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| McDaniels’ agent, Bob Lamonte, told McDaniels this could be the biggest professional mistake of his life, NFL Network reported Wednesday morning. Lamonte is also the agent for Colts GM Chris Ballard, so the 11th-hour heel turn devastated McDaniels’ own agent for multiple reasons. |
If you're going to act like that, you need a track record like Bellichick.
McDaniel hasn't achieved squat.
If he says: Josh had a change of heart...is sorry about all the people hurt by the decision...blahblah...it makes JMs dickness look even worse. By taking it on he deflated the noise.
In the end the Colts will be glad this happened before he totally fucked things up there.
He has limited his potential HC teams to ONE.
He will never get a shot with another team.
If you're going to act like that, you need a track record like Bellichick.
McDaniel hasn't achieved squat.
Belichick didn't have the track record, at the time, either.
this would appear to suggest BB thinks more highly of McD since he (likely) told him to stick around and he would have the HC job shortly. He didn't do that for Patricia.
or not. who really knows?
Good way to put it.
1) Your agent is looking out for your career, mainly focused on income. He's not looking out for your life. (If McDaniels' wife and family didn't want to move to Indiana, that's not something his agent can really address.)
2) Agents have to preserve their relationships with buyers as well as clients. Most of the time their relationships with buyers are more valuable than their relationship with any single client. (Bob Lamonte can't afford to be persona non grata around the NFL. He can piss people off, he can be a tough negotiator, but he has to be seen as reasonably trustworthy. Well, as trustworthy as an agent can be.)
3) Agents sometimes have to help clients get out of bad situations. But agents can also choose to part ways with a client. (Lamonte might well decide to let go of McDaniels. Or he might stick around to collect commission on the fat deals McDaniels is expecting from the Patriots. Interesting dilemma.)
If he says: Josh had a change of heart...is sorry about all the people hurt by the decision...blahblah...it makes JMs dickness look even worse. By taking it on he deflated the noise.
Damage control? Maybe for the agents reputation. This doesn't help Mcdaniels. Its throwing him under the bus.
1) Your agent is looking out for your career, mainly focused on income. He's not looking out for your life. (If McDaniels' wife and family didn't want to move to Indiana, that's not something his agent can really address.)
2) Agents have to preserve their relationships with buyers as well as clients. Most of the time their relationships with buyers are more valuable than their relationship with any single client. (Bob Lamonte can't afford to be persona non grata around the NFL. He can piss people off, he can be a tough negotiator, but he has to be seen as reasonably trustworthy. Well, as trustworthy as an agent can be.)
3) Agents sometimes have to help clients get out of bad situations. But agents can also choose to part ways with a client. (Lamonte might well decide to let go of McDaniels. Or he might stick around to collect commission on the fat deals McDaniels is expecting from the Patriots. Interesting dilemma.)
Regarding the first point, if that was known ahead of time why did he even let it get this far? If Lamonte had told Ballard ahead of time nobody was going to make public the reason why McDaniels didn't interview. Lamonte obviously because he would not want to piss off his other client (Ballard) and Ballard because he wants to be able to attract future coaches and players and badmouthing one is not a good way of selling Indianapolis. Or they have an "interview" just to show that McDaniels was brought in, but only those inside know that all that was discussed was the weather, family, etc.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
Perhaps you didn't realize that McDaniels had put together a staff and convinced several of those staff members to leave their current jobs to go work for him with the Colts. So, NO, he does not have the right to back out now. In fact, he was speaking with the Colts on Tuesday morning about additional candidates before "magically" coming to this decision in the evening. McDaniels better have a great run in NE, because his is a dead man walking in the rest of the league.
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..it ruins your reputation. And he already had a bit of a repute as being hard to deal with.
If you're going to act like that, you need a track record like Bellichick.
McDaniel hasn't achieved squat.
Belichick didn't have the track record, at the time, either.
What did Bellichick do that resembled this?
He was denied/not allowed to talk to the Pats. So he left the Jets.
That was a totally unique situation, doesn't compare to this.
His next job interview could be entertaining.
It's unlikely a team will ever offer him a HC job again after seeing him screw the Colts (though teams do insane things), and even if they did, why would any assistants around the league trust him enough to agree to leave jobs to go work for him?
McDaniels is dead meat. And as he's always been an arrogant tool, he kind of deserves it. All he has left is to wait out Belichick’s retirement. Assuming Kraft will hand him the job.
This is absolutely correct.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
On Indy? If they were told the deal was done why would they pursue other candidates? The staff was already being put together BY McDaniels. Maybe McDaniels got cold feet, but I doubt it. I’m guessing he got a great counter offered and stayed, which is his right. But it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a dick move.
I don't know why anyone would want to coach with this guy when he became HC ever again.
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McDaniels interviewed for the Colts job. He was actively seeking it. Belichick was NOT seeking the Jets job. He was in a situation where he was Parcells' designated successor, but Parcells would never commit to a year in which he was actually going to step down. Because of that, he was frustrated. When New England asked to interview him, Parcells panicked because he knew Belichick was tired of waiting on him and would likely take the New England job, so he abruptly resigned and elevated Belichick to the HC job. Belichick didn't seek it out, it was thrust upon him.
This is absolutely correct.
Exactly correct.
Bellichick was essentially being dragged into it, even though he previously agreed take over when Parcells retired. But the monkey wrench was the Pats asked to speak with BB......and Parcells tried to pull a fast one by resigning and elevating BB.
BB simply resigned. He actually had no guarantee he would have gotten the Pats job.......
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McDaniels interviewed for the Colts job. He was actively seeking it. Belichick was NOT seeking the Jets job. He was in a situation where he was Parcells' designated successor, but Parcells would never commit to a year in which he was actually going to step down. Because of that, he was frustrated. When New England asked to interview him, Parcells panicked because he knew Belichick was tired of waiting on him and would likely take the New England job, so he abruptly resigned and elevated Belichick to the HC job. Belichick didn't seek it out, it was thrust upon him.
This is absolutely correct.
The other part of it is Parcells/the Jets never verified they received a fax requesting an interview with BB. Parcells simply resigned and elevated BB.
Also, Jets ownership was in flux. Leon Hess had died, and that was the man who made the agreement about BB taking over for Parcells when he was ready to give it up.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Apparently he would. Supposedly he "turned down" the Giants (Thank God) for the Colts.
The guy is an asshole.
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In comment 13825330 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Bill Polian was on this morning and said that the tension actually dates all the way back to Spygate
Bottom line is Kraft is not the nicest person in the history of the world and I would not be surprised at all if he held onto a grudge against the Colts and Irsay.
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In comment 13825330 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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for making such a decision. Would you want to work for Jim Irsay in a situation where your franchise QB may never play football again, at least not at QB?
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
There's another possibility going on here that you didn't iterate -- and that was that Bob Kraft wants to get back at the Colts for Deflategate -- and it might have been worth it to him to dangle a few million and future promises to McDaniels to screw the Colts back for making the complaint that landed the Pats in the soup.. Deflategate cost the Pats the suspension of Brady, $1 million and a first round pick, not to mention all the bad press and legal bills.
And right on queue, Shefter just tweeted the following:
Text from one league source: “That’s Kraft putting it to the Colts again. He will forever try and (expletive) that place ever since deflate gate.”
That’s what I call petty!
Bill Polian was on this morning and said that the tension actually dates all the way back to Spygate
and probably back further, to the 2003 AFC Title game when Polian and Manning cried so much about the officiating that the rules were change to basically outlaw defense.
Look, who knows if he made the right decision but he has the right, until he puts his name on the contract, to do whatever he likes. It's hard to understand how a society that promotes free will etc and the ability to do what you want criticizes a guy for staying where he is.
No one knows his personal situation...maybe he decided he didn't want to pull his kids out of school, maybe they were settled there socially and his wife didn't want to move. There could be a myriad of reasons. I think the question should be more on Indy for focusing on just one guy.
Maybe so, but I know if I accepted a job with an employer, and then changed my mind, I would never bother sending that employer a resume again. McDaniel certainly has the right to d othis, but good luck finding another NFL job with any team not named the Pats.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
All reasonable things that an honorable person would have figured out BEFORE accepting the job and hiring staff.
It's unlikely a team will ever offer him a HC job again after seeing him screw the Colts (though teams do insane things), and even if they did, why would any assistants around the league trust him enough to agree to leave jobs to go work for him?
McDaniels is dead meat. And as he's always been an arrogant tool, he kind of deserves it. All he has left is to wait out Belichick’s retirement. Assuming Kraft will hand him the job.
That is the f'd up part ... he screwed over people that trusted him and made a changed based off him and his word ... He is not the stuff champions are made off. NE will fall back into the abyss of the NFL .... it is going to be hilarious!
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What he did was wrong on some levels, but I’m convinced he has been told he is the man to follow B.B. whenever he leaves. In the meantime, you make good money, you have an easy job for you, you don’t have the stress of an nfl coach, you might not even be a good head coach if you leave, and you pretty much are guaranteed a position here in NE if you stay.
Plus, maybe he has strong ties in the NE area that he doesn’t want to give up.
All reasonable things that an honorable person would have figured out BEFORE accepting the job and hiring staff.
Pretty much.
I'm dumbfounded as to how anyone could try to explain this in a positive light.
The Pats, Bill, and Kraft heading to the Superbowl had other priorities. Once the game was over, Kraft sought out Bill to find out his intentions. They met for 5-6 hours to discuss the future. Kraft then realized he didn't want to lose his in house young OC. So he made him an Offer that was too good to pass up. ( I'm thinking Brady may have been in his ear)
At that point, Kraft gets to screw the Colts and Irsay. He clears up the future with Bill. Looks like he coach for 1 more year. He provides his franchise a succession plan by keeping McDaniels in the fold. Oh, and there is a smile on Brady's face.
McDaniels can't say no. His wife and kids get to stay in NE. Where they have built a life loaded with friends and family. There is the certainty of working with an owner that you like and admire. A HOF head coach who approved of the plan. A GM who you know and respect. Plus a QB who's been one the best.
The issue was the timing of Kraft and Bill sitting down. It makes McDaniels look foolish, letting his assistants leave jobs, it embarrasses the Colts organization. And now his agent cut ties with him.
At the end of the day......a happy wife makes for a happy life. LOL
All of this. How is Irsay even being used as an argument. You know what he is. He didn't just figure it out weeks after having the job and signing his coaching staff. I can't see how other working adults can have this opinion.