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Leonard already questioning if Shurmur is worse than Mcadoo

ajr2456 : 1/22/2018 9:04 am
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How strange it is, though, that Shurmur’s Vikings scored only seven points on the Eagles Sunday and yet he is about to replace McAdoo, whose 3-13 Giants were one of the few clubs to move the ball well against Schwartz’s D — 415 yards and 24 points in Week 3, then 504 yards and 29 points after McAdoo got fired.

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Leonard sucks.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/22/2018 9:05 am : link
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Pretty sure  
Disturbed1 : 1/22/2018 9:05 am : link
this is the same guy who got kicked off the rangers beat
That analysis sounds like a 5 year old came up with it  
BestFeature : 1/22/2018 9:06 am : link
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Leonard's role model is  
dune69 : 1/22/2018 9:09 am : link
Skip Bayless
..  
ATL_Giants : 1/22/2018 9:10 am : link
"How strange it is, though, that..."

That right there should end his career as a professional writer.
the daily news needs to be burned with fire  
mphbullet36 : 1/22/2018 9:10 am : link
they a full of sh*t head trolls
Or maybe  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/22/2018 9:13 am : link
Making chicken salad out of Chicken shit w Keenum and that crappy offense finally caught up w them?

One can question his game plan yesterday but his resume compared
To McAdoo is trolling and unprofessional. Or in plain terms he's being a colossal Shit stirring asshole
The Vikings scored 382 pts this season  
giants#1 : 1/22/2018 9:14 am : link
the Giants 246 pts. That's 50% more points than the Giants...

And before we blame injuries, the Giants still only scored 310 pts last season, which is 4.5 pts/game less than the Vikes this year.
I can't tell if Pat Leonard has mental deficiencies or is just a trol  
BestFeature : 1/22/2018 9:14 am : link
Both?
*Troll  
BestFeature : 1/22/2018 9:14 am : link
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Simple answer  
JonC : 1/22/2018 9:18 am : link
do not click.
RE: Or maybe  
ajr2456 : 1/22/2018 9:19 am : link
In comment 13800605 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Making chicken salad out of Chicken shit w Keenum and that crappy offense finally caught up w them?

One can question his game plan yesterday but his resume compared
To McAdoo is trolling and unprofessional. Or in plain terms he's being a colossal Shit stirring asshole


They also moved the ball and were on their way to going up 14-0 before the pick 6
you do NOT hire a HC simply because his specific unit played well  
LG in NYC : 1/22/2018 9:20 am : link
and especially not based on one game.

you hire a HC because they have evidenced they have leadership qualities, and can teach others and can communicate a message and build unity amongst the team (to name a few key factors).

I have no idea if Schurmer is that guy but I do know yesterday's game doesn't disqualify him.
He makes Vacchiano look awesome in comparison  
Greg from LI : 1/22/2018 9:20 am : link
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You’d think Ralph would be...  
Ryan : 1/22/2018 9:26 am : link
....a cautionary tale for him. Taking the shit stirrer role to try to get one of the big networks to notice before the rag industry implodes. Now you’d barely know he still covers the team.
He's horrible.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2018 9:29 am : link
Amazing but Ralph V looks good in hindsight.
Gary Meyers must be so proud  
Jay on the Island : 1/22/2018 9:29 am : link
Delete this thread don't drive traffic to this fools article.
He's a twit  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/22/2018 9:29 am : link
and I think he's a bad influence on the beat too. He loves examining raw nerves, boasts about it too.
Stop clicking on these articles.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/22/2018 9:30 am : link
It's how these writers are measured.
RE: The Vikings scored 382 pts this season  
The_Boss : 1/22/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 13800611 giants#1 said:
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the Giants 246 pts. That's 50% more points than the Giants...

And before we blame injuries, the Giants still only scored 310 pts last season, which is 4.5 pts/game less than the Vikes this year.


It’s not 50% more. It’s more like 35%
i think the daily news was  
sundayatone : 1/22/2018 9:42 am : link
recently purchased for a dollar.
The stupid  
jeff57 : 1/22/2018 9:43 am : link
The stupid.
As someone above mentioned,  
Keith : 1/22/2018 9:43 am : link
the Daily News needs to go away. They are trolls in every aspect of the word.

DELETE THIS AND START IT OVER WITHOUT A LINK. STOP GIVING THIS GUY CLICKS.
Here is the problem...  
EricJ : 1/22/2018 9:43 am : link
many of these beat writers have an education in journalism and not in football. They are measured on their numbers. Unfortunately, since their football acumen is low, they are unable to write quality pieces. They are nothing more than dirt diggers who would also fit right in as political pundits.

Bottom line, they do not know enough about the game to ask new/innovative questions that are good football X's and O's type of questions.

I can guarantee you this. If I was a beat writer, I would not ask a single question that was tied to team "drama". During the week when Geno was going to start vs Eli... when everyone else was asking the questions about "when did you tell Eli?" "what was Eli's reaction?". My questions would have been about how the offensive game was going to be called with Geno. Will we throw in a few plays that uses Geno's mobility? etc etc
The guys are all clowns  
ZogZerg : 1/22/2018 9:47 am : link
They sound like some of the posters on BBI...
RE: The guys are all clowns  
ajr2456 : 1/22/2018 9:48 am : link
In comment 13800710 ZogZerg said:
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They sound like some of the posters on BBI...


There is already a thread questioning Shurmur lol
That is weird in the same way  
Mike from Ohio : 1/22/2018 10:11 am : link
that Miami beat the Patriots in December, but the Patriots went to the playoffs but Miami didn't. It shows the author doesn't understand football and reasons like a child.
Hard to believe he's paid money  
moespree : 1/22/2018 10:15 am : link
To write that.
Pair that with Meyers column yesterday, which stated that  
Tom in NY : 1/22/2018 10:20 am : link
..and I paraphrase:

"My source that told me Patricia wanted the Giants and he was their first choice, confirmed to me that this is correct. Patricia turned it down due to some disfunction in the organization, and how Shurmur is their 3rd choice and should be questioned from the outset."

Gee Gary, your source that turned out to be wrong confirmed the same incorrect information as being correct?

Others have reported Patricia decided he did not want to deal with the NY media as it does not fit his personality...and oh, by the way, his good friend is the GM of the Lions. Let's just not let facts get in the way.

Unless your..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/22/2018 10:23 am : link
guy is on the team that wins the SB, chances are his last game is going to be a clunker.

Leonard is a fucking dumpster fire.
Should have..  
nzyme : 1/22/2018 10:26 am : link
Gone after Patricia with everything they had!!!!
RE: Pair that with Meyers column yesterday, which stated that  
montanagiant : 1/22/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13800783 Tom in NY said:
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..and I paraphrase:

"My source that told me Patricia wanted the Giants and he was their first choice, confirmed to me that this is correct. Patricia turned it down due to some disfunction in the organization, and how Shurmur is their 3rd choice and should be questioned from the outset."

Gee Gary, your source that turned out to be wrong confirmed the same incorrect information as being correct?

Others have reported Patricia decided he did not want to deal with the NY media as it does not fit his personality...and oh, by the way, his good friend is the GM of the Lions. Let's just not let facts get in the way.

Typical Meyers, He gets proven wrong on his first scope so he then makes up some BS story again to cover his ass and make it look like he was actually right.

Such a fucking hack
lol Leonard should come onto BBI  
micky : 1/22/2018 10:45 am : link
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RE: RE: The Vikings scored 382 pts this season  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/22/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13800695 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13800611 giants#1 said:


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the Giants 246 pts. That's 50% more points than the Giants...

And before we blame injuries, the Giants still only scored 310 pts last season, which is 4.5 pts/game less than the Vikes this year.



It’s not 50% more. It’s more like 35%

382 is 55% more than 246.
RE: RE: Pair that with Meyers column yesterday, which stated that  
montanagiant : 1/22/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 13800861 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13800783 Tom in NY said:


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..and I paraphrase:

"My source that told me Patricia wanted the Giants and he was their first choice, confirmed to me that this is correct. Patricia turned it down due to some disfunction in the organization, and how Shurmur is their 3rd choice and should be questioned from the outset."

Gee Gary, your source that turned out to be wrong confirmed the same incorrect information as being correct?

Others have reported Patricia decided he did not want to deal with the NY media as it does not fit his personality...and oh, by the way, his good friend is the GM of the Lions. Let's just not let facts get in the way.



Typical Meyers, He gets proven wrong on his first scope so he then makes up some BS story again to cover his ass and make it look like he was actually right.

Such a fucking hack

"Scoop" not scope
Pat Leonard = Slade  
TommytheElephant : 1/22/2018 10:57 am : link
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arcarsenal : 1/22/2018 12:07 pm : link
This is "I don't understand a single fucking thing about football" logic.

Leonard is a clown.
The key phrase there is  
Section331 : 1/22/2018 12:10 pm : link
“AFTER McAdoo was fired”. Does this guy even read what he writes? Maybe we should have hired Sullivan as HC.

And anybody who uses single game results to evaluate a coach is an idiot.
Shurmur  
Giantslifer : 1/22/2018 12:12 pm : link
If Giants were on fence with Shurmur, yesterday would have knocked him off.
REALLY? 7 points.?
He proved he is just another "coordinator". NO originality, creativity or desire.
Looks like Giants need to wait until after Super Bowl
I saw the headline this morning and refused to click to read the  
Ryan in Albany : 1/22/2018 12:12 pm : link
article.

Pat Leonard is a big bitch.
Pat Leonard is literally the worst.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/22/2018 12:25 pm : link
If this article doesn't somehow bring up Odell Beckham and the boat trip, it will be a first.
Pat Leonard  
B in ALB : 1/22/2018 12:28 pm : link
Is a toilet stain.
RE: Shurmur  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/22/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13801080 Giantslifer said:
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If Giants were on fence with Shurmur, yesterday would have knocked him off.
REALLY? 7 points.?
He proved he is just another "coordinator". NO originality, creativity or desire.
Looks like Giants need to wait until after Super Bowl


Again, only an idiot evaluates a coach based on one game.
RE: i think the daily news was  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/22/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13800696 sundayatone said:
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recently purchased for a dollar.


They over paid
RE: Here is the problem...  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 1/22/2018 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13800701 EricJ said:
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many of these beat writers have an education in journalism and not in football. They are measured on their numbers. Unfortunately, since their football acumen is low, they are unable to write quality pieces. They are nothing more than dirt diggers who would also fit right in as political pundits.

Bottom line, they do not know enough about the game to ask new/innovative questions that are good football X's and O's type of questions.

I can guarantee you this. If I was a beat writer, I would not ask a single question that was tied to team "drama". During the week when Geno was going to start vs Eli... when everyone else was asking the questions about "when did you tell Eli?" "what was Eli's reaction?". My questions would have been about how the offensive game was going to be called with Geno. Will we throw in a few plays that uses Geno's mobility? etc etc


Coaches are pretty uptight about tipping their hand that way, so all the writers are left with is team drama.
RE: RE: Shurmur  
Giantslifer : 1/22/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13801147 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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In comment 13801080 Giantslifer said:


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If Giants were on fence with Shurmur, yesterday would have knocked him off.
REALLY? 7 points.?
He proved he is just another "coordinator". NO originality, creativity or desire.
Looks like Giants need to wait until after Super Bowl



Again, only an idiot evaluates a coach based on one game.

Never heard of him before 2 months ago
What I an saying is - Shurmur has not exactly set the NFL on fire, Can anyone in here name me a "Shurmur" WOW moment?
He seems to be an adequate OC but Didn't Giants just fire that guy?
came up small in his big moment
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur  
Simms11 : 1/22/2018 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13801363 Giantslifer said:
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In comment 13801147 LakeGeorgeGiant said:


Quote:


In comment 13801080 Giantslifer said:


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If Giants were on fence with Shurmur, yesterday would have knocked him off.
REALLY? 7 points.?
He proved he is just another "coordinator". NO originality, creativity or desire.
Looks like Giants need to wait until after Super Bowl



Again, only an idiot evaluates a coach based on one game.


Never heard of him before 2 months ago
What I an saying is - Shurmur has not exactly set the NFL on fire, Can anyone in here name me a "Shurmur" WOW moment?
He seems to be an adequate OC but Didn't Giants just fire that guy?
came up small in his big moment


This can't be a serious post! All the trolls are coming out! WTF
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/22/2018 2:44 pm : link
this is Gold!!
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Never heard of him before 2 months ago


Being proud of being a dumbass by not knowing somebody is a fantastic look.
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur  
Section331 : 1/22/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13801363 Giantslifer said:
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Never heard of him before 2 months ago
What I an saying is - Shurmur has not exactly set the NFL on fire, Can anyone in here name me a "Shurmur" WOW moment?
He seems to be an adequate OC but Didn't Giants just fire that guy?
came up small in his big moment


You never heard of Pat Shurmer until 2 months ago? With all due respect, if you don’t know a guy who was an NFL HC for 2years, you don’t follow it all that closely.

As far as accomplishments, I’d say winning 13 games and getting to the NFCCG with a journeyman QB is quite an accomplishment, but what do I know?
The guy beat us in a game 2 years ago, but someone never heard of him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/22/2018 2:53 pm : link
I don't know what to say.
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