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| McDaniels’ agent, Bob Lamonte, told McDaniels this could be the biggest professional mistake of his life, NFL Network reported Wednesday morning. Lamonte is also the agent for Colts GM Chris Ballard, so the 11th-hour heel turn devastated McDaniels’ own agent for multiple reasons. |
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..it ruins your reputation. And he already had a bit of a repute as being hard to deal with.
If you're going to act like that, you need a track record like Bellichick.
McDaniel hasn't achieved squat.
Belichick didn't have the track record, at the time, either.
What did Bellichick do that resembled this?
He was denied/not allowed to talk to the Pats. So he left the Jets.
That was a totally unique situation, doesn't compare to this.
His next job interview could be entertaining.
It's unlikely a team will ever offer him a HC job again after seeing him screw the Colts (though teams do insane things), and even if they did, why would any assistants around the league trust him enough to agree to leave jobs to go work for him?
McDaniels is dead meat. And as he's always been an arrogant tool, he kind of deserves it. All he has left is to wait out Belichick’s retirement. Assuming Kraft will hand him the job.
This is absolutely correct.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
On Indy? If they were told the deal was done why would they pursue other candidates? The staff was already being put together BY McDaniels. Maybe McDaniels got cold feet, but I doubt it. I’m guessing he got a great counter offered and stayed, which is his right. But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a dick move.
I don't know why anyone would want to coach with this guy when he became HC ever again.
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McDaniels interviewed for the Colts job. He was actively seeking it. Belichick was NOT seeking the Jets job. He was in a situation where he was Parcells' designated successor, but Parcells would never commit to a year in which he was actually going to step down. Because of that, he was frustrated. When New England asked to interview him, Parcells panicked because he knew Belichick was tired of waiting on him and would likely take the New England job, so he abruptly resigned and elevated Belichick to the HC job. Belichick didn't seek it out, it was thrust upon him.
This is absolutely correct.
Exactly correct.
Bellichick was essentially being dragged into it, even though he previously agreed take over when Parcells retired. But the monkey wrench was the Pats asked to speak with BB......and Parcells tried to pull a fast one by resigning and elevating BB.
BB simply resigned. He actually had no guarantee he would have gotten the Pats job.......
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McDaniels interviewed for the Colts job. He was actively seeking it. Belichick was NOT seeking the Jets job. He was in a situation where he was Parcells' designated successor, but Parcells would never commit to a year in which he was actually going to step down. Because of that, he was frustrated. When New England asked to interview him, Parcells panicked because he knew Belichick was tired of waiting on him and would likely take the New England job, so he abruptly resigned and elevated Belichick to the HC job. Belichick didn't seek it out, it was thrust upon him.
This is absolutely correct.
The other part of it is Parcells/the Jets never verified they received a fax requesting an interview with BB. Parcells simply resigned and elevated BB.
Also, Jets ownership was in flux. Leon Hess had died, and that was the man who made the agreement about BB taking over for Parcells when he was ready to give it up.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Apparently he would. Supposedly he "turned down" the Giants (Thank God) for the Colts.
The guy is an asshole.
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In comment 13825330 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Bill Polian was on this morning and said that the tension actually dates all the way back to Spygate
Bottom line is Kraft is not the nicest person in the history of the world and I would not be surprised at all if he held onto a grudge against the Colts and Irsay.
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In comment 13825519 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13825330 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Bill Polian was on this morning and said that the tension actually dates all the way back to Spygate
and probably back further, to the 2003 AFC Title game when Polian and Manning cried so much about the officiating that the rules were change to basically outlaw defense.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
Maybe so, but I know if I accepted a job with an employer, and then changed my mind, I would never bother sending that employer a resume again. McDaniel certainly has the right to d othis, but good luck finding another NFL job with any team not named the Pats.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
All reasonable things that an honorable person would have figured out BEFORE accepting the job and hiring staff.
It's unlikely a team will ever offer him a HC job again after seeing him screw the Colts (though teams do insane things), and even if they did, why would any assistants around the league trust him enough to agree to leave jobs to go work for him?
McDaniels is dead meat. And as he's always been an arrogant tool, he kind of deserves it. All he has left is to wait out Belichick’s retirement. Assuming Kraft will hand him the job.
That is the f'd up part ... he screwed over people that trusted him and made a changed based off him and his word ... He is not the stuff champions are made off. NE will fall back into the abyss of the NFL .... it is going to be hilarious!
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What he did was wrong on some levels, but I’m convinced he has been told he is the man to follow B.B. whenever he leaves. In the meantime, you make good money, you have an easy job for you, you don’t have the stress of an nfl coach, you might not even be a good head coach if you leave, and you pretty much are guaranteed a position here in NE if you stay.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
All reasonable things that an honorable person would have figured out BEFORE accepting the job and hiring staff.
Pretty much.
I'm dumbfounded as to how anyone could try to explain this in a positive light.
The Pats, Bill, and Kraft heading to the Superbowl had other priorities. Once the game was over, Kraft sought out Bill to find out his intentions. They met for 5-6 hours to discuss the future. Kraft then realized he didn't want to lose his in house young OC. So he made him an Offer that was too good to pass up. ( I'm thinking Brady may have been in his ear)
At that point, Kraft gets to screw the Colts and Irsay. He clears up the future with Bill. Looks like he coach for 1 more year. He provides his franchise a succession plan by keeping McDaniels in the fold. Oh, and there is a smile on Brady's face.
McDaniels can't say no. His wife and kids get to stay in NE. Where they have built a life loaded with friends and family. There is the certainty of working with an owner that you like and admire. A HOF head coach who approved of the plan. A GM who you know and respect. Plus a QB who's been one the best.
The issue was the timing of Kraft and Bill sitting down. It makes McDaniels look foolish, letting his assistants leave jobs, it embarrasses the Colts organization. And now his agent cut ties with him.
At the end of the day......a happy wife makes for a happy life. LOL
All of this. How is Irsay even being used as an argument. You know what he is. He didn't just figure it out weeks after having the job and signing his coaching staff. I can't see how other working adults can have this opinion.
I read the newspapers ... and from a tidbit here and a quote there ... I get the sense he is a major league asshole.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
All that is fine and he does have the right to change his mind, but it is still a dick move. He should have known prior to interviewing that he did not want to work for Irsay, he should have spoken to his wife about the move. Are you telling me his wife had no idea for 3 weeks that she was moving there? BS. It was a dick move, plain and simple.
Maybe Broncos and Colts players are the only ones trying to bang McDaniels wife and she's perfectly safe in NE??
How many Head Coaches were known to be going to other teams while they were in the midst of a playoff run and really not able to talk about another job
In management, in that industry, your word is understood to be your bond. It's incredible when you think about it -- Lamonte tossed a huge payday to separate himself from McDaniels because of this.
McDaniels has no options or leverage in the NFL anymore -- he either does what Kraft says or he's screwed. He gave up his integrity and any opportunity to go anywhere else in the NFL with the way he handled this. He is now officially a high-paid water boy. What happens when Belichick leaves the Pats and McDaniels craps out? or if Kraft changes his mind about him -- he is on an iceberg.
How many Head Coaches were known to be going to other teams while they were in the midst of a playoff run and really not able to talk about another job
In management, in that industry, your word is understood to be your bond. It's incredible when you think about it -- Lamonte tossed a huge payday to separate himself from McDaniels because of this.
McDaniels has no options or leverage in the NFL anymore -- he either does what Kraft says or he's screwed. He gave up his integrity and any opportunity to go anywhere else in the NFL with the way he handled this. He is now officially a high-paid water boy. What happens when Belichick leaves the Pats and McDaniels craps out? or if Kraft changes his mind about him -- he is on an iceberg.
Another possible side effect of this is how other teams will treat the Pats when/if they ever want to interview one of their coaches. I can see quite a few owners being put off by what Kraft did and therefore not working with him when he needs anything.
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At the end of the day......a happy wife makes for a happy life. LOL
Maybe Broncos and Colts players are the only ones trying to bang McDaniels wife and she's perfectly safe in NE??
Not with Belichick in town.
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Who in their right mind would work for Irsay if they had options?
Apparently he would. Supposedly he "turned down" the Giants (Thank God) for the Colts.
The guy is an asshole.
Imagine this: Kraft, BB, TB and McDaniels all sitting in Kraft's office .
laughing their asses off at the Colts. "Dumbasses released info that he was signed" Rivalry? Our Ass!
Unless JM forced those guys to resign before offering them the job, it's their own fault.
Also, I second the notion that the Colts are better off without him.
Unless JM forced those guys to resign before offering them the job, it's their own fault.
Also, I second the notion that the Colts are better off without him.
It's simple really... because in the history of the league, how many times has this happened? I'm thinking that they believe McDaniels when he contacted them about being on his staff in Indy. They trusted that he'd be going there and since what he did rarely happens in the league, they believed him. I could see you're point if this had happened more than maybe once or twice before (and I can't think of a time it EVER happened before but who knows what goes on behind the scenes in the league) but this caught everyone by surprised. The Colts even announced him as their head coach! Which means they must've had some kind of confirmation that he was coming there.
A better question is to wonder how much of a hit McDaniels' (not to mention Kraft and maybe Belichick) take by this move. I'm sure that many in the coaching (and owners) groups aren't very happy with McDaniels right now and that may hurt them when it comes to him trying to get his own assistants when he's ready to take over. I'm pretty sure he won't be able to call the guys he has stuck in Indy right now lol.
That's a bizarre take.
No offense... but you're also not an NFL assistance coach.
If you were, you probably would... or else you run the risk of that coach going with someone else while you wait for him to send you his copy of his contract.
I hope he has something in writing from Kraft.
You're correct... I did misunderstand (and maybe still do) because those assistance coaches DID receive a contract from the Colts and are contractually tied to the Colts now WITHOUT the guy who was supposed to be there to be their HC. They're employed. The problem is that they're employed by a team that doesn't have a HC and when they do hire a HC that HC probably won't like having guys another guy hired to be there with him. That's what makes this situation so bad... not that those assistance coaches are unemployed... it's that they are employed but the guy who asked them to go there reneged on his commitment and decided to stay in NE.
This is more like college recruits being burned by vacating coaches then. As 'trel would say, at the end of the day, these coaches have an opportunity to advance their careers by performing under adverse conditions.
Now if Indy releases them when the new coach is hired, shame on Indy and JM.
This is more like college recruits being burned by vacating coaches then. As 'trel would say, at the end of the day, these coaches have an opportunity to advance their careers by performing under adverse conditions.
Now if Indy releases them when the new coach is hired, shame on Indy and JM.
I don’t know if they were lateral moves or promotions. I haven’t looked into this situation that much. All I know is what I told you and that’s as of right now there are some assistant coaches who are now employed by the Colts but are going to be without the man who asked them to be there in the first place. I agree that it’s similar to when college coaches leave a team after recruiting a player and having him commit EXCEPT that that kind of scenario has played out plenty of times in the past so recruits should at least be aware that something like this COULD happen. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of what happened in the Colts/McDaniels before now. These are people’s LIVES he played with like he did... there’s something very wrong about that.
I disagree though that if the Colts fire those ACs they’re at fault. It’s not their fault McDaniels bailed on them and they can’t... or maybe I should say shouldn’t... expect whoever the new coach is to have to accept them on his staff. What if there are basic philosophical differences between the new HC and the assistants he didn’t ask to be on his staff?
I'd be interested to see the timing of JM agreeing to terms vs the signing of these assistants. We can agree he messed up, I'm just not as quick to call it malice.
I'd be interested to see the timing of JM agreeing to terms vs the signing of these assistants. We can agree he messed up, I'm just not as quick to call it malice.
‘Malice’ isn’t a word I’m sure I’d use either.
But it was definitely a dick move by him no matter how ya slice it.