that Lee, KOQ, or Jack should be on this team moving forward. I really like Lee, but he wont be here when we are good again and he has some value. Id have to assume we could get like a 2nd for Beasley. I know they play different positions but i could see whoever misses out on Evans turning around and looking at beasley. Teams that need scoring should def be interested in Beasley
unfortunately it appears that the market is clogged with teams looking to unload vets. If the best you can get for KOQ is a decent #2, I guess you take it since he's likely leaving this summer. For Lee, it might make sense to keep him around and see if you can do better for him down the road.
RE: giving up a second basically to be able to match what teams offer Â
Payton? Not terrible I suppose? he's improved his game pretty consistently. but he's gonna need to get paid.
everyone is saying there's not going to be much money available this summer. So maybe it would make sense to keep a guy like Payton (and also McDermott) if you can get them to stay on reasonable deals. Most of these guys aren't going to be able to do better than the MLE.
and let Willy play as much as he wants. If the Knicks front office doesn't see this as the perfect "excuse" to tank, they will regret it indefinitely and Perry will have been just another disappointment in a long line of disappointments.
We're gonna have to schedule another open panel discussion Â
Just got an injury exception for Leur I believe. Lee and oquinn for stamina and contracts 2 years or less
they could accept KOQ or Beasley right into the exception without having to take $$ back. Of course that's the case with any other player making in that range. Additionally, teams over the luxury tax may even attach picks to players to drop into that exception. In other words, our vets are ok but I don't know if they're good enough to get anything substantial back in return.
At the ridiculous prices, now I don’t know if I want to.
Prices should be much less ridiculous now. Only going down
Is there a better approach than just watching StubHub? I gave my eye on a couple baseline tickets. They’d immediately be the most expensive tickets I’ve ever purchased, by about double. Would be really nice if they plummeted.
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The Knicks are finalizing a deal to send center Willy Hernangomez to Charlotte, league sources confirm. Hernangomez had been unhappy with his role in New York. The deal was first reported by Yahoo Sports.
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Sources: Charlotte is sending Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks to the Knicks for Willy Hernangomez.
The worst part- if these are 2018 picks, it will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder. In other words, end of the 2nd round picks...
becomes an adequate defender, and his offensive game explodes in 2-3 years, and he becomes an all-star lol.
Even if he doesn't, and is the exact same player he is today for the rest of his career, he's going to be a helluva lot more valuable than Johnny O'Bryant and whichever jokers they choose with those picks.
The worst part- if these are 2018 picks, it will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder. In other words, end of the 2nd round picks...
Please someone try to sell this trade to me. I'm not even the biggest Willy fan, but you just traded an all rookie center locked in a contract for the vet min until 2020. At worst hes a solid backup. Not to mention hes best friends with your franchise player who just suffered a crippling injury.
Explain to me how the Knicks aren't dsyfcuntional again? I can't wait to watch the youth movement of Jack/ Lee/ Lance down the stretch...Here comes another pick between 10-12.
How fans can be better general managers that these executives. Mills went to Princeton. What. Amoron. Willy was locked in for 2 more years on a cheap contract
How fans can be better general managers that these executives. Mills went to Princeton. What. Amoron. Willy was locked in for 2 more years on a cheap contract
We talked about this yesterday. It doesn't matter who is the face of the decisions. From every front office executive that we've had for the past 20 years, the one constant is James Dolan.
Most likely the knicks will be finishing this season without 1 future piece in their starting lineup. What a disgraceful franchise.
Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...
Oh, see, that's why they needed those second round picks!
What would you rather have? The Knicks 2019 2nd round pick or the Hornets 2020/201 picks? Because I would argue the Knicks gave up more for Scott Perry then the Hornets gave up for Willy.
Explain to me why the Knicks needed to trade a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry again?
Well, Steve Mills has been in the Knicks organization forever and has never made an intelligent move and Perry is the guy responsible for building the worst team in the NBA.
So to answer your question, yes. They are complete and utter morons.
Mills is not a basketball guy. How he is in charge of basketball Â
operations just shows you how clueless Dolan is. Graduating from Princeton and looking good in a suit don’t translate to making good basketball decisions.
Letting him sign Hardaway as an interim was just idiotic.
I thought Perry would be different, jury is still out.
I liked Perry and was intrigued by the things he was saying earlier in the year and thought there was finally a guy in charge who had a plan to do it the right way. Well that didn't last long. More of the same again. Another guy seduced by the quick fix.
when Phil was getting killed for listening to offers for KP.
This past year's #3 pick (Tatum), Brooklyn's pick this year, and one of Boston's young players on top of Frank and their own lottery pick and all of a sudden things look very different.
Phil would've taken it. I wanted no part of trading KP, but if Boston offered the #3 pick AND this year's Brooklyn pick, you'd have to do it. No chance that was on the table.
to just cut the Knicks out and not care. And yet something always pulls me back or gives me a small sense of hope. And every fucking time I buy in long or short term the Knicks shit all over me and everyone else.
I just can't take this team anymore. I'm sure I will be wagging my fucking tail all fucking excited in about 700 days or so..."we have cap room...we have KP back healthy a decent core of young hungry players"----and then the entire team will get hurt in a charity pickup game or something...they just can't get things right.
I'm more Knicks depressed today than i've been in a while. They constantly push that envelop too. Just when I think I can't get any angrier or frustrated the Knicks raise the bar.
Oh and you can bet your ass the Frank will suck balls when all is said n done. Cmon...a drafted PG reach an elite potential here with the Knicks? Get real.
unfortunately it appears that the market is clogged with teams looking to unload vets. If the best you can get for KOQ is a decent #2, I guess you take it since he's likely leaving this summer. For Lee, it might make sense to keep him around and see if you can do better for him down the road.
everyone is saying there's not going to be much money available this summer. So maybe it would make sense to keep a guy like Payton (and also McDermott) if you can get them to stay on reasonable deals. Most of these guys aren't going to be able to do better than the MLE.
He knows he can't win to save his job now.
He knows he can't win to save his job now.
They can always spin this as he deserves another year based off this injury.
I don't like Hornacek and would be okay with Mark Jackson for 2-3 years.
they could accept KOQ or Beasley right into the exception without having to take $$ back. Of course that's the case with any other player making in that range. Additionally, teams over the luxury tax may even attach picks to players to drop into that exception. In other words, our vets are ok but I don't know if they're good enough to get anything substantial back in return.
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At the ridiculous prices, now I don’t know if I want to.
Prices should be much less ridiculous now. Only going down
Is there a better approach than just watching StubHub? I gave my eye on a couple baseline tickets. They’d immediately be the most expensive tickets I’ve ever purchased, by about double. Would be really nice if they plummeted.
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The Knicks are finalizing a deal to send center Willy Hernangomez to Charlotte, league sources confirm. Hernangomez had been unhappy with his role in New York. The deal was first reported by Yahoo Sports.
Sources: Charlotte is sending Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks to the Knicks for Willy Hernangomez.
Well tge honeymoons over LOL.
we got a bag of peanuts. The front office is killing it 😂
Sources: Charlotte is sending Johnny O'Bryant and two second-round draft picks to the Knicks for Willy Hernangomez.
The worst part- if these are 2018 picks, it will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder. In other words, end of the 2nd round picks...
Even if he doesn't, and is the exact same player he is today for the rest of his career, he's going to be a helluva lot more valuable than Johnny O'Bryant and whichever jokers they choose with those picks.
And we once were somewhat optimistic about Perry.
Explain to me how the Knicks aren't dsyfcuntional again? I can't wait to watch the youth movement of Jack/ Lee/ Lance down the stretch...Here comes another pick between 10-12.
It's what the market is for him but, I guess my feeling is why not just keep him rather than trade him for this.
tells me that they are prob planning on keeping Kanter tho
Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...
Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...
Oh, see, that's why they needed those second round picks!
We talked about this yesterday. It doesn't matter who is the face of the decisions. From every front office executive that we've had for the past 20 years, the one constant is James Dolan.
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Most likely the knicks will be finishing this season without 1 future piece in their starting lineup. What a disgraceful franchise.
Don't forget the Knicks gave up a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry...
Oh, see, that's why they needed those second round picks!
What would you rather have? The Knicks 2019 2nd round pick or the Hornets 2020/201 picks? Because I would argue the Knicks gave up more for Scott Perry then the Hornets gave up for Willy.
Explain to me why the Knicks needed to trade a 2nd round pick for Scott Perry again?
Well, Steve Mills has been in the Knicks organization forever and has never made an intelligent move and Perry is the guy responsible for building the worst team in the NBA.
So to answer your question, yes. They are complete and utter morons.
Letting him sign Hardaway as an interim was just idiotic.
I thought Perry would be different, jury is still out.
This past year's #3 pick (Tatum), Brooklyn's pick this year, and one of Boston's young players on top of Frank and their own lottery pick and all of a sudden things look very different.
Oh shut your trap.
I just can't take this team anymore. I'm sure I will be wagging my fucking tail all fucking excited in about 700 days or so..."we have cap room...we have KP back healthy a decent core of young hungry players"----and then the entire team will get hurt in a charity pickup game or something...they just can't get things right.
I'm more Knicks depressed today than i've been in a while. They constantly push that envelop too. Just when I think I can't get any angrier or frustrated the Knicks raise the bar.
Oh and you can bet your ass the Frank will suck balls when all is said n done. Cmon...a drafted PG reach an elite potential here with the Knicks? Get real.