webb got him then Mahomes beat him out...
RE: RE: And Webb was beaten out by Mahomes.  
Beer Man : 1/19/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13797127 HoustonGiant said:
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In comment 13797101 SHO'NUFF said:


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And then reneged on a commitment to Colorado.



Webb was injured and left before they could really fight for the job.
True, but the general feeling at the time that Mahomes had done such a good job filling in, that he became his job to lose
My heart says take Mayfield, . . . .  
TC : 1/19/2018 7:02 pm : link
but my brain says take somebody else. Baker is going to be boom or bust in the NFL.

Gotta be Rosen, gotta be Darnold, gotta be gotta be.

Maybe. Or maybe, trade down pick up Mayfield if he's still there, or look at some of the other QB's no one talks much about like Mason Rudolph who stands a chance of being a very good NFL QB after a trade down and turn some of those picks into OL.

Don't want to see a RB at #2, the Giants already have 1 1/2 good RB's, want to see a closer. And I've got somebody in mind who will either go late, or possibly even be a UDFA.
All this mind-numbing whining about QBs  
rich in DC : 1/19/2018 8:01 pm : link
Doesn't matter one bit.

Look at who won the last 10 Super Bowls. Anyone see a pattern? In those 10 games, only ONE QB was a top 5 pick for their team- Eli Manning. Big Ben was a 7th pick. Peyton was a top pick- but with the Colts and won with the Broncos after being released by the Colts- and was bailed out by the great Denver D.

In short, for all the whining and moaning about how this MUST be a QB- forget it. Forcing the pick with a QB is how teams end up being 8-8 forever. Pick the top impact player, regardless of position.

RE: All this mind-numbing whining about QBs  
Jim in Tampa : 1/19/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13797398 rich in DC said:
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Doesn't matter one bit.

Look at who won the last 10 Super Bowls. Anyone see a pattern? In those 10 games, only ONE QB was a top 5 pick for their team- Eli Manning. Big Ben was a 7th pick. Peyton was a top pick- but with the Colts and won with the Broncos after being released by the Colts- and was bailed out by the great Denver D.

In short, for all the whining and moaning about how this MUST be a QB- forget it. Forcing the pick with a QB is how teams end up being 8-8 forever. Pick the top impact player, regardless of position.


Look at the last 50 Super Bowls. How many of them were won by 37 yr old QBs or clipboard holders?

Giants need a franchise QB. There will be at least one of them (Rosen or Darnold) there for the taking when they're on the clock.

And quite frankly, I'm tired about all the mind-numbing whining from people who think taking a talented QB when you desperately need one as "forcing" a pick.
RE: All this mind-numbing whining about QBs  
Jay on the Island : 1/20/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13797398 rich in DC said:
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In short, for all the whining and moaning about how this MUST be a QB- forget it. Forcing the pick with a QB is how teams end up being 8-8 forever. Pick the top impact player, regardless of position.

No taking a talented RB in a deep RB draft class over a QB is how you go 6-10 to 7-9 every year. They will have to trade a fortune like the Rams did to move up to get their next QB. If they miss on a QB they will likely be 4-12 again soon and in position to correct the mistake. What's the difference between 4-12 and 6-10? Draft position.
RE: All this mind-numbing whining about QBs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/20/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13797398 rich in DC said:
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Doesn't matter one bit.

Look at who won the last 10 Super Bowls. Anyone see a pattern? In those 10 games, only ONE QB was a top 5 pick for their team- Eli Manning. Big Ben was a 7th pick. Peyton was a top pick- but with the Colts and won with the Broncos after being released by the Colts- and was bailed out by the great Denver D.

In short, for all the whining and moaning about how this MUST be a QB- forget it. Forcing the pick with a QB is how teams end up being 8-8 forever. Pick the top impact player, regardless of position.


I don't think anyone here has said to force the pick, that it has to be a QB.

The real argument here seems to be split opinion on the available QBs. If you buy them, then obviously it should be a QB. Because what moron would pass on a potential franchise QB?
For the record, Webb was not beat out by Mahomes.  
Section331 : 1/20/2018 11:30 am : link
He was injured. I’m not arguing that the Giants should forego drafting a QB because of Webb, but let’s get the facts straight.

And he reneged on a commitment to Colorado? Give me a fucking break.
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