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DanMetroMan : 2/7/2018 7:35 am
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RE: Pistons  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 13824976 GMEN46 said:
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Just got an injury exception for Leur I believe. Lee and oquinn for stamina and contracts 2 years or less

they could accept KOQ or Beasley right into the exception without having to take $$ back. Of course that's the case with any other player making in that range. Additionally, teams over the luxury tax may even attach picks to players to drop into that exception. In other words, our vets are ok but I don't know if they're good enough to get anything substantial back in return.
Its sad that they needed to see KP going down  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:06 am : link
before deciding to sell. At least we can see that as a positive of KP going down. Now we are ok selling off.
RE: RE: Was planning to see a game at the Garden.  
Beezer : 2/7/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13824824 Giantology said:
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In comment 13824691 Beezer said:


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At the ridiculous prices, now I donít know if I want to.



Prices should be much less ridiculous now. Only going down


Is there a better approach than just watching StubHub? I gave my eye on a couple baseline tickets. Theyíd immediately be the most expensive tickets Iíve ever purchased, by about double. Would be really nice if they plummeted.
apperently  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/7/2018 11:21 am : link
Willy to Charlotte
Keep the trades coming.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:22 am : link
.
with KP out  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/7/2018 11:24 am : link
and no reason to win games, why trade Willy now? Why not play him?
This is just  
Phil in LA : 2/7/2018 11:26 am : link
brutal.
RE: apperently  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:26 am : link
In comment 13825037 Steve in Greenwich said:
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Willy to Charlotte


Malik monk?
Monk and Bacon were two of my draft favorites.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:27 am : link
Maybe we'll get one of them.
Willy  
Jon in NYC : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
for Monk would be pretty wild.
I'm prepared for disappointment, as usual.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
,
Ian Begley  
Canton : 2/7/2018 11:29 am : link
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Ian Begley
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The Knicks are finalizing a deal to send center Willy Hernangomez to Charlotte, league sources confirm. Hernangomez had been unhappy with his role in New York. The deal was first reported by Yahoo Sports.
I would take  
Jon in NYC : 2/7/2018 11:29 am : link
Bacon as well.
WTF did these idiots do now  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:29 am : link
.
Dream on  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:31 am : link
It's going to be a pair of second round picks or something
it's neither  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/7/2018 11:31 am : link
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Sources: Charlotte is sending Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks to the Knicks for Willy Hernangomez.
Imagine Willy somehow  
Canton : 2/7/2018 11:31 am : link
becomes an adequate defender, and his offensive game explodes in 2-3 years, and he becomes an all-star lol.
Johnny Bryant and 2 seconds  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:31 am : link
Oh boy
oh Jesus  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:32 am : link
Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks?

HAHAHAHA....I was close!  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:33 am : link
Nailed the picks but forgot the useless end-of-the-bench throw-in
RE: oh Jesus  
Canton : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
In comment 13825083 Enzo said:
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Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks?


Well tge honeymoons over LOL.

we got a bag of peanuts. The front office is killing it 😂
Perry/Mills  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:35 am : link
just let themselves be strong-armed by a guy who's been in the league for 5 minutes.
RE: it's neither  
rich in DC : 2/7/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 13825078 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Sources: Charlotte is sending Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks to the Knicks for Willy Hernangomez.


The worst part- if these are 2018 picks, it will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder. In other words, end of the 2nd round picks...
RE: Imagine Willy somehow  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:36 am : link
In comment 13825079 Canton said:
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becomes an adequate defender, and his offensive game explodes in 2-3 years, and he becomes an all-star lol.


Even if he doesn't, and is the exact same player he is today for the rest of his career, he's going to be a helluva lot more valuable than Johnny O'Bryant and whichever jokers they choose with those picks.
we haven't even  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:36 am : link
conveyed the picks we gave up to get Wily. That doesn't happen until 2020 and 2021.
RE: RE: it's neither  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:37 am : link
In comment 13825100 rich in DC said:
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The worst part- if these are 2018 picks, it will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder. In other words, end of the 2nd round picks...


And we once were somewhat optimistic about Perry.
What are they doing?  
GMEN46 : 2/7/2018 11:40 am : link
That is an awful deal? Are these guys morons
Willy  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2018 11:42 am : link
Please someone try to sell this trade to me. I'm not even the biggest Willy fan, but you just traded an all rookie center locked in a contract for the vet min until 2020. At worst hes a solid backup. Not to mention hes best friends with your franchise player who just suffered a crippling injury.

Explain to me how the Knicks aren't dsyfcuntional again? I can't wait to watch the youth movement of Jack/ Lee/ Lance down the stretch...Here comes another pick between 10-12.
weird deal  
Heisenberg : 2/7/2018 11:44 am : link
I don't think they could have gotten a first for him. And Monk or Bacon were pure fantasy.

It's what the market is for him but, I guess my feeling is why not just keep him rather than trade him for this.

tells me that they are prob planning on keeping Kanter tho
I donít understand  
GMEN46 : 2/7/2018 11:46 am : link
How fans can be better general managers that these executives. Mills went to Princeton. What. Amoron. Willy was locked in for 2 more years on a cheap contract
Kanter is definitely going to be signed  
Canton : 2/7/2018 11:46 am : link
NY loves him.
"Youth Movement"  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2018 11:47 am : link
Most likely the knicks will be finishing this season without 1 future piece in their starting lineup. What a disgraceful franchise.

Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...
RE:  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:49 am : link
In comment 13825153 TyreeHelmet said:
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Most likely the knicks will be finishing this season without 1 future piece in their starting lineup. What a disgraceful franchise.

Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...


Oh, see, that's why they needed those second round picks!
what's funny is that  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:51 am : link
there's basically zero chance Perry is here in 2021 to make the last of these picks. If we're lucky, maybe Mills will be gone too.
RE: I donít understand  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:53 am : link
In comment 13825150 GMEN46 said:
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How fans can be better general managers that these executives. Mills went to Princeton. What. Amoron. Willy was locked in for 2 more years on a cheap contract


We talked about this yesterday. It doesn't matter who is the face of the decisions. From every front office executive that we've had for the past 20 years, the one constant is James Dolan.
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TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2018 11:55 am : link
In comment 13825156 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13825153 TyreeHelmet said:


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Most likely the knicks will be finishing this season without 1 future piece in their starting lineup. What a disgraceful franchise.

Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...



Oh, see, that's why they needed those second round picks!


What would you rather have? The Knicks 2019 2nd round pick or the Hornets 2020/201 picks? Because I would argue the Knicks gave up more for Scott Perry then the Hornets gave up for Willy.

Explain to me why the Knicks needed to trade a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry again?
so he could make brilliant deals like this  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:59 am : link
obviously
RE: What are they doing?  
Justlurking : 2/7/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13825124 GMEN46 said:
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That is an awful deal? Are these guys morons


Well, Steve Mills has been in the Knicks organization forever and has never made an intelligent move and Perry is the guy responsible for building the worst team in the NBA.

So to answer your question, yes. They are complete and utter morons.
Mills is not a basketball guy. How he is in charge of basketball  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/7/2018 2:27 pm : link
operations just shows you how clueless Dolan is. Graduating from Princeton and looking good in a suit donít translate to making good basketball decisions.

Letting him sign Hardaway as an interim was just idiotic.

I thought Perry would be different, jury is still out.
Well it didn't take long  
moespree : 2/7/2018 2:38 pm : link
I liked Perry and was intrigued by the things he was saying earlier in the year and thought there was finally a guy in charge who had a plan to do it the right way. Well that didn't last long. More of the same again. Another guy seduced by the quick fix.
RE: Go back to last offseason  
djm : 2/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13824727 Chris684 said:
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when Phil was getting killed for listening to offers for KP.

This past year's #3 pick (Tatum), Brooklyn's pick this year, and one of Boston's young players on top of Frank and their own lottery pick and all of a sudden things look very different.


Oh shut your trap.
If the Celtics offered that package  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 4:13 pm : link
Phil would've taken it. I wanted no part of trading KP, but if Boston offered the #3 pick AND this year's Brooklyn pick, you'd have to do it. No chance that was on the table.
I try and try  
djm : 2/7/2018 4:21 pm : link
to just cut the Knicks out and not care. And yet something always pulls me back or gives me a small sense of hope. And every fucking time I buy in long or short term the Knicks shit all over me and everyone else.

I just can't take this team anymore. I'm sure I will be wagging my fucking tail all fucking excited in about 700 days or so..."we have cap room...we have KP back healthy a decent core of young hungry players"----and then the entire team will get hurt in a charity pickup game or something...they just can't get things right.

I'm more Knicks depressed today than i've been in a while. They constantly push that envelop too. Just when I think I can't get any angrier or frustrated the Knicks raise the bar.

Oh and you can bet your ass the Frank will suck balls when all is said n done. Cmon...a drafted PG reach an elite potential here with the Knicks? Get real.
Yeah, this a rock bottom type of day, no question.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 4:26 pm : link
KP is a star. People can debate his future, his ceiling, etc., whatever - the guy's averaging 23 per night and leading the NBA in blocks and he's only 22 years old. It's crazy what he's accomplished in 2.5 years. Elite scoring and elite rim protection and he's a few years away from entering his prime. Just have to pray to the basketball gods he comes back strong.
We hit "rock bottom"  
Keith : 2/7/2018 4:38 pm : link
once per year. I'm numb to it actually. It makes you appreciate any success that you have with your other teams(sorry mets fans). In the grand scheme of things, this could be a blessing. The reality is that we should be focused on asset gathering for 2020. Our focus for the next 2 years SHOULD have been to get the best possible picks and as many good young players as possible. This should help that. So assuming KP comes back 100%(most guys do this day and age), we should be in position to compete in 2020 if we make the right decisions now.

That being said, I know the owner doesn't share the same patience and we will probably try our best to compete the next few seasons and make the playoffs.
RE: We hit  
DanMetroMan : 2/7/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 13825747 Keith said:
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once per year. I'm numb to it actually. It makes you appreciate any success that you have with your other teams(sorry mets fans). In the grand scheme of things, this could be a blessing. The reality is that we should be focused on asset gathering for 2020. Our focus for the next 2 years SHOULD have been to get the best possible picks and as many good young players as possible. This should help that. So assuming KP comes back 100%(most guys do this day and age), we should be in position to compete in 2020 if we make the right decisions now.

That being said, I know the owner doesn't share the same patience and we will probably try our best to compete the next few seasons and make the playoffs.


If I'm being brutally honest I really think my pure "love" of sports has taken a major hit with how bad my teams generally are. I still obviously "feel" it when the Giants are good and it's a big game etc but I really think "how bad" my teams routinely are has taken a toll on my real passion for the teams.
No Kanter Tomorrow  
Eli Wilson : 2/7/2018 5:10 pm : link
Who's the backup center? Noah?


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Enes Kanter will not play tomorrow vs. Toronto after having the cut in his mouth re-stitched. Tim Hardaway Jr. is available to play.
Kanter desperately needs the All-Star Break.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 5:18 pm : link
Dude was moving around like a 90-year-old at the end of last night's game. I'm not a huge Kanter fan, but you can't knock his effort - he gives it all he has.
RE: No Kanter Tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13825774 Eli Wilson said:
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Who's the backup center? Noah?




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Enes Kanter will not play tomorrow vs. Toronto after having the cut in his mouth re-stitched. Tim Hardaway Jr. is available to play.



My guess is kornwt unless Knicks make a move tonight
Well that about does it  
TJ : 2/7/2018 6:51 pm : link
I've watched my last knicks game for this year. If I had any brains I wouldn't watch again til Dolan's gone.
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