we'll see... Spags' guys except the one they supposedly didn't want to leave haven't left.
I'm guessing this is a very good rumor based on Del Rio reaching out to prospective assistants -- once you start involving multiple people it's hard to contain it
Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
I was getting worried as I've heard a few people on radio mention the ties to Spags, which I had forgotten about. I really don't want him or any of the current coaches.
I agree with Stan. Anyone but Spags and I like Spags but I think the Giants need clean coaching sweep on defense.
Will be a refreshing change if the Giants hire a HC and DC that's aren't part of the Mara Bros Ring of Trust after hiring the new GM and ST coach the Wellington way.
For whatever it's worth even though they were hired the Wellington way I think Gettleman and McGaughey are going to be major upgrades.
I agree with Stan. Anyone but Spags and I like Spags but I think the Giants need clean coaching sweep on defense.
Will be a refreshing change if the Giants hire a HC and DC that's aren't part of the Mara Bros Ring of Trust after hiring the new GM and ST coach the Wellington way.
For whatever it's worth even though they were hired the Wellington way I think Gettleman and McGaughey are going to be major upgrades.
Id love for that clown who spammed his "Mara Bros" nonsense to come here and eat crow...which we know wont happen.
Speaking of the Mara Bros, as good as things have been going so far this of season, they can really kick it up to incredible if/when they announce that Chris Mara is separating from the team to pursue... whatever, no one cares! Just leave.
Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
Giants should definitely disqualify him based on this story.
The nerve of a guy who is trying to enjoy some privacy on an airplane.
It's exactly the kind of thing youd expect an Adam Sandler villain would do.
No former Eagles players allowed on the NYG sideline.
Former Eagles coaches is where I draw the line. I will accept the coaches, but he'll no to the players!
Are finally willing to break the mold on doing things as they always have. This past season sucked so much life out of this proud organization which resulted in the product looking like a steaming pile of shit, they have concluded they must do things they have never done.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
There might be a minimum like with players. But that is just an assumption.
The OC hire will matter to me slightly less than the DC hire - Shurmur will have his fingerprints all over the offense and he's proven he knows how to run one.
I realize we just did this with McAdoo but McAdoo had less of a proven track record as a coordinator before he was promoted and I think Shurmur is a far better football coach.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
If you told this story about Jerry Jones or Zeke Elliot, all of BBI would be denouncing him. But because Giants might hire JDR suddenly being a dick to some klids is just a matter of privacy.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
I get that he's being paid by oakland, but how does it work that any money he makes here is only an offset of that money rather than a separate contract? That doesn't make sense to me.
we'll see... Spags' guys except the one they supposedly didn't want to leave haven't left.
Have they stayed because they want to stay, or have they stayed because no body wants them?
What would the odds be of nobody wanting any of them (other than Graham)? Even considering the shit show we were subjected to this past season, I think the offense was clearly the lesser of the two units, and most of those guys got new jobs. Hell, even McAdoo is getting interviews. While they were told by management that they were free to explore other options, that's not really the same as being told they were out. Knowing that Spags and Shurmur have a history together, they may have felt that there was a chance they would be retained.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that he was going to make the same $6 million no matter what. So if Mara pays him 3 million, he will get 3 million from the Raiders. Maybe I misunderstood it. But if that's the case then why would Mara pay him since it's coming from the Raiders anyway? But again, maybe I misunderstood.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
I get that he's being paid by oakland, but how does it work that any money he makes here is only an offset of that money rather than a separate contract? That doesn't make sense to me.
ESPN said any money he makes will offset the Oakland salary so why would any team pay him a lot when they don't have to? It is like Revis this year. He was getting paid a ton by the Jets and signed for peanuts with no guaranteed money with KC. Link - ( New Window )
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
would be a dick move sportsmanship. The Maras like to play nice within the league, so they're not likely to stick it to another team. They'll give a fair contract.
But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Hes not working for free. He wont get the amount hes getting from the Raiders. There is almost always offset languange in coaches contracts that gives teams some relief if they get another job. So whatever he makes as an NFL assistant coach, that amount is discounted and not paid by Oakland. Oakland will be on the hook minus what he gets from the Giants. Maybe he willingly takes a below market contract to screw the Raiders. Especially if he feels he was scapegoated for the injuries or shoved out the door for Chucky. Why not do his new bosses a solid by taking a below market deal.
My understanding of how it works with the Oakland contract:
First of all, the terms of his extension arent public, so we dont know for sure what the guarantees are or how long they last. Second, while its true that his new salary will be an offset against the guarantee, its unusual for the hiring club to take full advantage. Sometimes, a coach with a big guarantee will take a one-year consulting gig and work for free/cheap; but I think the protocol with full-time jobs like coordinator is to let the market dictate the price. I cant prove that, but I also cant think of an example of a team getting a big-name coordinator at a crazy bargain price because he was still being paid by his old club.
I think the point of the he wont be doing it for the money line is that Del Rio doesnt need to work to get paid, not that money wont be a factor if he has to choose between multiple offers.
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What the hell did Graziano mean by that comment "sad"?
Graziano didn't write that.
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What the hell did Graziano mean by that comment "sad"?
Hes just being a prick as usual.
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What the hell did Graziano mean by that comment "sad"?
That was an idiot responding to Graziano.
Hes just being a prick as usual.
Graziano didn't say it.
I'm guessing this is a very good rumor based on Del Rio reaching out to prospective assistants -- once you start involving multiple people it's hard to contain it
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
Curious. What is the flight time from Jax/Atl?
Will be a refreshing change if the Giants hire a HC and DC that's aren't part of the Mara Bros Ring of Trust after hiring the new GM and ST coach the Wellington way.
For whatever it's worth even though they were hired the Wellington way I think Gettleman and McGaughey are going to be major upgrades.
Will be a refreshing change if the Giants hire a HC and DC that's aren't part of the Mara Bros Ring of Trust after hiring the new GM and ST coach the Wellington way.
For whatever it's worth even though they were hired the Wellington way I think Gettleman and McGaughey are going to be major upgrades.
...right on que.
Otherwise, I would love to have him.
Otherwise, I would love to have him.
I don't know if he is getting another HC job. He could be here for a while.
Otherwise, I would love to have him.
Already had 2 shots. He's going to have to pay his dues to earn another. If we bring in DeFilippo, he's likely to be 1 and done.
This a good thing, and does not preclude Slags staying on. He can coach the LBs.
Speaking of the Mara Bros, as good as things have been going so far this of season, they can really kick it up to incredible if/when they announce that Chris Mara is separating from the team to pursue... whatever, no one cares! Just leave.
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Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
Giants should definitely disqualify him based on this story.
The nerve of a guy who is trying to enjoy some privacy on an airplane.
It's exactly the kind of thing youd expect an Adam Sandler villain would do.
No former Eagles players allowed on the NYG sideline.
Former Eagles coaches is where I draw the line. I will accept the coaches, but he'll no to the players!
There might be a minimum like with players. But that is just an assumption.
I realize we just did this with McAdoo but McAdoo had less of a proven track record as a coordinator before he was promoted and I think Shurmur is a far better football coach.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
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Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
If you told this story about Jerry Jones or Zeke Elliot, all of BBI would be denouncing him. But because Giants might hire JDR suddenly being a dick to some klids is just a matter of privacy.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
I get that he's being paid by oakland, but how does it work that any money he makes here is only an offset of that money rather than a separate contract? That doesn't make sense to me.
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we'll see... Spags' guys except the one they supposedly didn't want to leave haven't left.
Have they stayed because they want to stay, or have they stayed because no body wants them?
What would the odds be of nobody wanting any of them (other than Graham)? Even considering the shit show we were subjected to this past season, I think the offense was clearly the lesser of the two units, and most of those guys got new jobs. Hell, even McAdoo is getting interviews. While they were told by management that they were free to explore other options, that's not really the same as being told they were out. Knowing that Spags and Shurmur have a history together, they may have felt that there was a chance they would be retained.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that he was going to make the same $6 million no matter what. So if Mara pays him 3 million, he will get 3 million from the Raiders. Maybe I misunderstood it. But if that's the case then why would Mara pay him since it's coming from the Raiders anyway? But again, maybe I misunderstood.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
I get that he's being paid by oakland, but how does it work that any money he makes here is only an offset of that money rather than a separate contract? That doesn't make sense to me.
ESPN said any money he makes will offset the Oakland salary so why would any team pay him a lot when they don't have to? It is like Revis this year. He was getting paid a ton by the Jets and signed for peanuts with no guaranteed money with KC.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Huh? No matter what, Del Rio is getting paid $6 million per year over the next 3 years. Why does it matter who is paying him? How does that affect his agent?
It doesn't. It affects Mara and Tisch.
However, they won't have to get in a bidding war.
He's got a California touchy/feely vibe, more rah-rah than x's and o's.
One of his retweets:
"Jon GordonVerified account @JonGordon11
Talking to a mental coach I said: The real key to help your players is your connection and belief in them. It's not strategy. It's love."
I hope he'll have good position coaches for the strategy.
So let me say I would love to stand corrected. Del Rio would be fantastic.
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But if the Raiders are subsidizing Del Rio for $6 Million for 3 years and it's unlikely that a guy with the HC experience he has is staying beyond 3 years and it's unlikely that a DC is going to be paid more than $6 Million, can we get away with no paying anything? I know it doesn't matter from a salary cap standpoint, but it would be a nice selling point to Mara.
Why would someone work for free? Yes, he's being paid out from his raiders contract, but he'd still be working here.
Coaches have agents too.
Hes not working for free. He wont get the amount hes getting from the Raiders. There is almost always offset languange in coaches contracts that gives teams some relief if they get another job. So whatever he makes as an NFL assistant coach, that amount is discounted and not paid by Oakland. Oakland will be on the hook minus what he gets from the Giants. Maybe he willingly takes a below market contract to screw the Raiders. Especially if he feels he was scapegoated for the injuries or shoved out the door for Chucky. Why not do his new bosses a solid by taking a below market deal.
I think the point of the he wont be doing it for the money line is that Del Rio doesnt need to work to get paid, not that money wont be a factor if he has to choose between multiple offers.