Points out the mechanical issues, but for the most part an encouraging profile. I still prefer Rosen, but I'd be happy with Darnold. And if I were a Browns fan I might just prefer Darnold over Rosen.
p.s.--Comparing their mechanics, you can see how Rosen was the former tennis player and Darnold the former basketball player.
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Although I too prefer Rosen I'd feel better if the Giants had the choice of the top two QBs, so that they don't have to settle for the 2nd best one.
That said, lets draft Barkley. :)
People on this site worry about the HC calling plays but want him to spend his time doing QB drills?
And Shurmurs expertise is in offenses designed to his players strengths, not teaching QBs new mechanics
People on this site worry about the HC calling plays but want him to spend his time doing QB drills?
And Shurmurs expertise is in offenses designed to his players strengths, not teaching QBs new mechanics
Hahaha.
For Rosen, I feel like the health is the major concern. Concussions, shoulder injuries and slight frame worry me. But, when healthy, I feel most confident that he's an NFL QB.
For Darnold, I worry about him being able to play within a complex NFL offense. I wonder if he'll be a little like Eli where two minute drill Darnold is the most consistent Darnold.
Either way, I'd find reasons to be happy and concerned about each as a pick.
If Darnold is that guy, then lets get him.
Rosen is not that guy.
People on this site worry about the HC calling plays but want him to spend his time doing QB drills?
And Shurmurs expertise is in offenses designed to his players strengths, not teaching QBs new mechanics
Coughlin did it with Tiki's fumbling.
Shurmer seems to be system-adaptable and will play to his QBs strengths. I always thought Eli was strictly a vertical play-action QB and that it was a mistake for the Giants to move to the WCO these past few years. I could be wrong about that, particularly if you believe that Eli has lost his long ball (because throwing deep is the whole point of a vertical offense that buys time via play action).
And just like with offenses, I think Darnold is the most one-size-fits-all when it comes to the city where he will play. You could put him in Cleveland, put him in NYC, put him in Denver, Arizona, Miami, Buffalo, you name it and he'll fit in fine with the fans and the city. That may not be as true of Rosen, who--given his political outspokenness--is probably best situated in a cosmopolitan city like NYC than a blue collar city like Cleveland.
As the Cleveland GM it would be more important for me to clarify expectations re: his outspokenness than it would be as GM of the Giants or Jets. As the GM of the Giants, my only red flag with Rosen would be the shoulder injuries (he had one as a tennis player that would've required surgery had he not given up the sport and then he had the one we all know about at UCLA in which he did have shoulder surgery). I see the concussions as more of red herring than a red flag. I think Justin Pugh is more likely to cut his career short because of concussions than Josh Rosen (or any QB for that matter). As the GM of the Browns, his outspokenness and politics would be more likely to be considered a red flag.
I use words like "might" and "likely" because these are things that need to be hashed out during the interview process. Rosen's coachability extends beyond the football field and I think he would be reasonable if his coach told him to cool it with things that might alienate the fanbase.
People on this site worry about the HC calling plays but want him to spend his time doing QB drills?
And Shurmurs expertise is in offenses designed to his players strengths, not teaching QBs new mechanics