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NFT: Cutting the Cable TV Cord: A Success Story

jpennyva : 1/25/2018 1:46 pm
My husband and I had been considering getting rid of cable for awhile and we finally took the plunge. I had appreciated other BBIers posts on this subject in the past so I thought I would share about our experience. First, there is no doubt that geographical location and what cable/internet options are available to you make a HUGE difference. I live in the Washington, DC, area and Verizon and Cox are the only two options we have for both cable and internet in our neighborhood. We were paying Verizon $146/month for HD/DVR (the DVR/cable box alone was $15/mo) and Internet service (we ditched the landline phone line a couple of years ago). This is especially true because there were so many channels that we never watched anyway. We ordered a 1byone 85 Mile Digital Amplified HDTV Roof Antenna for $50 from Amazon. Luckily for us, our townhouse is situated where the back of the house (where we were allowed to install the antenna per our HOA guidelines) was exactly where we needed to install and direct the antenna (due north) in order to receive the most over-the-air channels (doing some research on the best antenna placement was also key). The antenna picks up over 80 channels (that is not a typo), including ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS and all of their sub-channels. We even get many Baltimore stations. The picture for most of them is fantastic - great HD quality. Our TV (an LG HDTV) also has a live TV guide similar to what we had with the cable box. We still get internet service from Verizon (50 mps - we don't need more - it's just the two of us and my 8 yo stepson part of the time) for $50/month and we did subscribe to an additional channel service. After much research between Sling TV, Hulu’s channel service, YouTube TV, and DirecTVNow, we decided to go with DirecTVNow which offered the most additional channels we wanted (TNT, TBS, AMC, HLN, ESPN, etc.) at a cost point we were comfortable with but they do offer several levels of channels. The antenna was also key here, though, because many channel services do NOT offer CBS since CBS has their own streaming service. Even with paying for DirecTVNow, we are still saving over $60 per month. The ONLY thing I will miss from cable TV is not being able to watch Nationals games and it really gripes me that they aren’t available in the local market over-the-air, nor can you subscribe to MLB TV to see them because you can’t watch in-market games from that platform. Many of you would likely have the same issue with Yankees/Mets as well as NBA/NHL teams. Sports programming was the one sticking issue with me in our decision to cut cable (at least we do get ESPN - I rarely watched the NFL network) but I figured I will get used to it and I can at least listen to Nationals games on the radio. I was limited to what Giants games I would get before anyway (though I am hoping that the Baltimore stations might give me an extra game or two). Since we’ve had a good experience, I thought I would share it. Even though we live near DC, I had been skeptical about how many over-the-air stations we'd get and was very pleasantly surprised. Happy cord cutting!
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My  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2018 2:00 pm : link
wife took the lead on this a couple of years ago. We pay a fraction of what we used to and stream everything we need. I thought it would be a problem. Now I regret not doing it earlier.
i think you can pay for  
spike : 1/25/2018 2:03 pm : link
MLB tv service and get all the baseball games you want to watch.
RE: i think you can pay for  
Matt M. : 1/25/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13806360 spike said:
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MLB tv service and get all the baseball games you want to watch.
I'm not positive, but I believe she is correct. I think you get everything but your in-market games.
Giants  
bigblue12 : 1/25/2018 2:08 pm : link
How do you watch Giants games?
You can fool  
Pete in MD : 1/25/2018 2:13 pm : link
MLB TV using a VPN. The link explains it all.
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last I looked into this in NY  
Enzo : 1/25/2018 2:13 pm : link
I wouldn't be able to get MSG (Knicks/Rangers) and YES if I cut the cord. Is that still the case?
RE: i think you can pay for  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13806360 spike said:
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MLB tv service and get all the baseball games you want to watch.


I wish this were the case but they still block you from watching games in your own market but if anyone has any ideas of how to get around this, I'd appreciate it. I thought about having my NY-based sister buy the subscription but then read elsewhere about someone else who tried this and said they were still blocked because it was based on the internet location, not the billing address of the subscriber. *sigh*
enzo  
LG in NYC : 1/25/2018 2:14 pm : link
I think Sling TV offers YES.
Pete - Thanks!  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 2:16 pm : link
I will definitely check out that link. I know that not being able to get local sports channels for all the major sports is one of the biggest reasons a lot of people DON'T cut the cord, and I do believe that includes YES and MSG in NY.
RE: Giants  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13806371 bigblue12 said:
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How do you watch Giants games?


I subscribed to the version of NFL Sunday Ticket where you could watch the game after it was over and listen to the audio of it live. Unfortunately, it was a bit of wasted money this past season as I didn't use it again after week 3 but hope springs eternal for next year. And there are usually at least four games I can watch live each year - the games against the Skins as well as the times they play in prime time.
RE: Giants  
terz22 : 1/25/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13806371 bigblue12 said:
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How do you watch Giants games?


I too would like to know this
I did this in 2010  
Go Terps : 1/25/2018 2:26 pm : link
Will never go back.
Direct Now has MSG  
Dave on the UWS : 1/25/2018 2:28 pm : link
and Sling has YES network. I have the latter since Sept. Like Eric wish I had done it earlier.
question on these antennaes  
LG in NYC : 1/25/2018 2:29 pm : link
do you need a different antenna for each TV in the house?

I was looking at the Mohu indoor antennas and some of these look pretty cool, but I cannot tell if they (or the one mentioned in the opening post) can address all of the TV's in the house or just 1 at a time.
RE: enzo  
Jim in Tampa : 1/25/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13806398 LG in NYC said:
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I think Sling TV offers YES.


Sling and similar providers offer the local sports channel. So I get Sun or some other sports station that carries the Rays here in Tampa and NYers who subscribe to Sling get YES.
RE: question on these antennaes  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13806429 LG in NYC said:
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do you need a different antenna for each TV in the house?

I was looking at the Mohu indoor antennas and some of these look pretty cool, but I cannot tell if they (or the one mentioned in the opening post) can address all of the TV's in the house or just 1 at a time.


We didn't have a Mohu but rather a HomeWorx - a small, flat indoor antenna for EACH of the other two TVs in the house and it only picks up about 10 channels and not all of the ones we wanted. I believe you could split the cord from the roof antenna and wire it to other TVs in the house but we have not taken that step yet (though are considering it). We did get a flat coaxial cable cord so that we could run it through our sliding glass door (or window in some other cases). The antenna we got also notes that it could be mounted in an attic rather than outside on a roof but I don't know how that might affect the number of channels that are picked up. I believe, but am not certain, that there may be a way to hook the antenna up to the outside cable box so that it runs to all of the cable outlets but my husband wasn't comfortable trying that route. But perhaps someone else can share if that's been successful for them.
That's awesome congrats  
DennyInDenville : 1/25/2018 2:40 pm : link
I would do the same but thankfully in my town I get 200 Mbps internet, 2 multi room dvr boxes, hbo shotime Cinemax, Netflix espn NFL network etc etc for under $100 per month (advertised as $69.99 but comes out to mid 90s with the second box and taxes )
RE: RE: question on these antennaes  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/25/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13806446 jpennyva said:
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In comment 13806429 LG in NYC said:


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do you need a different antenna for each TV in the house?

I was looking at the Mohu indoor antennas and some of these look pretty cool, but I cannot tell if they (or the one mentioned in the opening post) can address all of the TV's in the house or just 1 at a time.



We didn't have a Mohu but rather a HomeWorx - a small, flat indoor antenna for EACH of the other two TVs in the house and it only picks up about 10 channels and not all of the ones we wanted. I believe you could split the cord from the roof antenna and wire it to other TVs in the house but we have not taken that step yet (though are considering it). We did get a flat coaxial cable cord so that we could run it through our sliding glass door (or window in some other cases). The antenna we got also notes that it could be mounted in an attic rather than outside on a roof but I don't know how that might affect the number of channels that are picked up. I believe, but am not certain, that there may be a way to hook the antenna up to the outside cable box so that it runs to all of the cable outlets but my husband wasn't comfortable trying that route. But perhaps someone else can share if that's been successful for them.


You could really just use 1 antenna and then get a coaxe signal booster and slit the feed. The only issue with that is getting the wire to all the locations. It can be done with 1 antenna with the right will power.
RE: That's awesome congrats  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/25/2018 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13806448 DennyInDenville said:
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I would do the same but thankfully in my town I get 200 Mbps internet, 2 multi room dvr boxes, hbo shotime Cinemax, Netflix espn NFL network etc etc for under $100 per month (advertised as $69.99 but comes out to mid 90s with the second box and taxes )


What provider?
RE: Direct Now has MSG  
Enzo : 1/25/2018 2:42 pm : link
In comment 13806427 Dave on the UWS said:
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and Sling has YES network. I have the latter since Sept. Like Eric wish I had done it earlier.

regarding MSG, apparently that's not the case.
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still doesn't seem worth it to me  
UConn4523 : 1/25/2018 2:48 pm : link
I pay around $130 for 2 DVR's, HBO/Showtime, and pretty much every other channel with 200mb internet. To cut the cord and still get my fix of content I'd maybe save $20 per month. I casually watch and flip too much for it to be worth it. Glad other have success with it though.
RE: Giants  
djm : 1/25/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13806371 bigblue12 said:
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How do you watch Giants games?


Giants games aren't really a concern with cord cutting because you can watch them on fox. If you weren't getting Giants games before cord cutting you won't care after cord cutting.

My concern is how do I watch Yankees rangers and Knicks games if I cut the cord? I live in jersey. And I'd have to find a way to stream NFL network but I'm sure that's easy.
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vonritz : 1/25/2018 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13806395 jpennyva said:
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MLB tv service and get all the baseball games you want to watch.



I wish this were the case but they still block you from watching games in your own market but if anyone has any ideas of how to get around this, I'd appreciate it. I thought about having my NY-based sister buy the subscription but then read elsewhere about someone else who tried this and said they were still blocked because it was based on the internet location, not the billing address of the subscriber. *sigh*


Get a VPN service like Torguard or PureVPN, choose an out of state VPN, and it will work. I do this with NHL streaming. Also, you should use a VPN anyway for secure browsing
RE: still doesn't seem worth it to me  
djm : 1/25/2018 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13806466 UConn4523 said:
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I pay around $130 for 2 DVR's, HBO/Showtime, and pretty much every other channel with 200mb internet. To cut the cord and still get my fix of content I'd maybe save $20 per month. I casually watch and flip too much for it to be worth it. Glad other have success with it though.


This seems to be my take as well. What I might do is just cut down on the premium fios channels and save money there.
RE: still doesn't seem worth it to me  
Mr. Nickels : 1/25/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13806466 UConn4523 said:
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I pay around $130 for 2 DVR's, HBO/Showtime, and pretty much every other channel with 200mb internet. To cut the cord and still get my fix of content I'd maybe save $20 per month. I casually watch and flip too much for it to be worth it. Glad other have success with it though.


That's how i felt but i have to do the math. Problem is one service has a channel I need and one doesn't. Direct TV Now doesn't have NFL network and Redzone so I would have to get Sling just for that. Waiting to see what Verizon's will look like. If one would just have everything I want in one package that would be ideal. It's so stupid though. With fios i get my internet and cable the same way. Could cut the middle man and just offer more diverse cable packages..
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Mr. Nickels : 1/25/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13806479 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 13806466 UConn4523 said:


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I pay around $130 for 2 DVR's, HBO/Showtime, and pretty much every other channel with 200mb internet. To cut the cord and still get my fix of content I'd maybe save $20 per month. I casually watch and flip too much for it to be worth it. Glad other have success with it though.



That's how i felt but i have to do the math. Problem is one service has a channel I need and one doesn't. Direct TV Now doesn't have NFL network and Redzone so I would have to get Sling just for that. Waiting to see what Verizon's will look like. If one would just have everything I want in one package that would be ideal. It's so stupid though. With fios i get my internet and cable the same way. Could cut the middle man and just offer more diverse cable packages..


Although i definitely don't flip as much I only watch a couple channels really but any series I follow like on FX AMC USA etc
Direct TV Now  
B in ALB : 1/25/2018 3:01 pm : link
Has both YES and MSG in NY. I've been trying it the last week or so. Some streaming issues and having to use my phone as the remote. Plus they haven't figured out the dvr option yet.
everytime i think about doing this  
LG in NYC : 1/25/2018 3:03 pm : link
i come to same conclusion as UConn... it isn't worth the effort.

we have Verizon Fios TV and interent. I think we pay about $175/month but that includes 3 TV's, HD, DVR plus SHO/HBO. no worries about getting local channels, or ESPN, or NFL Net... all the kids get their shows... and there is nothing we want to watch that we can't get.
(Plus we have Netflix)

if I cancel that and start with an antenna, then start adding various streaming services... I assume my internet only bill will go up... I figure I might save about $25-30/month. Nothing to sneeze at but not if it creates a whole host of new problems/inconveniences.
RE: Direct TV Now  
Mr. Nickels : 1/25/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13806486 B in ALB said:
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Has both YES and MSG in NY. I've been trying it the last week or so. Some streaming issues and having to use my phone as the remote. Plus they haven't figured out the dvr option yet.


Ugh I would not want to use my phone as remote and need dvr. You can't use Direct tv now with a Roku?
It depends on the situation  
Stan in LA : 1/25/2018 3:08 pm : link
I get Direct TV for under $90 with premium channels and FREE Sunday Ticket with a DirectTV/Tivo DVR. I've been a customer since 1999 so I can get great deals without a hassle. Cable will not let long time customers go so there are many offers to be had. Just have to call. Plus I am to used to my recording habits to have to change to Mediasonic, Tablo, Plex etc. Yuck.

RE: Direct TV Now  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13806486 B in ALB said:
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Has both YES and MSG in NY. I've been trying it the last week or so. Some streaming issues and having to use my phone as the remote. Plus they haven't figured out the dvr option yet.


It is my understanding that DirecTVNow is beta testing a cloud DVR system so hopefully that will be an option soon.

For those of you getting great cable deals - that's awesome. I wasn't able to negotiate quite that good a deal even with threatening to cancel. It would be wonderful to be able to get a truly ala carte set up where you can get only those channels you want (and every channel you want) but I am not holding my breath.
It's  
AcidTest : 1/25/2018 3:11 pm : link
probably not worth it for me.

Verizon wants me to sign a two year deal for phone, TV, and 50 mbps Internet for $116 a month. (I don't have a cell phone.) They will also give me a $100 gift card, and I build up points that I can redeem for free movies and other stuff. They also offer a lot of free movies, and are giving me free HBO right now through the end of February (started in December).

I live in a condo, and can't put anything on a roof. I could put a Dish on my balcony, but it faces east, and I think that needs to be south. The view is also not unobstructed.
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jpennyva : 1/25/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13806492 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 13806486 B in ALB said:


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Has both YES and MSG in NY. I've been trying it the last week or so. Some streaming issues and having to use my phone as the remote. Plus they haven't figured out the dvr option yet.



Ugh I would not want to use my phone as remote and need dvr. You can't use Direct tv now with a Roku?


We use DirecTVNow with a Roku but only certain Rokus have access to the DTVN app. We've only had it for just about a month, though and the only problem we've had is a very occasional buffering issue that occurs usually at the height of streaming popularity.
I'm all for saving, but we have a comfort zone on what we pay  
aimrocky : 1/25/2018 3:25 pm : link
for Cable. I don't splurge on phone service or subscriptions to Netflix, Hulu, etc, so that money gets rolled into what I can comfortably spend on cable service. The majority of my TV watching are live sports, sitcoms, re-runs or channel surfing.

This month, my Frontier bill jumped $60 because my new customer discount ran out. For the first time since Frontier purchased U-Verse, I actually had a positive customer service experience. I called complaining about the increase and proposed the idea of shutting the service down for a day, putting it in my wife's name and re-opening the next day with new customer pricing. The rep told me there's no need to do that, and they re-applied the new customer pricing again, and it's actually cheaper than what it was before.

Because I want every sports channel possible, and Frontier strategically spreads them across 5 or 6 packages, I have to have the highest package. My bill definitely comes in above what some of you are paying, but it's in our comfort zone due not paying for other services that are currently popular.

Plus, my TV runs through an AVR and I have found that streaming services broadcast TV in Stereo sound, when cable will broadcast in Dolby Digital/Dolby Surround. The sound difference between the two is substantial.
We cut the cord last year  
Modus Operandi : 1/25/2018 3:27 pm : link
We stream Netflix, Amazon over kodi and PlayStation and get some local channels via an antenna (for news).

Run into two issues:

A) Can't find a way to reliably watch the Giants. The Kodi Sportdevil add-on is notoriously unreliable and never seems to work anymore when the game is on. So I've only been able to watch the next day via the NFL app or at a local sports bar in the Bay when the 9ers and Raiders aren't on at the same time.

B) In December, we received a letter from the ISP (Optimum) stating that we have gone over allowable band with and will be charged more if it happens again. This is unusual since although we cut the cable, we have always streamed about as much and there are no extra devices.

We were previously paying about $150 p/m for cable and internet. Cutting cable shaved roughly $80 off the bill, but if they're going to start charging more now that we've cut cable, we are going to have to find another provider.

Any ideas on game streams sans SportDevil?
dos anyone have the website that tells you which channels  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/25/2018 3:28 pm : link
you get with an antenna?
I  
AcidTest : 1/25/2018 3:29 pm : link
also don't have a DVR.
I also would get super pissed  
UConn4523 : 1/25/2018 3:33 pm : link
if the internet goes out during a live event. That's also a reason why I won't be cord cutting anytime soon.

All of these services are going to increase in time as well so I don't really know how popular cord cutting will be in 5 years. Netflix will be $20/$25 per month, when Disney has their Instant service (pulling content from Netflix) they will charge the same amount. That's $40/$50 right there before internet costs which are $60+ for a good speed. Just seems like a giant headache.
RE: dos anyone have the website that tells you which channels  
jpennyva : 1/25/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13806539 GMAN4LIFE said:
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you get with an antenna?


This is the site I used: http://www.tvfool.com/
RE: I also would get super pissed  
Modus Operandi : 1/25/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13806548 UConn4523 said:
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if the internet goes out during a live event. That's also a reason why I won't be cord cutting anytime soon.

All of these services are going to increase in time as well so I don't really know how popular cord cutting will be in 5 years. Netflix will be $20/$25 per month, when Disney has their Instant service (pulling content from Netflix) they will charge the same amount. That's $40/$50 right there before internet costs which are $60+ for a good speed. Just seems like a giant headache.


In the very least, those whi have cut the cord finally get ala carte, something everyone has been clammoring for.

You dont watch Disney? Ok. Don't get it. Don't need HBO or whatever? No problem.
I get that completely  
UConn4523 : 1/25/2018 3:41 pm : link
but prices on everything will be increasing. I can see internet slowly creeping to the $100 month threshold for enough speed/bandwith. Then you are choosing a few different a la carte packages you that like and will still find those at $10-$20 a pop.

It will work for some people. For those that really watch a lot of TV and movies or have kids that love what Netflix/Disney have to offer, cutting the cord doesn't seem like it will do much.
RE: I also would get super pissed  
giants#1 : 1/25/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13806548 UConn4523 said:
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if the internet goes out during a live event. That's also a reason why I won't be cord cutting anytime soon.

All of these services are going to increase in time as well so I don't really know how popular cord cutting will be in 5 years. Netflix will be $20/$25 per month, when Disney has their Instant service (pulling content from Netflix) they will charge the same amount. That's $40/$50 right there before internet costs which are $60+ for a good speed. Just seems like a giant headache.


Most people are probably buying internet in addition to cable/satellite anyway, so it's not an "extra" $60 for that anyway.
RE: Giants  
Scyber : 1/25/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13806371 bigblue12 said:
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How do you watch Giants games?


Antenna if its broadcast in your local market.
it is if you are cutting the cord  
UConn4523 : 1/25/2018 3:51 pm : link
you are no longer getting a package discount so you are likely paying full price for internet. Add in a couple services and you are already at $100 per month.
thanks for that tvfool  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/25/2018 3:52 pm : link
link -- I'm screwed no matter what I do -- we live in the boonies and the signal is extremely weak even for CBS, NBC and ABC

I'd have to build what amounts to a cell tower to gather in a very weak signal for the three major stations -- and that's pretty much all I'd get

OH well -- this place makes up for that in so many other ways
It doesn’t sound like a practical solution for most  
Rover : 1/25/2018 3:55 pm : link
I watch the basic channels+football/baseball//hockey along with Homeland/Bill Mahrer/BCS/Silicon Valley and live in apartment. Don’t know how I’d get around.
I cut the cord as well over a year ago  
Daniel in Kentucky : 1/25/2018 4:36 pm : link
No regrets.

I have an XBoxone and stream everything I need to see.
I use some of my friends subscriptions and my parents directv login and share my subscriptions with them - I pay less than $40 per month.
Services I currently use include Hulu, Amazon Prime, Netflix, HBO, Showtime, CBS, ABC, FOX, NFL network, etc...

No regrets
too lazy  
oghwga : 1/25/2018 4:52 pm : link
Just my wife and I and we have 5 TV's and between Fios, cell service (5 phones unlimited data), internet and a home phone I probably pay $450 month plus we have Netflix AND Amazon. (Use Amazon prime for shipping, free TV is just a bonus.)

We have every single possible channel and we probably watch around 5 or 6 of them. I love TV. Have a full DVR of stuff I'll never get to. Probably watch two hours a day during the winter when we're too lazy to go out in the cold. I pay for the convenience to watch what I want when I want it. Cutting back a bit might save me $50 a month but that hardly seems worth it. We'd both rather cuddle up and watch something on the big screen than go to the movies any day so it probably works out about even.

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section125 : 1/25/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13806368 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13806360 spike said:


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MLB tv service and get all the baseball games you want to watch.

I'm not positive, but I believe she is correct. I think you get everything but your in-market games.


You are correct. Must be out of market and cannot be on FOX, ESPN or local stations...
Internet speed needed to stream stuff  
MBavaro : 1/25/2018 5:00 pm : link
+ basic HD cable package= $95 per month.

Internet only= $85 per month.

It's just not worth it for me, and that pisses me off even more.

ps. My only internet option is Comcast.
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