I'm thinking he could be a top free agent priority for the Giants in addition the the OL.
Had a decent year last year....is fully recovered from his horrific injury.
He can play inside with Woodson if the Giants play alot of 3-4....and he can certainly be an MLB or SLB in a 4-3 scheme. He should be somewhat affordable.....and I think he'd be a great locker room guy. Thoughts?
I think he's only 29....he has a couple years left in him.
Everyone wants to only have young players, until the young guys are hurt or just plain suck.
You need a few vets in every position group.
Dansby is still around? Jeez... every time his contract is up he gets mentioned as a Giants target!
The "Too old, pass" crowd will never get it.
What percentage of starting NFL linebackers ARE good in coverage? And the few that excel in this area are sometimes not very good in stopping the run. For arguments sake, lets say there are 100 starting LB's in the NFL. Give me 10 that excel at both.
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The "Too old, pass" crowd will never get it.
Yep. A veteran presence, especially if you're switching to a new scheme, shouldn't be underestimated.
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I think he's only 29....he has a couple years left in him.
Surprised he is only 29 it seems like he's been around forever.
I've been saying the Giants should go after Kevin Minter, another ILB who has played for Bettcher and actually had his 2 best years in that scheme. Still relatively young. He will be affordable, especially coming off a down year in Cincy. I don't think he fit the Bengals system as well as he did in Bettcher's system.
But, in 2016 under Bettcher, Minter was graded as a top 25 lb.
I'd say he's on the younger side of "old" at 29, especially with a team-friendly contract.
He is a SS
Devon Kennard can play ILB or OLB in Bettcher's scheme. He should be brought back to compete at both spots. Worst case scenario is that he is a situational pass rusher that provides solid depth.
This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.
This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.
He played some stand up with Miami.
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.
Devon Kennard can play ILB or OLB in Bettcher's scheme. He should be brought back to compete at both spots. Worst case scenario is that he is a situational pass rusher that provides solid depth.
Kennard's not that great. They need to move on.
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.
This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.
He played some stand up with Miami.
Vernon stood up a lot last year with NY.
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Karlos Dansby is another veteran ILB who Bettcher knows well.
Dansby is still around? Jeez... every time his contract is up he gets mentioned as a Giants target!
Maybe it's because he's better than most of the LBs on our roster
Yes! We should only be signing the up and coming 25 year old studs hitting free agency, and only on team friendly deals!
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