“He was already looked at poorly when it came to stuff like this, but this is just horrible. He can’t be trusted. He has no character,’’ an NFL source told The Post. “This is a major thing.’’
Thanks for sharing. You’ve been pretty spot on through the process.
I didn’t mean to call you out, but I remember you being high on Wilks. I likely missed your Shurmur input.
No you're right I was. I remember someone asked me if I thought it was going to be Wilks, and I said yea I do. Immediately after I replied I regretted it because at that moment I tied my opinion to what I was hearing and the perception was misleading. Although I was much more clear in other posts.
And I see a lot of people saying "everything's fluid" and even though that can be partially true I'm not going to hide behind that.
whatever happened that Sunday where you and a few of the resident asshats were lead to believe it was going to be McDaniels.
Bad info or situation changed?
Multiple beats misread the situation. The belief at that time was Shurmur to AZ was likely, Patricia to DET was done, leaving McD as the next domino to fall to the next team teed up to hire a coach ... NYG. I was given the same info on the same day, later in the evening. It happens.
are you someone important Jon? Who gives you info? All these beat writers don’t know squat. They all were inaccurate until it was obvious Patricia was going to detroit and mcdaniels To Indy. Willing to bet Gettleman, Mara and Co. said, “let’s all leak a different favorite to the media so Gary, Ian, Dan and Ralph look clueless.
It's implied. If he backed out on the Colts, he probably would have backed out on the Giants.
I don't think this is true. It's possible, but unlikely. People are saying Kraft upped his salary to stick it to the Colts and got him to stay. There is no love loss between the Colts and Kraft/BB
I really don't doubt Kraft & BB wanted to stick it Â
Made a life changing decision we all do it at some points in our lives he only has to look into the mirror for judgement. He is not the first or last man to change his mind no ink on the dotted line so all bets are off. Saban left the Phins dirty move all claimed now how does that move look? He had a contract yet still walked away shit happens everyday in our lives.
RE: I really don't doubt Kraft & BB wanted to stick it Â
whatever happened that Sunday where you and a few of the resident asshats were lead to believe it was going to be McDaniels.
Bad info or situation changed?
Multiple beats misread the situation. The belief at that time was Shurmur to AZ was likely, Patricia to DET was done, leaving McD as the next domino to fall to the next team teed up to hire a coach ... NYG. I was given the same info on the same day, later in the evening. It happens.
are you someone important Jon? Who gives you info? All these beat writers don’t know squat. They all were inaccurate until it was obvious Patricia was going to detroit and mcdaniels To Indy. Willing to bet Gettleman, Mara and Co. said, “let’s all leak a different favorite to the media so Gary, Ian, Dan and Ralph look clueless.
Slow your roll, cowboy. I know a few people in the business, and no, they're not always on target as situations are fluid and often change by the minute.
One of the worst revelations in sports journalism is the advent of guess ya reporting.
Remember, hirings and firings of players, coaches and managers aren't much different in a sports organization than they are at your job. Things change, people have feelings, and people have choices.
Now think of who at your company goes blabbing about things before they're actually decided, and now think of what type of character it takes to go blab that outside of the company.
Two types of people; those with agendas and those who want attention. Not characteristics that scream credibility.
Now factor in every journalist needs a source to play the game of insider. And imagine the descending level of credibility some writers are tapping into.
There are trusted reporters who get scoops. By design they don't play in the cesspool because they have a rep and they get paid more for being credible.
But more than anything go back and think of the type of person who's giving up company secerets to reporters, or their friends or anyone really.
right or wrong, I think the reason the NFL has a moratorium on hiring coaches from other teams (to a higher position), is to not mess with the integrity of active playoff teams. If it becomes public knowledge that coach X on a playoff contending team is leaving, that can negatively influence how players respond to his leadership.
The rule intends to avoid this interference.
I think the only solution, is to either permit coaches hire at anytime, damn the consequences, or put a complete moratorium on any and all staff hiring until the super bowl is over. Fire em ok, but no hiring until after the big game.
Thoughts?
Very good point. My issue with the NFL is that everyone on the planet knows these guys are interviewing for next year. it’s already a distraction, so why keep it half way and potentially screw teams/coaches in the process.
I agree let everyone hire when they want or hold all interviews until after the SB.
I didn’t mean to call you out, but I remember you being high on Wilks. I likely missed your Shurmur input.
I didn’t mean to call you out, but I remember you being high on Wilks. I likely missed your Shurmur input.
No you're right I was. I remember someone asked me if I thought it was going to be Wilks, and I said yea I do. Immediately after I replied I regretted it because at that moment I tied my opinion to what I was hearing and the perception was misleading. Although I was much more clear in other posts.
And I see a lot of people saying "everything's fluid" and even though that can be partially true I'm not going to hide behind that.
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whatever happened that Sunday where you and a few of the resident asshats were lead to believe it was going to be McDaniels.
Bad info or situation changed?
Multiple beats misread the situation. The belief at that time was Shurmur to AZ was likely, Patricia to DET was done, leaving McD as the next domino to fall to the next team teed up to hire a coach ... NYG. I was given the same info on the same day, later in the evening. It happens.
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I must have missed it.
It's implied. If he backed out on the Colts, he probably would have backed out on the Giants.
I don't think this is true. It's possible, but unlikely. People are saying Kraft upped his salary to stick it to the Colts and got him to stay. There is no love loss between the Colts and Kraft/BB
I don't either. This is not an impactful situation.
Kraft seems to be OK, his problems with Parcell
to me, was caused by Parcell.
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whatever happened that Sunday where you and a few of the resident asshats were lead to believe it was going to be McDaniels.
Bad info or situation changed?
Multiple beats misread the situation. The belief at that time was Shurmur to AZ was likely, Patricia to DET was done, leaving McD as the next domino to fall to the next team teed up to hire a coach ... NYG. I was given the same info on the same day, later in the evening. It happens.
are you someone important Jon? Who gives you info? All these beat writers don’t know squat. They all were inaccurate until it was obvious Patricia was going to detroit and mcdaniels To Indy. Willing to bet Gettleman, Mara and Co. said, “let’s all leak a different favorite to the media so Gary, Ian, Dan and Ralph look clueless.
Slow your roll, cowboy. I know a few people in the business, and no, they're not always on target as situations are fluid and often change by the minute.
Remember, hirings and firings of players, coaches and managers aren't much different in a sports organization than they are at your job. Things change, people have feelings, and people have choices.
Now think of who at your company goes blabbing about things before they're actually decided, and now think of what type of character it takes to go blab that outside of the company.
Two types of people; those with agendas and those who want attention. Not characteristics that scream credibility.
Now factor in every journalist needs a source to play the game of insider. And imagine the descending level of credibility some writers are tapping into.
There are trusted reporters who get scoops. By design they don't play in the cesspool because they have a rep and they get paid more for being credible.
But more than anything go back and think of the type of person who's giving up company secerets to reporters, or their friends or anyone really.
Agendas or want attention.
The rule intends to avoid this interference.
I think the only solution, is to either permit coaches hire at anytime, damn the consequences, or put a complete moratorium on any and all staff hiring until the super bowl is over. Fire em ok, but no hiring until after the big game.
Thoughts?
Very good point. My issue with the NFL is that everyone on the planet knows these guys are interviewing for next year. it’s already a distraction, so why keep it half way and potentially screw teams/coaches in the process.
I agree let everyone hire when they want or hold all interviews until after the SB.