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Bill2 : 2/14/2018 9:54 am : link

At a news conference later Wednesday evening, White said he didnít know he had dropped the flag and apologized.

ďHonestly, if there was anything Ö I didnít mean any disrespect,Ē White said. ďThe flag thatís flying up on my house right now is definitely really high up there. Sorry about that. Iím really proud to represent Team USA.Ē
I deleted my thread.  
superspynyg : 2/14/2018 10:40 am : link
I really find these all encompassing threads hard to follow as they can switch topics so easily from sport to sport.

but its here so..

Our hockey team sucks ass!!! At least the Russians lost as well
RE: Just not a lot of  
lax counsel : 2/14/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 13831962 pjcas18 said:
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talent IMO. A lot of bad hockey.

the women's games are fundamentally better.


Hockey was my favorite Olympic sport with NHL players. I read an article of a potential Team USA with NHL players and by all accounts they would have been right there with Team Canada competing for the gold. This current version of Olympic hockey looks like a bad amateur competition. I do not even believe the US sent its best amateur players this year. So no interest really.

I also saw Russia lost, so there's that.
If the NHL would have participated in the Olympics  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 11:06 am : link
it may have been the best display of hockey talent since the 1996 world cup.

I wasn't around/aware for most of the 70's but I cannot imagine a more talented NHL than what we're currently seeing.

And while the Canadian dominance still strong (they'd be heavy favorites), Canadians only make up 46% of the NHL, where it used to be in the 70% range. USA is second with 27%. Sweden 3rd around 10%.
occasionally when taking down/putting up the flag  
GiantsLaw : 2/14/2018 11:58 am : link
it has slipped and touched the ground. It was a mistake and I meant no disrespect. I apologize to anyone I might have offended and said 10 Pledge of Allegiances as penance.
just saw the Shaun White run  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/14/2018 12:57 pm : link
it's unreal how much air he (and Chloe Kim) get relative to the other best snowboarders in the world. Awesome to watch.
Glad to see  
Gregorio : 2/14/2018 1:44 pm : link
American Emily Sweeney walking after her luge crash. Anyone catch that? Sliding down an ice tube at 68mph, on one hand looks thrilling but on the other, scary as hell.
RE: Glad to see  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13832329 Gregorio said:
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American Emily Sweeney walking after her luge crash. Anyone catch that? Sliding down an ice tube at 68mph, on one hand looks thrilling but on the other, scary as hell.


Yes, and it made we wonder how people found out they were good at this.


It also reminded me quickly of the guy who died in Vancouver, that was luge wasn't it? I think he went off the track and of course it was on video.
RE: did anyone just watch the USA hockey game?  
Percy : 2/14/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13831939 Jints in Carolina said:
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Yes. Disappointing.
Curling  
AcidTest : 2/14/2018 3:36 pm : link
is back on again.
Looking forward to the US Women's game tonight  
Jints in Carolina : 2/14/2018 7:03 pm : link
Thurs., Feb. 15
U.S. Women vs. Canada Preliminary
10:10 p.m. (Feb. 14)
USA hockey  
Knineteen : 2/15/2018 7:00 pm : link
embarrassing.

The majority of these Canadian women play hockey in the USA. Could we maybe leverage the USA hockey framework and get the gold for once?

The men; forget it.
Trying to find Slovenia on the map...

Props to NBC for trying to spotlight Chris Bourque as something other than an aging minor-league journeyman. The son of Ray Bourque? Here comes the gold!
USA Women have beaten  
pjcas18 : 2/15/2018 10:38 pm : link
Canada for the Gold the past four hockey world cups - not sure we need to copy anything from the Canadian model.

it's just been the Olympics that have been a problem.

I still expect USA vs Canada in the women's final.

the men is just not interesting. Not even like a young team of hungry college kids, it's a bunch of has-beens (Gionta), journeymen, and just minor league hockey players.

not even interesting. for any teams (it's not just the US).

What's more embarrassing....  
Knineteen : 2/16/2018 12:19 am : link
they aren't even televising the USA vs. Slovakia game?!

NBC and NBCSN are showing the same men's figure skating program?!!? NBCSN is showing the live competition. NBC is showing the same competition but on tape delay.

WTF is going on here?
The..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/16/2018 8:08 am : link
USA vs. Slovakia game was on last night.I think they put it on cNBC or USA. I was watching it.
TV schedule is here  
NYerInMA : 2/16/2018 10:51 pm : link
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TV listings - ( New Window )
Early tomorrow  
Pete in MD : 2/16/2018 11:03 pm : link
morning (7am EST) is another Olympic hockey showdown between Team USA and The Soviet Uni...er Russ...uh Team OAR. It should be "A Crazy Game of Hockey."
And in Men's  
Pete in MD : 2/16/2018 11:09 pm : link
figure skating right now, American Nathan Chen, who screwed up in the short program and came in at 17th, landed six quad jumps in the long program to make a huge comeback. Apparently, no one has ever even attempted more than five. If a few of the favorites screw up he could win a medal.
Nothing crazy about that game  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 9:32 am : link
US could not deal with the OAR speed, and is just not a good team. Datsyuk and Kovalchuk with some has-beens could have won. US all but eliminated now. Win or go in.

US goalie stinks too.

Most Hockey East college teams could beat them I think and some of the ECAC teams too.
Should be win or  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 9:33 am : link
go home
You can't both be...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 3:31 pm : link
"all but eliminated" and also win or go home. Every team is in the same boat. Their next loss will send them out.

Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.
RE: You can't both be...  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13835290 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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"all but eliminated" and also win or go home. Every team is in the same boat. Their next loss will send them out.

Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.


except the teams that finished in the top 2 of their 4 team brackets. The US finished behind Slovenia. Slovenia.

they're in the playoff round, the top 4 get byes. they need to win to get into the quarterfinals.

they're done.

worst US Olympic team ever all things considered IMO.

the 2006 team I think had the worst finish, 8th place (and one of the 90's teams, maybe 1994 before pros went - but a good friend of mine was on that team so I give them a pass), but consider Brian Gionta was on that team in 2006. He's on this one too, LOL - and he wasn't young then.

Well, at least 2018-2019 NY Ranger top liner  
MetsAreBack : 2/17/2018 3:59 pm : link
Kovulchuk scored 2 today.
You guys..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 5:26 pm : link
are acting like the US team was expected to be gold medalists. Most didn't even project them to medal.

RE: You guys..  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13835337 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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are acting like the US team was expected to be gold medalists. Most didn't even project them to medal.


I didn't expect anything. I predicted before the Olympics started that the US would be awful. And the whole men's bracket would be awful. Outside of some spurts there just isn't inspired hockey being played. It's like Men's league with a few ringers.

Still doesn't mean I can't call them out for being awful.

and while I didn't expect the US to be in contention, I didn't expect them to lose to Slovenia either or get beaten out in their bracket by Slovenia.

I would have rather the US built a team of all college kids if NHL players weren't competing.

this team is just unlikable outside of Greenway and normally I'd like Donato but he's a future Bruin.
They're unlikeable??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 8:54 pm : link
Why because they are losing?

It isn't like they are showboating or embarrassing the country with antics or something.

It is pretty much a bunch of third tier players
Maybe unlikable is the wrong word  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 10:09 pm : link
it's just not a group of players that inspire me with their play and I'm not looking for another miracle on ice, the USA has had plenty of olympic teams between 1980 and Nagano (when pros started playing) that didn't win, but still inspired.

The team is built on mostly journeymen, it's I believe the oldest Olympic hockey team the US has ever had. and personally, I'd prefer they built the team with kids that had some upside or at least a future in hockey instead of primarily journeymen.

there is nothing inspiring (to me) to watch this US team. I've already said it previously the only players I see a lot of emotion/intensity from are Greenway and Donato (two of the three or four college kids on the team).

I'd rather see the US junior team from the World Cup this past January play here, I bet they'd do better.
Us women show up  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2018 9:03 am : link
of course though those are the best women's hockey players on the planet (collectively, not just USA) unlike the Men.

US women to the gold medal game after crushing Finland 5 - 0 , 10:45 pm on Wednesday. They play the winner of Canada vs Russia on now (Canada cruising 4 - 0).

This will be the third consecutive Olympics where the USA and Canada women have played for the gold, with Canada winning the first 2 (while the USA has beaten Canada for the gold in the last three world cups).

So far that game is the most interesting thing of the Olympics for me.

Men play a rematch with Slovakia tonight at 10:10 to try and advance to the medal round. If USA wins they play the Czech republic tomorrow night same time. If they lose I believe it will be the worst ever Olympic finish for the men.
Breaking News...  
BamaBlue : 2/19/2018 10:42 am : link
Russians cheat! No not the special counsel's report, the Russians cheating in (of all things) Curling!?

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Aleksandr Krushelnitckii, who won a bronze medal in mixed doubles Curling last week, has tested positive for a high dose of meldonium.


Further proof that you can't enhance Curlers. The sport was created for impaired people.
US playing really well  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2018 11:04 pm : link
in this game, wouldn't be in this spot if they'd played like this against Slovenia.

Just 1 - 0 and the Slovaks ran the US goalie (not violently, but it injured the goalie) and a different guy on the same play cheap-shotted Donato (who has the US goal) with an elbow to the face.

US to go on a 5 - 3 PP, but maybe without their starting goalie in net.
Finally a solid effort  
pjcas18 : 2/20/2018 8:56 am : link
from the US. Only thing bitter about this one is Ryan Donato is establishing himself as a bona fide NHL prospect, and he's a Boston Bruin draftee.

He was already a decent prospect, I mean he's 4th in the NCAA in goals, but man he's showing he's a complete player in this Olympics (albeit against competition that is slightly worse than he sees regularly even in the ECAC).

USA plays the Czech's tonight with the winner having the pleasure of a rematch vs OAR.
Hockey and More  
Percy : 2/20/2018 11:14 am : link
Glad to see the U.S. men win last night and look forward to the Czeck game tonight. Womens hockey has been great, too. Was impressed by the pairs ice dancing contest -- thought the fourth place U.S. pair was fantastic as well as the medalists, who were even better. Want to see Vonn win the downhill today and very, very sorry the schedule has been so collapsed by weather issues that Schiffrin had to pull out to concentrate on the combined. NBC has made it hard to follow everything properly. Olympics channel helps, but not much.
One of the most putrid shootouts I've seen.  
Mr. Bungle : 2/21/2018 12:50 am : link
Ugly stuff.
Men's Curling..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 7:48 am : link
team is on to the medal round, with the only enhancements being from Budweiser!!
Curling in the Winter Olympics...  
BamaBlue : 2/21/2018 7:49 am : link
Tiddlywinks in the Summer Games?
RE: Curling in the Winter Olympics...  
Pete in 'Vliet : 2/21/2018 8:06 am : link
In comment 13837745 BamaBlue said:
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Tiddlywinks in the Summer Games?


I would watch that. I bet the Chinese are amazing at Tiddlywinks.
USA vs Canada women  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2018 9:29 am : link
for the gold tonight. can't wait for these Olympics to end.
Germany in the men's semis  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2018 9:35 am : link
after knocking off Sweden.

Canada vs Germany, Czechs vs OAR.

honestly don't care.

If anything I'm rooting for OAR, I like watching Datsyuk and Kovalchuk

I guess I'll hope for a Germany vs OAR final.
Let's GO Ladies... REDEMPTION!!!  
Run with 81 : 2/21/2018 11:10 pm : link
Go out there and take the Gold you've worked so long and hard for. Chillax & play your game. Bring home the gold girls!!!
Need a big game from Knight and a brick wall from Rooney!!!

USA... USA... USA!!!
My buddyís nephew took the silver  
Section331 : 2/22/2018 12:20 am : link
in the menís free ski halfpipe. Pretty cool, and he was so close to gold!
USA!!!  
Run with 81 : 2/22/2018 2:17 am : link
USA!!!
Women's Free Skate  
Percy : 2/23/2018 9:10 am : link
Zagitova/Medvedeva: how many of the judges had ever read Anna Karenina and understood the theme underlying Medvedeva's performance? Not enough, I suspect. Audience reaction -- rejection of judges' final score for her -- was right on, IMHO. Could understandably have awarded golds to both and should have.
So Germany knocks  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2018 12:48 pm : link
off Canada and the OAR beat the Czech's (another shutout) setting up a Germany vs OAR Gold Medal game.

What were the odds?

I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.

Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.
RE: So Germany knocks  
figgy2989 : 2/23/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13840385 pjcas18 said:
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off Canada and the OAR beat the Czech's (another shutout) setting up a Germany vs OAR Gold Medal game.

What were the odds?

I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.

Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.


Hopefully Bettman realizes how much he screwed up here and the NHL players are back in 2022. The Winter Olympics just isnít the same. In Sochi I remember wanting to watch every game, because most rosters had at least a few NHLers. Shit, I was watching the Norway games because of Zucc. This year, not so much. Aside from a few US games, I had no interest.
Originally I was flat out against Bettman here  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2018 1:07 pm : link
but he has some points and it's not him, it's the owners who decided this.

The biggest point for me was that the NHL is prohibited from using Olympic footage in their marketing.

For example, Crosby's Gold Medal game winner in Vancouver, while it was a garbage goal, was enormous in the moment and the NHL cannot use it to further their sport.

So when people say the NHL misses out on the best marketing event for their sport, I'm not sure I agree.

The best case for the NHL would be for Ice Hockey to be a summer olympic sport. I know this seems contradictory but it's played indoors, rinks have ice all summer and it wouldn't mess with the NHL season and force them to take two weeks off during their season and extend it farther out.

There's no doubt the hockey suffers in the Olympics, but at least I get the NHL perspective and I find it sort of hard to completely fault them.
How's this for irony?  
Bill L : 2/23/2018 4:28 pm : link

Link - ( New Window )
U.S. Men's Gold Medal Curling match  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/23/2018 11:23 pm : link
VS. Sweden starts in about 2 and a half hours, Sat 1:35 am EST. Sweden has been playing lights out this tournament. It will most likely take a near flawless game from John Shuster and the American men to bring home the gold. But after the huge semi-final win over Canada it feels like we are playing with house money tonight. This will be the match of these men's lives, I really hope they leave it all on the ice. Let's go boys!
I was hoping..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/23/2018 11:25 pm : link
it would be a little bit later. I like getting up at 5:30 and seeing the matches.
I know.  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/23/2018 11:38 pm : link
I feel like I just recovered from being up late for the women's hockey game. I may take a quick nap and set an alarm. Can't miss this one.
USA steals a point in the 4th end.  
3-2 score, US on top. Could this be the Mira-curl on Ice?
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