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Meanwhile McAdoo on list for Vikings OC

Defenderdawg : 1/21/2018 10:12 am
Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet)
1/21/18, 9:54 AM
The #Vikings will have to replace OC Pat Shurmur when he takes over the #Giants. Two key names they'll consider: Former #Broncos OC Mike McCoy & former #Giants coach Ben McAdoo. Both are in the mix for other jobs, too.
Gotta assume  
mattyblue : 1/21/2018 10:30 am : link
Spags is staying on as the D coordinator. He hasn’t had an interview for anything, yet somehow Macadoo has. I’d prefer to start over on defense but it sure seems like Spags.
Ha ha, I'd sign up for swapping Shurmur for Big Mac  
PatersonPlank : 1/21/2018 10:45 am : link
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McAdoo really didn’t prove himself as OC with the Giants. I don’t know  
Ivan15 : 1/21/2018 10:45 am : link
know why anyone would hire him as OC until he earns his way back up by being a position coach.

He has proven to NOT be the coordinator that McDaniels and Shurmur apparently are.
McAdoo just doesn’t call a good game  
Rflairr : 1/21/2018 10:47 am : link
Not good at adjustments either. Good luck to whoever hires him. Think you need a strong offensive HC to keep him in line
To be fair  
BillT : 1/21/2018 10:50 am : link
The Giants offense was pretty good with him at OC. Two 30(+) TD seasons for Eli. Near 25 ppg.
RE: Gotta assume  
Matt M. : 1/21/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 13798477 mattyblue said:
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Spags is staying on as the D coordinator. He hasn’t had an interview for anything, yet somehow Macadoo has. I’d prefer to start over on defense but it sure seems like Spags.
Why is this necessarily a sign he is staying? Maybe it's an indication of what the rest of the league thinks about him right now. He got zero interviews for other HC jobs, which is saying something, considering everyone and their mother got interviews.

However, if he is still under contract with the Giants, other teams may be staying away, as he would have to be hired for a title higher than DC and it would require asking the Giants permission to interview.
Have there been alot of DC interviews?  
twostepgiants : 1/21/2018 10:59 am : link
That have been out there
RE: McAdoo just doesn’t call a good game  
Rory : 1/21/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13798492 Rflairr said:
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Not good at adjustments either. Good luck to whoever hires him. Think you need a strong offensive HC to keep him in line


How many adjustments can you make when your starting WR's are Tavarres King and Roger Lewis and protection is inconsistent
Seriously don’t understand how this guy gets an interview  
trueblueinpw : 1/21/2018 11:01 am : link
He’s a disaster and that’s already well established on game film and all his ridiculous pressers. On The Ringer, Mike Lombardi always talked about how remarkably unimpressive McAd’oh was during his interview with the Lions. I seriously wonder what people see in this moron.
RE: RE: McAdoo just doesn’t call a good game  
Rflairr : 1/21/2018 11:02 am : link
In comment 13798507 Rory said:
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Not good at adjustments either. Good luck to whoever hires him. Think you need a strong offensive HC to keep him in line



How many adjustments can you make when your starting WR's are Tavarres King and Roger Lewis and protection is inconsistent


Yawn. What was the excuse before the injuries
RE: Gotta assume  
Rflairr : 1/21/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 13798477 mattyblue said:
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Spags is staying on as the D coordinator. He hasn’t had an interview for anything, yet somehow Macadoo has. I’d prefer to start over on defense but it sure seems like Spags.


He’s coordinated 2 of the worst defenses in Giants history. Why should people be knocking the door down for him?
no way in hell i'd hire McAdoo as a coordinator  
markky : 1/21/2018 11:09 am : link
how could you predict his behavior? he could come in and be a pompous ass.

after this year's shit show he'd have to start from the beginning for me.
RE: RE: Gotta assume  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/21/2018 11:10 am : link
In comment 13798502 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13798477 mattyblue said:


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Spags is staying on as the D coordinator. He hasn’t had an interview for anything, yet somehow Macadoo has. I’d prefer to start over on defense but it sure seems like Spags.

Why is this necessarily a sign he is staying? Maybe it's an indication of what the rest of the league thinks about him right now. He got zero interviews for other HC jobs, which is saying something, considering everyone and their mother got interviews.

However, if he is still under contract with the Giants, other teams may be staying away, as he would have to be hired for a title higher than DC and it would require asking the Giants permission to interview.


But the Giants have already given their permission to all their coaches to interview for other positions.
RE: To be fair  
D-Rod : 1/21/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 13798496 BillT said:
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The Giants offense was pretty good with him at OC. Two 30(+) TD seasons for Eli. Near 25 ppg.


But that offense had Coughlin influences. More vertical routes and stayed with the run game. Once Coughlin was out, Macadoo’s offensive game plan eliminated those 2 features and was horrendous.
RE: RE: McAdoo just doesn’t call a good game  
Matt M. : 1/21/2018 11:14 am : link
In comment 13798507 Rory said:
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Not good at adjustments either. Good luck to whoever hires him. Think you need a strong offensive HC to keep him in line



How many adjustments can you make when your starting WR's are Tavarres King and Roger Lewis and protection is inconsistent
You can make a bunch. Before injuries and after, he coached exactly the same. He made a ridiculously bad gameplan and refused to deviate a bit. In the few games where the running game showed some life, he ignored what he saw and called the same game. It was as if the entire game was scripted. He also made no adjustments week to week. He thought he was the smartest man on the field and that's that.

Besides gameplanning and playcalling, his in game management was terrible. That ranges from clock management, challenges, personnel, etc.
RE: no way in hell i'd hire McAdoo as a coordinator  
Rory : 1/21/2018 11:14 am : link
In comment 13798515 markky said:
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how could you predict his behavior? he could come in and be a pompous ass.

after this year's shit show he'd have to start from the beginning for me.


you honestly think he would do that after how this season turned out?, he has to show the league a change in approach.
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christian : 1/21/2018 11:15 am : link
I imagine he will be back in GB and rehab his career for another run at a gig in a few years.
Just playing devils advocate..  
bLiTz 2k : 1/21/2018 11:55 am : link
his two years here as an OC did exactly what he was hired for...fixed a "broken" offense and brought them back from the bottom of the league to a competent unit...

As a HC we all know this took a turn for the worst...but I feel like in a good situation he will eventually be a decent coach.

Guy didnt have any OC experience when he came here...For everyone that wanted McDaniels this year, its not farfetched to say McAdoo cant bounce back.
RE: McAdoo really didn’t prove himself as OC with the Giants. I don’t know  
an_idol_mind : 1/21/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13798490 Ivan15 said:
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know why anyone would hire him as OC until he earns his way back up by being a position coach.

He has proven to NOT be the coordinator that McDaniels and Shurmur apparently are.


Lots of folks seem to conveniently forget how McAdoo helped turn the Giants offense around after an abysmal 2013 season. He put together two of Eli's best seasons and the team finished top 10 in offense both seasons. This was all despite a bad offensive line.

Sucks that he was in over his head as a head coach, but he has a good record as an offensive coordinator.
RE: RE: To be fair  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/21/2018 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13798521 D-Rod said:
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The Giants offense was pretty good with him at OC. Two 30(+) TD seasons for Eli. Near 25 ppg.



But that offense had Coughlin influences. More vertical routes and stayed with the run game. Once Coughlin was out, Macadoo’s offensive game plan eliminated those 2 features and was horrendous.


Agree... Coughlin’s influence made a big difference.
This would make the Vikings easy to prepare against  
mfsd : 1/21/2018 12:44 pm : link
for our DC when we play them

RE: To be fair  
FStubbs : 1/21/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13798496 BillT said:
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The Giants offense was pretty good with him at OC. Two 30(+) TD seasons for Eli. Near 25 ppg.


If this were any other team we'd quickly say "he just relied on the offensive-minded head coach to actually devise the offense, when left on his own he was clueless and lost."

McAdoo hasn't proven himself as an OC.
For those saying McAdoo "fixed" a broken offense when he was O-co...  
trueblueinpw : 1/21/2018 1:34 pm : link
Please remember that the same year McAdoo was hired as O-co a certain someone named Odell also joined the Giants offense. OBJ is considered to be one of the most prolific wide-receivers ever, so, you know, that might have a bit of an impact on McAdoo's ability to "fix" the broken offense.
RE: For those saying McAdoo  
an_idol_mind : 1/21/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13798711 trueblueinpw said:
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Please remember that the same year McAdoo was hired as O-co a certain someone named Odell also joined the Giants offense. OBJ is considered to be one of the most prolific wide-receivers ever, so, you know, that might have a bit of an impact on McAdoo's ability to "fix" the broken offense.


Beckham was injured for the first quarter of the season, during which time the Giants hung 30 on the Texans and 45 on the Redskins.

Nobody is trying to say McAdoo was the greatest, but his offense in 2014 and 2015 performed well.
RE: McAdoo really didn’t prove himself as OC with the Giants. I don’t know  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/21/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13798490 Ivan15 said:
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know why anyone would hire him as OC until he earns his way back up by being a position coach.

He has proven to NOT be the coordinator that McDaniels and Shurmur apparently are.
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Cant see this. My guess it’s his agent pushing anything w his name
Attached He was basically the OC for 4 years. His two seasons where he really had full control of the offense were the last two. He was a disaster. Mr 11 3 WRs should be over joyed w any NFL job. OC seems a pipe dream
RE: RE: McAdoo just doesn’t call a good game  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/21/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13798507 Rory said:
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Not good at adjustments either. Good luck to whoever hires him. Think you need a strong offensive HC to keep him in line



How many adjustments can you make when your starting WR's are Tavarres King and Roger Lewis and protection is inconsistent


Before any injuries to the WRs and the additions of both Ellison and Smith in 2017 as a FB he was still running 3 WRs over 90% or the time. Feel free to differ but he had about 18 games to adjust and diversify. I wouldnt hire him at all due to that and his really arrogant behavior last season. Certainly not as an OC. He also had only one year as Rodgers QB coach. Not sure but I can’t inagine much of he anything to impart to Rodgers that would lead me to believe he’s some great offensive mind.
Nope...  
DonQuixote : 1/21/2018 10:54 pm : link
They are going to promote their QB coach...stellar resume, hire from within.
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