Tom Quinn outta here....

but he is not Tom Quinn so yay!

not DG's.

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When they agreed to terms or as part of the interview coordinators had to have been covered.

anybody care to guess before clicking?

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst

.... been waiting 10 years for "Tom Quinn Appreciation Thread"

It still amazes me that he lasted so long.

was an assistant special teams coach here under Coughlin.

is here...
http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/thomas-mcgaughey-jr/6fb35dbe-f4a9-4c4d-8b27-e3042fde0a8c - ( New Window )

First hiring Shurmur as HC and then replacing Quinn with a guy that coached one of the better ST's in football.

giving Quinn a pass, and I remember who some of you are. Some of my favorite excuses...

"We had a bad bottom roster and thats where ST guys come from"
"We don't draft well in late rounds"
"His units were up and down over the years"
"Yeah but remember how big STs played during the NFC Champ game in SF"
"How can you blame Quinn because his guys can't (fill in the blank)"
"NFL rules dont allow for enough practice time to focus on Special Teams"

anything I missed?

this long.

hope so.

Eric threatened to blow a gasket if Quinn returned this year

Hey Boss -- looks like you may have to dial back your worst fears

In comment 13797742 Jimmy Googs said:

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giving Quinn a pass, and I remember who some of you are. Some of my favorite excuses... "We had a bad bottom roster and thats where ST guys come from" "We don't draft well in late rounds" "His units were up and down over the years" "Yeah but remember how big STs played during the NFC Champ game in SF" "How can you blame Quinn because his guys can't (fill in the blank)" "NFL rules dont allow for enough practice time to focus on Special Teams" anything I missed?

You forgot "He has no talent to work with." The Giants give pro bowl ST player Dwayne Harris 17 million and he comes to the Giants and his stats instantly decrease. We have the best LS in terms of making plays down the field. We have had several good ST players on this team during Quinn's tenure yet ST's were never a strength. The only players that seemed to perform well here were Josh Brown and Robbie Gould who were already established NFL kickers.

who said the Chase Blackburn promoted to Special Teams Coach thread was NGT : )

asssist Quinn for a few years? So maybe he's just coming back to help Quinn some more.

In comment 13797734 Eric from BBI said:

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was an assistant special teams coach here under Coughlin.

(Gulp)

In comment 13797742 Jimmy Googs said:

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giving Quinn a pass, and I remember who some of you are. Some of my favorite excuses... "We had a bad bottom roster and thats where ST guys come from" "We don't draft well in late rounds" "His units were up and down over the years" "Yeah but remember how big STs played during the NFC Champ game in SF" "How can you blame Quinn because his guys can't (fill in the blank)" "NFL rules dont allow for enough practice time to focus on Special Teams" anything I missed?

Hmmm kinda like you with our QB...pot meet kettle...

In comment 13797746 GFAN52 said:

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hope so.

I don't want to see Rosas released yet. Let's see how he does over the off-season. The Giants need to bring in a proven veteran to compete with him though. Take a look around the league and you will find several kickers who struggled early in their careers only to turn into good kickers. Rosas has a very talented leg and the Giants need a second kicker anyway for training camp.

Spags.

In comment 13797754 Phil in LA said:

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asssist Quinn for a few years? So maybe he's just coming back to help Quinn some more.

hehehe -- Eric's gonna ban you

Yes!!!!!

Quinn to come back as offensive quality control coach
Lol

that things worked out the way they did here during eli's golden years. i wish mara had had the balls to fire reese (or at least ross) once the dearth of talent and lack of viable replacements for aging core players became apparent by 2012-2013. i can understand how he couldn't really feel a need to fire reese or ross so soon after the 2nd superbowl win, though. just a shame that he botched things even further after 2015 in deciding to let coughlin walk but hold on to reese and ross and various other garbage on the coaching staff (i.e., quinn, gilbride jr.)

well, this guy WORKED for Tom Quinn... hope he didn't rub off on him.

In comment 13797757 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 13797746 GFAN52 said: Quote: hope so. I don't want to see Rosas released yet. Let's see how he does over the off-season. The Giants need to bring in a proven veteran to compete with him though. Take a look around the league and you will find several kickers who struggled early in their careers only to turn into good kickers. Rosas has a very talented leg and the Giants need a second kicker anyway for training camp.

rosas has a big leg but terrible aim. i can't remember the giants having a worse kicker in my lifetime.. rookie HC who was OC on a losing team for 2 years, trading up to draft a third string QB in the 3rd round, going with a rookie kicker over a proven vet, drafting garbage at OL and insisting on NOT looking for upgrades.. this organization certainly had a curious approach to "win now" mode, with an aging MVP QB..

glad the ship has been righted but im still bitter about all of the braindead decisions these past 6 years.

This mean Tom or gone or he's there to be an assistant? Won't make sense for him to pass up other jobs if he accepted a position here like that.

In comment 13797754 Phil in LA said:

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asssist Quinn for a few years? So maybe he's just coming back to help Quinn some more.

He texted me before the game that Rosas missed nearly every kick in the pregame warmup.
Then Rosas misses a 33 yard field goal wide Left and we go scoreless.

This team deteriorated in all phases this past year.
At seasons end - this may be the worst Giants team I’ve ever seen.

Change from top to bottom is very much needed.

In comment 13797756 JCin332 said:

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In comment 13797742 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: giving Quinn a pass, and I remember who some of you are. Some of my favorite excuses... "We had a bad bottom roster and thats where ST guys come from" "We don't draft well in late rounds" "His units were up and down over the years" "Yeah but remember how big STs played during the NFC Champ game in SF" "How can you blame Quinn because his guys can't (fill in the blank)" "NFL rules dont allow for enough practice time to focus on Special Teams" anything I missed? Hmmm kinda like you with our QB...pot meet kettle...

how's that chucklehead?

takes way too much garbage from people on here.

and feel Shurmur is well aware of its details. DG has been around too long and would not want to alienate his new HC by leaving him out of the loop. MO. It will be a long two weeks, here on BBI, if the Vikes make it to the SB.

In comment 13797772 japanhead said:

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In comment 13797757 Jay on the Island said: Quote: In comment 13797746 GFAN52 said: Quote: hope so. I don't want to see Rosas released yet. Let's see how he does over the off-season. The Giants need to bring in a proven veteran to compete with him though. Take a look around the league and you will find several kickers who struggled early in their careers only to turn into good kickers. Rosas has a very talented leg and the Giants need a second kicker anyway for training camp. rosas has a big leg but terrible aim. i can't remember the giants having a worse kicker in my lifetime.. rookie HC who was OC on a losing team for 2 years, trading up to draft a third string QB in the 3rd round, going with a rookie kicker over a proven vet, drafting garbage at OL and insisting on NOT looking for upgrades.. this organization certainly had a curious approach to "win now" mode, with an aging MVP QB.. glad the ship has been righted but im still bitter about all of the braindead decisions these past 6 years.

FFS they didn't trade up for Webb. This isn't the first time you've said this, either.

Plenty of legitimately great kickers were lousy in their first year.

I don’t want a single coach left from the McAd’oh buffoon squad. Quinn was always such a mystery. Year in and year our specials were a joke. Why in the world would McAd’oh have kept Quinn around? Why would anyone keep Quinn around? He must have had some dirt on the owners. No other explanation.

The final element of this disgraceful season that needs to be purged is Spags. Folks, if Spags sticks around after the embarrassing 16 games of half hearted defensive play his unit turned in this past season then you can be sure that Quinn gifted his blackmail photos to Spags. Nothing else could explain keeping around these idiots.

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In true Reese form, he even tries to prove he is smarter than everyone else when it comes to his placekickers. Unknown out of some lower level school in the pacific northwest, never had to take, let alone make, a big kick in his entire life, known for a youtube video which may have been heavily edited, Reese signs him up and makes him the assumed starting kicker with no competition, on what was supposed to be a super bowl contending team. You cannot make this stuff up.

In comment 13797810 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13797772 japanhead said: Quote: In comment 13797757 Jay on the Island said: Quote: In comment 13797746 GFAN52 said: Quote: hope so. I don't want to see Rosas released yet. Let's see how he does over the off-season. The Giants need to bring in a proven veteran to compete with him though. Take a look around the league and you will find several kickers who struggled early in their careers only to turn into good kickers. Rosas has a very talented leg and the Giants need a second kicker anyway for training camp. rosas has a big leg but terrible aim. i can't remember the giants having a worse kicker in my lifetime.. rookie HC who was OC on a losing team for 2 years, trading up to draft a third string QB in the 3rd round, going with a rookie kicker over a proven vet, drafting garbage at OL and insisting on NOT looking for upgrades.. this organization certainly had a curious approach to "win now" mode, with an aging MVP QB.. glad the ship has been righted but im still bitter about all of the braindead decisions these past 6 years. FFS they didn't trade up for Webb. This isn't the first time you've said this, either.

The last time this was mentioned on a thread, not sure if it was the same guy but I’m assuming it was, I specifically asked him to provide details of what the Giants traded to move up for Webb. Of course he disappeared and never answered. I’m sure he will not respond here either and just keep regurgitating the same garbage in other threads.

Wing -see ya.

In comment 13797804 Sammo85 said:

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takes way too much garbage from people on here.

He’s been a failure at his job. That’s the bottom line

In comment 13797804 Sammo85 said:

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takes way too much garbage from people on here.

Why do you think this? I’d love to hear how you can possibly defend Quinn and the job he’s done....

In comment 13797823 Chris said:

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In true Reese form, he even tries to prove he is smarter than everyone else when it comes to his placekickers. Unknown out of some lower level school in the pacific northwest, never had to take, let alone make, a big kick in his entire life, known for a youtube video which may have been heavily edited, Reese signs him up and makes him the assumed starting kicker with no competition, on what was supposed to be a super bowl contending team. You cannot make this stuff up.

The school argument is pretty irrelevant for a kicker though. And you're completely wrong on the "no competition" thing. There was a very good kicking competition in camp.

In comment 13797804 Sammo85 said:

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takes way too much garbage from people on here.

What? Show me one other coach who had an extra point, field goal and punt all blocked in the same game? How about making an adjustment after the 1st of those?

I've never seen that happen in any game including High School and he should've been fired that night. He deserved all the criticism thrown his way. It's the big leagues and he got paid to coach. It wasn't Pee Wee football where he volunteered for helping out.

They only signed any kind of competition for Rosas once camp already began, and had only leftover table scraps to choose from. Not exactly a proactive plan. And to retain Rosas after a lousy first year, you'd have to show me some evidence he was ever any good to begin with.

but THANK GOD. The fact that he was here this long through multiple coaches really has to make you wonder..

In comment 13797841 Chris said:

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They only signed any kind of competition for Rosas once camp already began, and had only leftover table scraps to choose from. Not exactly a proactive plan. And to retain Rosas after a lousy first year, you'd have to show me some evidence he was ever any good to begin with.

It was Mike Nugent, a veteran kicker, who was perfect in preseason and so was Rosas. The right decision was keeping the younger player with the bigger leg for kickoffs.

Giants were 28th in the league in touchback percentage under Rosas. Early in the season, when the games actually counted, it seemed like they were reluctant to even go to Rosas on any kick of 50+ yeards, his supposed strength. I get that they wanted to go with a younger kicker, but dont agree Rosas is that guy. They should upgrade the position for next season.