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NFT: NBA: Thomas/Frye to Lakers, Clarkson/Nance to Cavs

Beezer : 2/8/2018 12:12 pm
Here we go!
Cavs also sending their 2018 1st to LA.  
Beezer : 2/8/2018 12:14 pm : link
LA wins?
Blech. That sucks for the Celtics  
Bill L : 2/8/2018 12:17 pm : link
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Pretty good deal for both sides I guess.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 12:20 pm : link
Rough year from Thomas.
As a Lakers fan  
Rflairr : 2/8/2018 12:22 pm : link
I love this. Gets rid of Clarksonís Contract and get a first round pick. Not crazy about giving them Nance though.
Cleared the way for LBJ to join the Big Baller Brand  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 12:24 pm : link
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Clears $14M off the Lakers cap July 1  
JonC : 2/8/2018 12:25 pm : link
which puts them over $60M in cap space ... and no stars to spend it on via UFA.
Now if they can get someone to take Deng  
Rflairr : 2/8/2018 12:25 pm : link
Theyíll have room for 3 max contracts!!
RE: Clears $14M off the Lakers cap July 1  
Rflairr : 2/8/2018 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13826437 JonC said:
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which puts them over $60M in cap space ... and no stars to spend it on via UFA.


Blah, I donít believe for one sec. George is staying in OKC
Im not so sure George is staying.  
Keith : 2/8/2018 12:28 pm : link
Just recently he said that he loves the organization and playing with Russ, but he's going to do whats best for his family.
I don't want to spend $30M per  
JonC : 2/8/2018 12:29 pm : link
on PG.
Seems like CLE  
pjcas18 : 2/8/2018 12:31 pm : link
got fleeced in the Irving trade
like what my buddy did  
hitdog42 : 2/8/2018 12:31 pm : link
he was NEVER going to trade the BK pick.

got athleticism and bigger more nimble PG- nicely done.

RE: Seems like CLE  
Keith : 2/8/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13826450 pjcas18 said:
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got fleeced in the Irving trade


Are you factoring in that they may get the #1 pick in the draft??
now let's see if Maginka can flip  
JonC : 2/8/2018 12:33 pm : link
IT, the pick, and Deng for more cap space.
Thomas expects Lakers to buy him out.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 12:34 pm : link
He'll be coming off the bench for a contender in May/June.
Now Shelburne says they're keeping Thomas.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 12:35 pm : link
Sorry for jumping the gun there.
RE: RE: Seems like CLE  
pjcas18 : 2/8/2018 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13826453 Keith said:
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In comment 13826450 pjcas18 said:


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got fleeced in the Irving trade



Are you factoring in that they may get the #1 pick in the draft??


possibly, but net it out with their own pick they just sent to LA.

It comes down to Kyrie (+ Frye) and a 1st for Clarkson and Nance Crowder (who has been pretty bad), Zizic plus the Nets pick. I guess need to see where the Nets pick winds up.

I think the side getting Kyrie makes that trade again in a second. Maybe both sides do actually.
Clears the way for Kuzma and Randle to split PF minutes  
JonC : 2/8/2018 12:43 pm : link
Now, they can try to get Deng off the books but have flexibility to retain Randle.
Nets pick should be top 3 at least,  
Keith : 2/8/2018 12:43 pm : link
their own pick is late 20's.

Kyrie plus late 20's pick
for
Crowder, Clarkson, Nance and top 3 pick

Can't say they won the trade(although I thought they did at the time), but Kyrie made it impossible to get fair value. Not a bad trade for Cle considering.
Right now, it looks like the Nets are going to  
Bill L : 2/8/2018 12:49 pm : link
be 7th or 8th from the bottom
No, if the season ended today  
Keith : 2/8/2018 12:51 pm : link
they'd be around 7, but they are 1 game out of having the worst record.
RE: Blech. That sucks for the Celtics  
Rover : 2/8/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13826424 Bill L said:
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Why?
More I think about this Bill  
pjcas18 : 2/8/2018 12:57 pm : link
it's not bad for the Celtics. I can see the Lakers getting worse with this trade.

I still don't think their pick is 2 - 5 but I don't know they'll be better after it. Expect nothing from IT.

RE: RE: Seems like CLE  
Rover : 2/8/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13826453 Keith said:
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got fleeced in the Irving trade



Are you factoring in that they may get the #1 pick in the draft??

They have the Nets pick, which will be lucky to be a top 5.
Cavs  
Big Rick in FL : 2/8/2018 12:59 pm : link
Also just traded for Rodney Hood
and traded Wade  
YAJ2112 : 2/8/2018 1:10 pm : link
to Miami
kid makes deals!  
hitdog42 : 2/8/2018 1:12 pm : link
getting sh$t done.

stop b$tching now lebron and go play some defense.
Cavs  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 1:14 pm : link
Just picked up Clarkson, Nance, George Hill, Rodney Hood and Joe Johnson. Thatís pretty impressive for what they gave up.

Will they go all in and trade the BK pick for Deandre Jordan? Is Gasol available ?
Cavs roster looks so much better  
Eric on Li : 2/8/2018 1:16 pm : link
would love to see Lebron give GS another L in the finals. Not to mention the Celtics before that.
RE: Cavs  
YAJ2112 : 2/8/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13826523 TyreeHelmet said:
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Just picked up Clarkson, Nance, George Hill, Rodney Hood and Joe Johnson. Thatís pretty impressive for what they gave up.

Will they go all in and trade the BK pick for Deandre Jordan? Is Gasol available ?


Sacremento got Joe Johnson, not Cleveland. Crowder/Rose to Utah in that deal
I say no to trading the  
Keith : 2/8/2018 1:16 pm : link
Nets pick, nor should they.
they wont trade the bk pick  
hitdog42 : 2/8/2018 1:16 pm : link
that is why this is pretty impressive.
RE: Cavs  
TheMick7 : 2/8/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13826523 TyreeHelmet said:
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Just picked up Clarkson, Nance, George Hill, Rodney Hood and Joe Johnson. Thatís pretty impressive for what they gave up.

Will they go all in and trade the BK pick for Deandre Jordan? Is Gasol available ?


Johnson went to Sacramento
Hitdog  
Pete44 : 2/8/2018 1:17 pm : link
Your friend had an impressive afternoon.
love this exchange  
hitdog42 : 2/8/2018 1:24 pm : link

David Griffin
@dg_riff
As you know better than anyone, Bobby, perception and reality typically have a spurious connection at best. Koby Altman and the @cavs front office were never in over their heads, just handed a nearly untenable situation and have found a way to thrive in the adversity!

Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
So much for a novice GM in Koby Altman who is ďover his headĒ with this job.
RE: I say no to trading the  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13826528 Keith said:
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Nets pick, nor should they.


What your friend has done is impressive, but Iíd roll the dice if you can get Jordan or Gasol while dumping Thompson. The nets have zero reason to tank and that pick could easily be 8-10th. How are the Knicks feeling with the current 8th overall pick?

You only have so many years left of Lebron. Still the best player in the world. Maximize your chance at a title.
I take lunch  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 1:27 pm : link
& all hell breaks loose.

Wade back to Miami? Thomas a Laker? Crowder & Rose to Sactown? Hill, Nance, Hood, & Clarkson all headed to Cleveland?
Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 1:27 pm : link
Love how the Knicks are standing pat...Lol knicks.
WTF IS GOING ON?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 1:29 pm : link
I'm still processing LBJ's best friend being sent back to Miami.

JFC. Cleveland just totally revamped their roster in like 30 minutes. These guys are going to need a night out to introduce themselves to one another.
RE: they wont trade the bk pick  
Pete44 : 2/8/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13826529 hitdog42 said:
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that is why this is pretty impressive.


I just heard the Cavs are not done, that pick could be in play for the right player, trying to coerce Memphis possibly.
Cavs basically the only team willing to take on contracts  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 1:45 pm : link
which is why they're getting the better players.
Cavs got better  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2018 1:47 pm : link
and held onto the Brooklyn pick.

It couldn't continue the way it was going, the situation was untenable.

Pretty impressive by Altman. They still likely don't beat GS but they should probably be the favorites against Boston again.
RE: Cavs got better  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13826593 Kyle in NY said:
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and held onto the Brooklyn pick.

It couldn't continue the way it was going, the situation was untenable.

Pretty impressive by Altman. They still likely don't beat GS but they should probably be the favorites against Boston again.


Kyle, agree re. the situation being untenable. If they didn't make some serious moves, I doubt they'd even make ECF.

I'm curious if Celts make a move, specifically for Evans.
2018-2019 Lakers  
est1986 : 2/8/2018 1:53 pm : link
Lonzo Ball, PG13, Bron Bron, Kuzma, Ingram

And they will have plenty of cap to build a great bench and the option to keep Julius Randle if they wanted too.
Yeah Rodney Hood is a legitimate player  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2018 1:54 pm : link
Clarkson is solid too and the Lakers really liked Larry Nance and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective.

They got more athletic, added shooting, and improved their defense. And seemingly improved the locker room.

They've got a chance now.
RE: 2018-2019 Lakers  
MookGiants : 2/8/2018 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13826608 est1986 said:
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Lonzo Ball, PG13, Bron Bron, Kuzma, Ingram

And they will have plenty of cap to build a great bench and the option to keep Julius Randle if they wanted too.


That team doesnt win even one game against the Warriors
I don't buy the Lebron-to-LA stuff at all.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:02 pm : link
He's entering the final stage of his career and he wants rings. He may not get any with Golden State still dominating, but Lebron, Harden and Paul could give them a run for their money.
LeBron would be an idiot if he went to the West.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 2:02 pm : link
Stay in the East. The path is much easier.
I donít know about Lebron  
Rflairr : 2/8/2018 2:04 pm : link
But I think theyíre going to get George
Not so sure if George ends up in LA.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
He's starting to sound like he's really comfortable in OKC.
The afternoon drive show on WFAN  
Chris684 : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
Maggie Gray and Bart Scott have both said that the Cavs had to part with the Brooklyn pick.

Did they or didnt they trade that pick?
RE: I don't buy the Lebron-to-LA stuff at all.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13826625 bceagle05 said:
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He's entering the final stage of his career and he wants rings. He may not get any with Golden State still dominating, but Lebron, Harden and Paul could give them a run for their money.


Exactly. He hasn't made a single move in his career that would make anyone think rings aren't a priority.
Carlin just corrected  
Chris684 : 2/8/2018 2:15 pm : link
Gray and Bart Scott for spewing false info.

Should have known. Show is terrible.
RE: The afternoon drive show on WFAN  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13826648 Chris684 said:
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Maggie Gray and Bart Scott have both said that the Cavs had to part with the Brooklyn pick.

Did they or didnt they trade that pick?


No Brooklyn pick.

Listening to these 3 clowns talk NBA is embarrassing. Here some gems from listening last 10 mins

- Bart Scott wondering why no one wants Isiah Thomas...
- Maggie Gray complimenting Masai Ujiri on the Denver trade. Masaii hasnít worked in Denver in years...
- Maggie Gray complimenting the Cavs on moving the BK pick for Clarkson/ Nance because they are under 25. Didnít move the BK pick though...

There was more too. How are these 3 the best WFAN could find? They donít even have basic NBA knowledge.
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Just wait until the spring and summer  
moespree : 2/8/2018 2:22 pm : link
Bart Scott is on record as saying he knows nothing about baseball and can only name like 5 guys.
RE: Just wait until the spring and summer  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13826741 moespree said:
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Bart Scott is on record as saying he knows nothing about baseball and can only name like 5 guys.


Not sure it can get any worse but it will. I love how he claimed he was a big NBA. Just listening to him speak for the last 10 minutes I can tell he doesnít watch the nba.

The Fan should have just paid Mike whatever he wanted. This show is a complete disaster.
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