has a few local guys he could recruit from his Oakland staff in Rob Moore (Hempstead), Mike Tice (Islip), and Bernie Parmalee (Jersey City.) They are all offensive coaches so Shurmur would have to agree, of course.
Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
I have a good DelRio story. My friend's son was UDFA Fb for the Jaguars, the kid makes it to the final cut down, he has his knee blown out in practice, to this day DelRio has remained friends with my friend and his son.
yeah... I'm not a celebrity, and I don't want to be bothered by anyone on a flight either... I have no idea why that was even posted as a stpry. This is a class guy and I would be very happy with him as our DC
RE: May have been mentioned in a post but didn't see it..... Â
After this game, Playing against Philly defense twice a year might be more than he wants to deal with.
Sadly I’m thinking tonight won’t be the last ass kicking Shurmur will experience at the hands of the fucking Eagles. He and Gettleman have quite a talent gap to try and narrow; especially if Wentz becomes the perennial mvp candidate it appears he will.
RE: Has there any rumors about who he is interested in Â
After this game, Playing against Philly defense twice a year might be more than he wants to deal with.
Sadly I’m thinking tonight won’t be the last ass kicking Shurmur will experience at the hands of the fucking Eagles. He and Gettleman have quite a talent gap to try and narrow; especially if Wentz becomes the perennial mvp candidate it appears he will.
One reason we need to get a franchise QB.
It's incredibly difficult to be a consistent franchise. Â
We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
RE: It's incredibly difficult to be a consistent franchise. Â
We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
Last year people thought the Raiders would be a force for a long time and that Derek Carr will be the next great QB.
is an upgrade over Spagnuolo, who put on a floor show this season. He got away with it. Nothing was ever reported because he’s kissed the right asses in the media, and it was way too much fun for them to piss on McAdoo, instead.
That said, Del Rio is a formulaic coordinator , who relies heavily on four men to generate a pass rush . He isn’t an aggressive , pressures-oriented coach. Better find him a pass rusher.
RE: It's incredibly difficult to be a consistent franchise. Â
We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
RE: RE: It's incredibly difficult to be a consistent franchise. Â
We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
Meanwhile people are saying we should draft Nelson with a straight face.
RE: RE: It's incredibly difficult to be a consistent franchise. Â
We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
Wentz is certainly going to be around for a while, but with his style of play he might get hurt against. And they're not going to keep that defense around. With success comes guys looking for money and teams looking to poach their players. Guys pile up the injuries, guys slow down, GMs get overconfident and complacent. There's no sure things in this league except the patriots, and they only earned that through decades of beating that into everyone's heads.
No former Eagles players allowed on the NYG sideline.
Former Eagles coaches is where I draw the line. I will accept the coaches, but he'll no to the players!
Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
I have a good DelRio story. My friend's son was UDFA Fb for the Jaguars, the kid makes it to the final cut down, he has his knee blown out in practice, to this day DelRio has remained friends with my friend and his son.
yeah... I'm not a celebrity, and I don't want to be bothered by anyone on a flight either... I have no idea why that was even posted as a stpry. This is a class guy and I would be very happy with him as our DC
their own mess and not worry about Philly at this time. Getting Shurmur and possibly DelRio is, hopefully, a good start. Thankfully this isn't a total roster gut job. There's some talent on this roster to build with. If the right guys have been hired, they can be right there again in relatively short order. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that Chip Kelly was making a mess of the Eagles either.
is an upgrade over Spagnuolo, who put on a floor show this season. He got away with it. Nothing was ever reported because he’s kissed the right asses in the media, and it was way too much fun for them to piss on McAdoo, instead.
That said, Del Rio is a formulaic coordinator , who relies heavily on four men to generate a pass rush . He isn’t an aggressive , pressures-oriented coach. Better find him a pass rusher.
Agreed, a lot of basic assignment defensive schemes relying on man to beat his man, which NYG was dreadful at in 2017.
Del Rio
Millburn : 6:59 am : link : reply
No, I would rather keep Spags.Name the last top flight Defense he had?
Del Rio was only a DC for 3.5 years - subtract 1/2 year for when he filled in as interim HC when Fox had health issues.
It that time he fielded two top defensive units.
I'm assuming the snarky question has to do with his time as HC instead of DC or you really don't know much about Del Rio, and even then, he had top 10 defenses 3 years in Jacksonville.
The one thing you don't want Del Rio to do is institute the "Keep chopping wood" mantra. Other than that, he's been pretty damn consistent.
No, I would rather keep Spags.Name the last top flight Defense he had?
In five of the past six years, Spagnuolo has either run a defense that was ranked 31st or 32nd in the league, or was a position coach with limited scope of responsibility. Two of those years as DC, he oversaw units that finished among the worst in NFL history.
So when you say you'd rather keep Spags, what exactly is that based on?
Would love that as long as he’s healthy.
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Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
I have a good DelRio story. My friend's son was UDFA Fb for the Jaguars, the kid makes it to the final cut down, he has his knee blown out in practice, to this day DelRio has remained friends with my friend and his son.
yeah... I'm not a celebrity, and I don't want to be bothered by anyone on a flight either... I have no idea why that was even posted as a stpry. This is a class guy and I would be very happy with him as our DC
I'd take a chance on him, I really want Bradham from the eagle, would be sick if we could get both
Really?! The Giants nearly beat them twice this year. Should have beat them the first game.
Hate the Eagles with vigor! Anyway, I’m sure Shurmer knows these players and can come up with a plan to beat them. He knows the NFC East pretty well.
Sadly I’m thinking tonight won’t be the last ass kicking Shurmur will experience at the hands of the fucking Eagles. He and Gettleman have quite a talent gap to try and narrow; especially if Wentz becomes the perennial mvp candidate it appears he will.
He should grab the Vikings QB coach ... great resume ... but I think the Vikings will hire him.
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After this game, Playing against Philly defense twice a year might be more than he wants to deal with.
Sadly I’m thinking tonight won’t be the last ass kicking Shurmur will experience at the hands of the fucking Eagles. He and Gettleman have quite a talent gap to try and narrow; especially if Wentz becomes the perennial mvp candidate it appears he will.
One reason we need to get a franchise QB.
Last year people thought the Raiders would be a force for a long time and that Derek Carr will be the next great QB.
That said, Del Rio is a formulaic coordinator , who relies heavily on four men to generate a pass rush . He isn’t an aggressive , pressures-oriented coach. Better find him a pass rusher.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
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We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
Meanwhile people are saying we should draft Nelson with a straight face.
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We don't need to play the outdated "they're gonna be a force for a long time" card. It's a year to year league with the way contracts and injuries define the balance of power in the NFL.
The consistent teams are generally the ones with elite, mvp type qb’s. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, etc. NYG fandom aside, it’s pretty obvious Wentz is approaching that sort of level. Hell, he was likely winning mvp this year before getting hurt. And if he does indeed become that sort of player, the NYG, Dallas, and Redskins essentially become everyone in the AFC and NFC North when Rodgers and Ben are healthy. And that is fighting for 2nd place. For me, this is the #1 reason why I’m “qb or bust” in the draft. Wentz isn’t going anywhere and Roseman will put a good team around him. The NYG must respond.
Wentz is certainly going to be around for a while, but with his style of play he might get hurt against. And they're not going to keep that defense around. With success comes guys looking for money and teams looking to poach their players. Guys pile up the injuries, guys slow down, GMs get overconfident and complacent. There's no sure things in this league except the patriots, and they only earned that through decades of beating that into everyone's heads.
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No former Eagles players allowed on the NYG sideline.
Former Eagles coaches is where I draw the line. I will accept the coaches, but he'll no to the players!
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Jack Del Rio and his wife sat across from my row in first class cabin from JAX to ATL about 10 years ago.
Couple of young kids walked up to front of plane and asked him for his autograph. Del Rio looked perturbed and told the kids he was busy and that he would sign it in the airport after they get off the plane.
Del Rio gets off the plane with the rest of our first class cabin and walks on his merry way down the terminal. The kids presumably deplane minutes later and never see him again.
Not for nothing, but that was a dick move...
I have a good DelRio story. My friend's son was UDFA Fb for the Jaguars, the kid makes it to the final cut down, he has his knee blown out in practice, to this day DelRio has remained friends with my friend and his son.
yeah... I'm not a celebrity, and I don't want to be bothered by anyone on a flight either... I have no idea why that was even posted as a stpry. This is a class guy and I would be very happy with him as our DC
I usually allow autographs...
2014, when Denver had the third ranked defense.
That said, Del Rio is a formulaic coordinator , who relies heavily on four men to generate a pass rush . He isn’t an aggressive , pressures-oriented coach. Better find him a pass rusher.
Agreed, a lot of basic assignment defensive schemes relying on man to beat his man, which NYG was dreadful at in 2017.
Well Spags may have had a couple "top flight" defenses, but he also as presided over some awful defenses.
Oh wait, I forgot, none of that was his fault.
Del Rio has been more consistent.
Millburn : 6:59 am : link : reply
No, I would rather keep Spags.Name the last top flight Defense he had?
Del Rio was only a DC for 3.5 years - subtract 1/2 year for when he filled in as interim HC when Fox had health issues.
It that time he fielded two top defensive units.
I'm assuming the snarky question has to do with his time as HC instead of DC or you really don't know much about Del Rio, and even then, he had top 10 defenses 3 years in Jacksonville.
The one thing you don't want Del Rio to do is institute the "Keep chopping wood" mantra. Other than that, he's been pretty damn consistent.
In five of the past six years, Spagnuolo has either run a defense that was ranked 31st or 32nd in the league, or was a position coach with limited scope of responsibility. Two of those years as DC, he oversaw units that finished among the worst in NFL history.
So when you say you'd rather keep Spags, what exactly is that based on?