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McDaniels Passes On Colts

Jon in NYC : 2/6/2018 7:35 pm
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Stunner: Patriots OC Josh McDaniels has decided NOT to accept Colts HC job and will remain with New England, sources told ESPN.
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This is hysterical  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 8:23 pm : link
Michael Lombardi

Colts spent an hour on the phone with McDaniels working on staff and sending slips in for potential assistant coaches hires. Stunning

8:01 PM - Feb 6, 2018
Spags or Quinn  
SHO'NUFF : 2/6/2018 8:25 pm : link
new Colts coach.
thank god this didn't happen to us  
OdellBeckhamJr : 2/6/2018 8:25 pm : link
I love the drama
RE: Guess we know who Gettleman was talking about  
Hades07 : 2/6/2018 8:26 pm : link
In comment 13824217 Rflairr said:
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. lol. Unreal
which comment are you referring to?
McDaniels is toxic at this point  
Dave in PA : 2/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
He better inherit that Patriots HC job because he may never get another interview outside that organization again
From Mike Garafolo just now on the NFL Network  
JohnF : 2/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
The assistant coaches for the Colts were all signed. So McDaniels didn't just screw the Colts, he just left his potential assistants high and dry.

Oh, and who would want to go to Indy now after this (unless Indy fires assistants they just hired?) Thank G-d this clown didn't get the Giants job!!!
HC In Waiting  
TheVette : 2/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
Confirms that Belichick is either going to resign, or has notified Kraft that 2018 will be it for him when his contract ends.

Good move by the Pats - they clearly did not want to lose both coordinators and BB within a 1 year period. Colts also benefit from this - clearly McDaniels was not really into the job, so why hire a guy who is not fully invested.
Of course  
Defenderdawg : 2/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
Capt. Andrew Luck (@CaptAndrewLuck)
2/6/18, 8:00 PM
Dearest mother
I write with most distressful news. The men have been hoodwinked. The deserter McDaniels is on the lamb, likely headed toward New England, my best scouts report. Was this a ploy to merely spy? We shall never know. Irritating.
Andrew
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arcarsenal : 2/6/2018 8:28 pm : link
He better have something in writing that says he's assured the NE job when Bill finishes up because no one else is going to want to interview him anytime soon.
RE: This would have been an interesting thread  
TheVette : 2/6/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13824244 JohnF said:
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had he pulled this on the Maras...


Just never seemed that the Giants and McDaniels ever made it clear there was a match. Aside from the obligatory interview - it just didn't feel like either was pining for the other.
Kraft is something else. Sneaky little B.  
prdave73 : 2/6/2018 8:30 pm : link
I really want to know what he offered him to stay?? It really sounds like McDaniels wanted to take the job but Kraft and BB knew this would be detrimental to the offense and must of offered a boat load of money & incentives??
RE: This is hysterical  
jeff57 : 2/6/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13824297 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Michael Lombardi

Colts spent an hour on the phone with McDaniels working on staff and sending slips in for potential assistant coaches hires. Stunning

8:01 PM - Feb 6, 2018


Patriots are a dick organization. From the top down.
Garafolo  
section125 : 2/6/2018 8:30 pm : link
reporting same via @WillieMcGinist.....
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TheVette : 2/6/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13824309 arcarsenal said:
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He better have something in writing that says he's assured the NE job when Bill finishes up because no one else is going to want to interview him anytime soon.


Yea - he pretty much punted any chance to be seriously considered by anyone else for a HC job.
RE: Part of me is waiting to hear an Irsay rant  
Joey in VA : 2/6/2018 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13824260 robbieballs2003 said:
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Assuming he's a) vertical and b) coherent.
Reiss is a Pats beat guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 8:31 pm : link
Mike Reiss

Source close to situation says clarity on Bill Belichick's status in New England (Belichick is locked in to coach Patriots in 2018) and stability for family among top factors for Josh McDaniels' sudden change.
What an asshole  
UberAlias : 2/6/2018 8:32 pm : link
Glad he didnt come here.
RE: Kraft is something else. Sneaky little B.  
TheVette : 2/6/2018 8:32 pm : link
In comment 13824312 prdave73 said:
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I really want to know what he offered him to stay?? It really sounds like McDaniels wanted to take the job but Kraft and BB knew this would be detrimental to the offense and must of offered a boat load of money & incentives??


Kraft is a total scumbag. A month after his wife died, he was seen publicly running around with some 25 year old model.
RE: I also wonder if Kraft upped his retention offer  
jlukes : 2/6/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13824265 MetsAreBack said:
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because of deflategate revenge or whatever


There are several reports on twitter that this is absolutely a big part of this
Talk about embarrassing moments for a franchise  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 8:35 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 2/6/2018 8:36 pm : link
No doubt in my mind Kraft had a large hand in this.

I hadn't quite realized how slimy he was until I watched the Two Bill's 30 for 30.

Kraft is a fucking snake.
Asshole move  
ghost718 : 2/6/2018 8:38 pm : link
Have to think Belichick is just about done if he's willing to do this.
Reiss is like a Kraft son from all I've heard.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
I'll take his word.
Kraft and McDaniels are both  
Chris684 : 2/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
assholes for pulling this stunt.

Id love to see BB walk away at this point leaving Kraft, McDaniels and Brady (at 40+ years old) to try to pull this thing together with no defense, possibly no Gronk and an overall very underwhelming roster.
shouldn't be surprised...  
fanofthejets : 2/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
You'd figure Belichick either retires this offseason or next. I don't see McDaniels wanting to sit around for two years. Too many other things can happen. Plus now with what he did to Indy the rest of the league sees him as an immature punk who has learned nothing from his tenure in Denver. Where else would he go? Who'd trust him? Can he even trust Belichick that he will walk away when he says he will?

McDaniels better have something ironclad in writing
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M.S. : 2/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13824326 arcarsenal said:
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No doubt in my mind Kraft had a large hand in this.

I hadn't quite realized how slimy he was until I watched the Two Bill's 30 for 30.

Kraft is a fucking snake.

He may be a "fucking snake," but I'd trade his record for John Mara's any day of the week.
Agree Arc..  
prdave73 : 2/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
Wow. Dick move for sure by Kraft. Why would a guy turn down a HC job offer? Also after he decided to take the job and news conference was scheduled for Wednesday?? smh.
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arcarsenal : 2/6/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13824335 M.S. said:
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In comment 13824326 arcarsenal said:


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No doubt in my mind Kraft had a large hand in this.

I hadn't quite realized how slimy he was until I watched the Two Bill's 30 for 30.

Kraft is a fucking snake.


He may be a "fucking snake," but I'd trade his record for John Mara's any day of the week.


Kraft and Mara aren't GM's, coaches, or players. Kraft would be nothing without Belichick.
RE: Agree Arc..  
halfback20 : 2/6/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13824336 prdave73 said:
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Wow. Dick move for sure by Kraft. Why would a guy turn down a HC job offer? Also after he decided to take the job and news conference was scheduled for Wednesday?? smh.


Indy hired some assistant coaches too. I'm sure McDaniels had input on those hires...
Watch it be Jeff Fisher  
montanagiant : 2/6/2018 8:44 pm : link
LMAO
RE: .  
Greg from LI : 2/6/2018 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13824326 arcarsenal said:
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No doubt in my mind Kraft had a large hand in this.

I hadn't quite realized how slimy he was until I watched the Two Bill's 30 for 30.

Kraft is a fucking snake.


This. One of the biggest takeaways I had from The Two Bills, and I said so on the thread the night it airs, was how much I dislike Bob Kraft because he's such an oily bastard
What separates Kraft from morons like Dan Snyder  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 8:45 pm : link
is that Kraft knows he's not a football guy and lets Belichick do whatever he needs to do. He just wants to be a hanger-on.
I really can't believe McDaniels would screw his would be assts  
Greg from LI : 2/6/2018 8:46 pm : link
Like that. I have to imagine that's going to make him very unpopular with his peers. Who is going to be willing to be on his staff now?
Assistants are staying  
bluepepper : 2/6/2018 8:50 pm : link
at least as of now per Schefter

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@AdamSchefter
Former Cowboys asst HC/LB coach Matt Eberflus already has signed to become Colts defensive coordinator and former Illinois D-line coach Mike Phair has signed to become Indys D-line coach - and both will stay with Colts, whoever the HC is, per source
I'd never trust McDaniels ever again.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/6/2018 8:51 pm : link
I don't think this works out long term for him.
Never wanted him, don't like him  
ZogZerg : 2/6/2018 8:52 pm : link
And now he proves what a scum bag he is.

Glad he "turned down" the Giants job...

LOL
RE: I'd never trust McDaniels ever again.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13824356 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don't think this works out long term for him.


He'll get the Patriots job, then watch as life around him crumbles without Belichick and Brady, and Kraft re-learns what losing feels like.
statement by Colts  
rasbutant : 2/6/2018 8:53 pm : link
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But what if the new HC doesn't want those guys?  
Greg from LI : 2/6/2018 8:53 pm : link
Are you going to make keeping them a condition of taking the job? How many candidates will shy away if they can't pick their own staff?
Wow,  
darren in pdx : 2/6/2018 8:54 pm : link
this is pretty much the thing that a lot of BBI was griping over happening to the Giants when every day a new 'top candidate' was named, but on a whole other level.
didn't want Giants going after McDaniels as  
bluepepper : 2/6/2018 8:54 pm : link
I worried he might stiff us in the end.

That said he ain't the first guy to do something like this including the Two Bills, Billy Donovan and Rollie Massimino. Didn't damage any of their careers as far as I know.
RE: Assistants are staying  
ThatLimerickGuy : 2/6/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13824352 bluepepper said:
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at least as of now per Schefter



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@AdamSchefter
Former Cowboys asst HC/LB coach Matt Eberflus already has signed to become Colts defensive coordinator and former Illinois D-line coach Mike Phair has signed to become Indys D-line coach - and both will stay with Colts, whoever the HC is, per source




Jesus Christ. Eberflus is just gonna have to become HC and get a new DC. What else can they do? Jeff Fisher? John Fox? Who is going to want to work with and rely on random guys?
The Colts hiring jeff fisher would be such a colts move  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 9:02 pm : link
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RE: But what if the new HC doesn't want those guys?  
bluepepper : 2/6/2018 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13824362 Greg from LI said:
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Are you going to make keeping them a condition of taking the job? How many candidates will shy away if they can't pick their own staff?

Probably, unless the assistants want to bail which is possible. As they say, there's only 32 of these jobs in the world so hard to turn down. Plus, teams have dictated assistant coaches before though usually because the guy's been there and they really like him. Billick having to retain Lewis when he took over the Ravens is one I recall. I'm sure there have been others. In fact I'd be shocked if Al Davis and Jerry Jones didn't dictate certain assistants for some of their HC hires.
I think the team has the right to release coaches from their contracts  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 9:08 pm : link
if they wanted to make a good faith gesture.
RE: Reiss is a Pats beat guy  
BestFeature : 2/6/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 13824318 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Mike Reiss

Source close to situation says clarity on Bill Belichick's status in New England (Belichick is locked in to coach Patriots in 2018) and stability for family among top factors for Josh McDaniels' sudden change.


So Belichick staying was a factor? He doesn't want to take over for him? I'm confused.
RE: RE: Reiss is a Pats beat guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13824385 BestFeature said:
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In comment 13824318 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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Mike Reiss

Source close to situation says clarity on Bill Belichick's status in New England (Belichick is locked in to coach Patriots in 2018) and stability for family among top factors for Josh McDaniels' sudden change.



So Belichick staying was a factor? He doesn't want to take over for him? I'm confused.


He DOES want to take over for him, and Kraft probably gave him a promise and a timeline for that happening. Key word there is 'clarity'.
RE: RE: Reiss is a Pats beat guy  
GFAN52 : 2/6/2018 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13824385 BestFeature said:
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In comment 13824318 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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Mike Reiss

Source close to situation says clarity on Bill Belichick's status in New England (Belichick is locked in to coach Patriots in 2018) and stability for family among top factors for Josh McDaniels' sudden change.



So Belichick staying was a factor? He doesn't want to take over for him? I'm confused.


Kraft also increased his salary as OC.
I cant blame McDaniels  
Les in TO : 2/6/2018 9:11 pm : link
Family stability is a key reason why he decided to stay in NE and with 4 kids and the impact it had on them when he took the Denver and St. Louis jobs, I can get the reason why he decided to stay. Not to mention it is Indiana and a crappy team. perhaps Kraft assured him verbally that he will be Grumpy Lobster Boat Captains successor when the time comes for him to retire.
This is all about Defaltegate  
montanagiant : 2/6/2018 9:11 pm : link
Petty move by Kraft
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